Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Lee270744 said: Brodie, can you answer my question on the McCormick v Ottley thread, please? You'll be waiting a long time Lee. He is busy counting his millions!!!!! see his post above. Besides he does not like to see real facts that put his generalizations under scrutiny Lee270744 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 another minor stat All-Stars Stakes this season= 2,569,367 The next 16 trainers out of 370 odd =5,086,367 in stakes won this season. Whos fault is it the geniuses have not told the 370 licensed trainers they cant win? Fartoomuch 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted March 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said: You'll be waiting a long time Lee. He is busy counting his millions!!!!! see his post above. Besides he does not like to see real facts that put his generalizations under scrutiny Fart Too Much. Dont need to count my millions as they are invested and giving me good returns, that is how I am able to waste so much time on here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted March 19, 2018 48 minutes ago, MisterEd said: Well in my opinion that is the business model the All Stars use. So unless someone is prepared to match it they will always have an advantage. It is disappointing to see so many Purdon detractors on here. Quite frankly I am in awe of their operation and I do own a couple so not part of your every owner, trainer, punter group you keep mentioning on here. Ed, Yes there are a few of the same Allstar fan club that post on here but I guarantee that there would be a helluva lot more in the industry that aren’t keen on what is happening And no I am not going to name names. That is pointless! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, MisterEd said: Well in my opinion that is the business model the All Stars use. So unless someone is prepared to match it they will always have an advantage. It is disappointing to see so many Purdon detractors on here. Quite frankly I am in awe of their operation and I do own a couple so not part of your every owner, trainer, punter group you keep mentioning on here. Far from my post being a critizism of the Purdons , they just are not part of the equation in our world generally speaking. So I always look forward to the day we have a horse or horses that end up running against them. We do alright despite them ,and as those stats point out plenty of stake money is being shared around. Our horse now flys the flag for NZ in Aussie and leaves a gap here for someone else's horses to fill who may have missed out through ballots etc. Fartoomuch 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted March 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, globederby12 said: Far from my post being a critizism of the Purdons , they just are not part of the equation in our world generally speaking. So I always look forward to the day we have a horse or horses that end up running against them. We do alright despite them ,and as those stats point out plenty of stake money is being shared around. Our horse now flys the flag for NZ in Aussie and leaves a gap here for someone else's horses to fill who may have missed out through ballots etc. Globe, I am telling you now that the owners and trainers in Canterbury do not look forward to having their horse or horses racing against the Blue Army! Why on earth would you want to take them on knowing that 3rd is the best you are going to be????? Yes there is money available for other horses but bugger all in group races or larger stakes races!!! If this plundering of the larger stakes races continues in the coming years there is going to be a dramatic drop off in owners and trainers numbers! The supporters can yahoo and go off as much as they like about the AllStars horses cleaning up all the big races, but the reality is that there is an ever increasing number that are getting the stitch and will not continue to own horses as individuals! The Australians are also pretty pissed off with the same scenario of plundering their stakes by an overseas raider who contributes next to nothing to their harness industry! PS your horse Father Xmas was also not racing against the All Stars Horses and yet you had to export it to Oz where you can’t even watch it oncourse! Why on earth would you continue When the returns are pitiful?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Fart Too Much. Dont need to count my millions as they are invested and giving me good returns, that is how I am able to waste so much time on here! You got the waste bit right as nothing constructive coming from you of late that i can see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booby Bec 84 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 I disagree!!! The Purdon, Rasmussen is incredible and the Brodster is right on the mark. The reality is most other good stables like the Dunns, Dalgety, the Butts, McGrath etc have good horses too however their best horses are the equavilalent to Purdon's C graders. The thing I find incredible about the way their team race is their incredibly high cruising speed, They are pretty much driven like cars but just keep rolling. Anyone know how they are making everyone else look mediocre? (Please don't tell me it's because they work harder than anyone else) maple h 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Globe, I am telling you now that the owners and trainers in Canterbury do not look forward to having their horse or horses racing against the Blue Army! Why on earth would you want to take them on knowing that 3rd is the best you are going to be????? Yes there is money available for other horses but bugger all in group races or larger stakes races!!! If this plundering of the larger stakes races continues in the coming years there is going to be a dramatic drop off in owners and trainers numbers! The supporters can yahoo and go off as much as they like about the AllStars horses cleaning up all the big races, but the reality is that there is an ever increasing number that are getting the stitch and will not continue to own horses as individuals! The Australians are also pretty pissed off with the same scenario of plundering their stakes by an overseas raider who contributes next to nothing to their harness industry! PS your horse Father Xmas was also not racing against the All Stars Horses and yet you had to export it to Oz where you can’t even watch it oncourse! Why on earth would you continue When the returns are pitiful?? Say what ?????? When did this come in ? They used to pack em in like sardines back in the good old days at Harold Park. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Globe, I am telling you now that the owners and trainers in Canterbury do not look forward to having their horse or horses racing against the Blue Army! Why on earth would you want to take them on knowing that 3rd is the best you are going to be????? Yes there is money available for other horses but bugger all in group races or larger stakes races!!! If this plundering of the larger stakes races continues in the coming years there is going to be a dramatic drop off in owners and trainers numbers! The supporters can yahoo and go off as much as they like about the AllStars horses cleaning up all the big races, but the reality is that there is an ever increasing number that are getting the stitch and will not continue to own horses as individuals! The Australians are also pretty pissed off with the same scenario of plundering their stakes by an overseas raider who contributes next to nothing to their harness industry! PS your horse Father Xmas was also not racing against the All Stars Horses and yet you had to export it to Oz where you can’t even watch it oncourse! Why on earth would you continue When the returns are pitiful?? Talked to Phil or Nathan Williamson of late with that comment. You are a fuck wit straight up Iraklis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R 260 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 Having raced against the Allstars for many years, I can share with you, for me, I have never been envious of their horses, but respect them in the manner which they deserve. Of course, they are good, and very good, some of them, but this is a wonderful sport, and many variables can come into the final result. Up until this year they would have had a conservative 40 yearlings to have broken in, and choose the best potential, and hence their wonderful results in the 2 and 3 year old races. I read, that this year, the number of yearlings will be around 20. It might, and I say might, mean that they will not have so much domination of the younger races in the future. Time will tell. Cheers. Robert. Iraklis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Globe, I am telling you now that the owners and trainers in Canterbury do not look forward to having their horse or horses racing against the Blue Army! Why on earth would you want to take them on knowing that 3rd is the best you are going to be????? Yes there is money available for other horses but bugger all in group races or larger stakes races!!! If this plundering of the larger stakes races continues in the coming years there is going to be a dramatic drop off in owners and trainers numbers! The supporters can yahoo and go off as much as they like about the AllStars horses cleaning up all the big races, but the reality is that there is an ever increasing number that are getting the stitch and will not continue to own horses as individuals! The Australians are also pretty pissed off with the same scenario of plundering their stakes by an overseas raider who contributes next to nothing to their harness industry! PS your horse Father Xmas was also not racing against the All Stars Horses and yet you had to export it to Oz where you can’t even watch it oncourse! Why on earth would you continue When the returns are pitiful?? Brodie, I gave you credit for having a few clues but that is the greatest load of crap any human could write and you know it, you must be filthy on anyone that can be good at there game. You have tried every angle to besmirch the All-Stars stable you obviously have a gigantic problem and getting on here with all your innuendo about them doping there horses I think you need a lot of help. Do you think they don't swab the All-Stars? You should go to bed with a mirror and wake up to yourself. Spikecity, chelseacol, Thejanitor and 2 others 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Brodie said: Ed, Yes there are a few of the same Allstar fan club that post on here but I guarantee that there would be a helluva lot more in the industry that aren’t keen on what is happening And no I am not going to name names. That is pointless! can you explain this guarantee a bit better please Iraklis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 I would not mind betting Brodie belongs to SAFE and is a Vegan. These people always want to stop racing just listen to the rhetoric. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted March 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, Kotare_Hunter said: Say what ?????? When did this come in ? They used to pack em in like sardines back in the good old days at Harold Park. KH, you misunderstood. The point being most people race horses like to see them race on course rather than race them hours away by plane!! ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted March 19, 2018 29 minutes ago, globederby12 said: Talked to Phil or Nathan Williamson of late with that comment. You are a fuck wit straight up Globe, I will take the ef wit to heart, very upsetting, however which comment were you referring to specifically that struck a nerve??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted March 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, Lee270744 said: Brodie, I gave you credit for having a few clues but that is the greatest load of crap any human could write and you know it, you must be filthy on anyone that can be good at there game. You have tried every angle to besmirch the All-Stars stable you obviously have a gigantic problem and getting on here with all your innuendo about them doping there horses I think you need a lot of help. Do you think they don't swab the All-Stars? You should go to bed with a mirror and wake up to yourself. Lee, not a load of crap at all, and your head is in the sand. Innuendos are what you make of them Lee, obviously you are reading things into what I write aren’t you? They swab all trainers horses I would say! When have I actually ever accused them of anything? Someone owned up to using Blue Magic Without actually ever having returned a positive swab someone has stated, Lee! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted March 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, Lee270744 said: I would not mind betting Brodie belongs to SAFE and is a Vegan. These people always want to stop racing just listen to the rhetoric. Lee Lee Lee, quite the opposite and you lose your bet! My opinion on the whip use would confirm that Lee! Vegan, hardly, and why would I want racing to stop, when that is what I enjoy and wager on!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 Am I the one in the black? Iraklis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R 260 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, Brodie said: KH, you misunderstood. The point being most people race horses like to see them race on course rather than race them hours away by plane!! ! Hi Brodie, Yes, many people do like to see their horses race on course, but some of these same people do not live in the area where their horses are trained and race. Without any evidence to back my next statement, I reckon more than 50% of owners do not live in the area that their horse is trained or race in. Sometimes a plane trip between our islands or Australia is the only option to see them race. I find it a great opportunity for a change of scenery and a re-energizing of my body and mind, regardless of the result. Cheers. Robert. Iraklis and Fartoomuch 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, globederby12 said: Talked to Phil or Nathan Williamson of late with that comment. You are a fuck wit straight up Globe the last bit about the pitiful returns was not aimed at you. I put the Ps before the last bit which was meant to be above. That is if there is pitiful returns why would you continue? The returns in Oz will be great for you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maple h 26 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Lee270744 said: Brodie, I gave you credit for having a few clues but that is the greatest load of crap any human could write and you know it, you must be filthy on anyone that can be good at there game. You have tried every angle to besmirch the All-Stars stable you obviously have a gigantic problem and getting on here with all your innuendo about them doping there horses I think you need a lot of help. Do you think they don't swab the All-Stars? You should go to bed with a mirror and wake up to yourself. And didn't Lance Armstrong get tested a lot and always pass! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted March 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Double R said: Hi Brodie, Yes, many people do like to see their horses race on course, but some of these same people do not live in the area where their horses are trained and race. Without any evidence to back my next statement, I reckon more than 50% of owners do not live in the area that their horse is trained or race in. Sometimes a plane trip between our islands or Australia is the only option to see them race. I find it a great opportunity for a change of scenery and a re-energizing of my body and mind, regardless of the result. Cheers. Robert. Fair enough Robert! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, maple h said: And didn't Lance Armstrong get tested a lot and always pass! Did you realize they both have 2 wheels under them you wouldn't have guessed that? Iraklis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 Am i correct in saying you Maple h Peter p HTP and FU are related? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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