Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 ROUND 7 Race 10 - Randwick R8 1st - 9 Sugar Bella W-$2.20 2nd - 12 Miss Que Q-$12.80 Scr: nil 2 AD AUGUSTA* (4th) $662.80 1 (x 2 Joker play) = 2 points 3 THE DARK HORSES (2nd) $637.60 2 points The AAs needed Miss Que or Ravi to win to salvage the match and they gave them a great sight but had to settle for 2nd & 4th. Dark Horses Captain Rosina was the Match Star and scored a BB in the last with team mates Sarah and Skelly also notching wins. The Ad Augustas all scored in the last with Tom and MVP Casper adding BBs while Wrinkles finally got on the board with a quinella. It was just as well as the AAs snared a bonus point for a higher aggregate which turned into 2 with their Joker Play. 178.60 Catalano 205.60 Sarah 47.60 Wrinkles 90.00 Skelly 65.00 Tom 0.00 Korio 152.00 Howie 321.00 Rosina 219.60 Casper 21.00 Moose 4 BETZA GRAND (6th) $891.20 3 points 1 FIVE NO TRUMPS (1st) $741.60 0 points The Five No Trumps could have stolen it in the last with Ravi's late surge on the rail but 4th was his lot so the Betzas held on for a much-needed win. Ian was the only scorer for the FNTs in the last but lost out to his opponent Dave (who also tipped the winning fave) on a countback with Dave's Perizada (3rd) just edging Ian's Ravi (4th). Betty, Robert (with a BB) and Betzas' MVP PJ (with a nice BB quinella) were the final scorers for the Grand. Redrum put up a good tally to take Man of the Match honours. The Betzas took a bonus point for the 4-1 margin. 240.20 PJ 129.00 Steve 207.00 Robert 150.00 Ray 216.00 Betty 385.60 Redrum 206.00 Graeme 55.00 Rob 22.00 Dave (on countback 3rd vs 4th) 22.00 Ian 4 THE RUBIKS (7th) $1996.80 4 points 1 MAINLY DOLLARZ (3rd) $1285.40 0 points The Dollarz needed roughie Conchita in the last but she never yelped so the Rubiks prevailed due in no small part to Man of the Match Roland's astonishing best bet selection of 50/1 shot Harlem in the Australian Cup. Everyone bar Jill and Roland labelled the winning fave in the last while Hesi and Kloppit added BBs. Brian, who looked set for the day's leading scorer until Sir C struck, was Dollarz MVP. THe Rubiks added bonus points for the team profit and a 4-1 scoreline achieved when Hesi slipped past Richie in the last. 197.00 Cubes 68.60 Jack 223.00 Kloppite 145.00 Jill 152.60 Hesi 134.80 Richie 1267.00 Roland 588.00 Brian 157.20 Geoff 329.00 The Crucible 3 THE ROYLE FAMILY* (5th) $628.80 2 (x 2 Joker play) = 4 points 2 LAY DOWN MISERE (8th) $496.60 0 points Despite John winning his previously scoreless match with Jen with a BB, the Miseres were unable to peg back the Joker-playing Royle Family who turned two points for a win into 4 in what was a fairly uninspiring contest. The LDTs other scorers in the last were MVP Steve P (with a BB also) and Tony. The victors final collects came from a BB quinella from Sharne and best bet wins for Captain Pete and Match Star Heather. Steve P nailed Pam in the last but this was cancelled out by Sharne finally getting on the board and ahead of Rees ! No bonus points were earned. 132.60 Pam 168.00 Steve P 95.20 Sharne 68.00 Rees 228.00 Heather 141.00 Gordy 0.00 Jen 44.00 John 173.00 Pete 75.60 Tony Sir Castleton 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 The Table after ROUND 7 1st 13 The Dark Horses $7327.80 2nd 13 The Royle Family $6780.80 3rd 12 The Rubiks $8282.40 4th 11 Five No Trumps $7786.80 5th 11 Betza Grand $7547.40 6th 11 Ad Augusta $7221.80 7th 9 Mainly Dollarz $8119.80 8th 6 Lay Down Misere $6777.20 Defeat for The Five No Trumps proved costly today as they slipped 3 places down to 4th from the top of the ladder. The Dark Horses took their place moving up from 2nd to take the lead again after defeating the Ad Augusta who lost 2 places despite picking up 2 points from their Joker play. The Royle family made good use of their Joker with a win over the cellar dwellers Lay Down Misere elevating them 3 spots to 2nd place. The day's biggest movers though were the irrepressible Rubiks fuelled by an amazing score from Roland they climbed 4 places to now sit 3rd.The Betza Grands improved one place with their win but the Mainly Dollarz took a big hit dropping 4 places in defeat. Seven more rounds of Round Robin play remain with each team issued a fresh Joker for judicious use.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 STATS Best Scores1267.00 Roland 588.00 Brian 385.60 Redrum 329.00 The Crucible 321.00 Rosina Worst Scores 22.00 Dave 22.00 Ian 21.00 Moose 0.00 Jen 0.00 Korio Most Wins 6 Brian 4 Sarah 4 Cubes 4 Kloppite 4 The Crucible 4 Heather 4 Redrum 4 Rosina Most quinellas 2 Brian Biggest Winning Margin1267.00 Roland 588.00 Brian Narrowest Winning Margin 22.00 Dave (on countback) 22.00 Ian Highest Losing Score 588.00 Brian Lowest Winning Score22.00 Dave Sir Castleton 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 ROUND 8 DRAW - Sat Mar 17 Meetings will be Trentham, Rosehill & Flemington THE RUBIKS (3rd) vs THE DARK HORSES (1st) Kloppite v Sarah Hesi v Korio Cubes v Rosina Geoff v Skelly Roland v Moose AD AUGUSTA (6th) vs THE ROYLE FAMILY (2nd) Wrinkles v Sharne Tom v Pete Catalano v Jen Howie v Pam Casper v Heather BETZA GRAND (5th) vs FIVE NO TRUMPS (4th) Graeme v Steve Robert v Redrum Betty v Rob PJ v Ian Dave v Ray MAINLY DOLLARZ (7th) vs LAY DOWN MISERE (8th) Jill v Rees Brian v John Jack v Tony Richie v Gordy The Crucible v Steve P Sir Castleton 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 Geese Sharne it took you long enough to "shit" in. Well done to you and The Royles on a really woefull day for us. Still a long way to go guys but we need to catch the second to last placed horse at least so we can see the rest of the field ahead. Just as an aside PJ, is there a bonus system you can implement for the most 2nds each day of the comp.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Castleton 185 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Kundalini said: I very humbly concede to Roland...Unable to fart against THUNDER Nice work Roland Thanks for the match Brian. Good luck next week. Kundalini and Cubes 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharne 240 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 11 hours ago, globederby12 said: Geese Sharne it took you long enough to "shit" in. Well done to you and The Royles on a really woefull day for us. Still a long way to go guys but we need to catch the second to last placed horse at least so we can see the rest of the field ahead. Just as an aside PJ, is there a bonus system you can implement for the most 2nds each day of the comp.. thank goodness like you said i was having such a shit day i was hoping for the last couldnt of been better 1st and 2nd and a nice bb to go with it good luck for the next round Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 I think it's completely random Hesi. Peter, any thoughts on the higher seeded captain picking matchups (if they wish) in the play-offs? I won't have to concern myself the way we're travelling at the moment but will add a bit of interest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,825 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 How do we play the same team two weeks in a row ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes 1,770 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: How do we play the same team two weeks in a row ?? Looking at the results , Mrs Cubes suggests you play them the same way ! Steve Paul 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,825 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, Cubes said: Looking at the results , Mrs Cubes suggests you play them the same way ! Ian and I couldn't play any worse than yesterday Cubes.....a couple of cigarette papers made all the difference..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 John, Dave, Hesi: The individual draws are completely random. The way they are usually done is by assigning each team member a number value based on the order they appeared on my scoresheet in the previous week's results. Using a randomly chosen Saturday meeting (this week was Randwick) as a template I assign these 1-5 values to barrier draws (which are random of course) for the horses from race 1 for the first team, race 2 for the 2nd and so on. So for example the "playing order" for the Rubiks in the results on Saturday was Cubes (1), Kloppite (2), Hesi (3), Roland (4) & Geoff (5). In race 1 in Sydney on Saturday the racebook order of the horses that drew 1 to 5 is 2 (Oklahoma Girl), 3 (Perfect Rhyme), 1 (Karavali), 5 (Pioneering) and 4 (Dreams of Paris). So the draw for next week will see the Rubiks playing order in the draw reorganised to reflect this - 2-3-1-5-4 or Kloppite-Hesi-Cubes-Geoff-Roland. This method ensures a totally random approach. For the team draws I use an online draw generator. "teamopolis.com". John's idea is interesting and might be one to experiment with in future. The seeded side already has the advantage of facing a weaker side. Not sure that giving them another perceived advantage is fair. it also supposes the Captains know what they are doing. I think this comp in particular shows - with so many unsuccessful Joker plays - that outcome prediction is very difficult. Round 8 is the first week in a completely new 7 week round. It's just coincidence that the Betza Grands and FNTs face each other again. So essentially everything is random and above board and heavily supervised in the presence of all 4 cats ! Drawing Ian after he has had one bad week - he is highly unlikely to have two in a row - would not be my ideal scenario for next week..... N1MUE 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 Despite the randomness it is interesting how often the top scorer has drawn the 2nd top scorer as happened yesterday. The odds for this are quite long ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 Full Draw for the Final 7 Round Robin matches: Round 1 # Home Score Away Score Location Date Time 1 The Rubiks The Dark Horses Location 1 2 The Royle Family Ad Augustas Location 2 3 Mainly Dollarz Lay Down Misere Location 3 4 Five No Trumps The Betza Grands Location 4 Round 2 # Home Score Away Score Location Date Time 1 Ad Augustas The Rubiks Location 3 2 The Dark Horses Lay Down Misere Location 2 3 The Royle Family The Betza Grands Location 1 4 Mainly Dollarz Five No Trumps Location 4 Round 3 # Home Score Away Score Location Date Time 1 The Rubiks Lay Down Misere Location 4 2 Ad Augustas The Betza Grands Location 1 3 The Dark Horses Five No Trumps Location 3 4 The Royle Family Mainly Dollarz Location 2 Round 4 # Home Score Away Score Location Date Time 1 The Betza Grands The Rubiks Location 2 2 Lay Down Misere Five No Trumps Location 1 3 Ad Augustas Mainly Dollarz Location 4 4 The Dark Horses The Royle Family Location 3 Round 5 # Home Score Away Score Location Date Time 1 The Rubiks Five No Trumps Location 2 2 The Betza Grands Mainly Dollarz Location 3 3 Lay Down Misere The Royle Family Location 4 4 Ad Augustas The Dark Horses Location 1 Round 6 # Home Score Away Score Location Date Time 1 Mainly Dollarz The Rubiks Location 1 2 Five No Trumps The Royle Family Location 3 3 The Betza Grands The Dark Horses Location 4 4 Lay Down Misere Ad Augustas Location 2 Round 7 # Home Score Away Score Location Date Time 1 The Rubiks The Royle Family Location 4 2 Mainly Dollarz The Dark Horses Location 2 3 Five No Trumps Ad Augustas Location 1 4 The Betza Grands Lay Down Misere Location 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, Peter Jenkins said: Despite the randomness it is interesting how often the top scorer has drawn the 2nd top scorer as happened yesterday. The odds for this are quite long ! 1 in 39 (assuming picks are independent - less if the second picker hedges some of the first picker's rougher selections) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, hesi said: Thanks Peter for that very comprehensive answer. My next question then is, playing different opponents in the second round robin, adds to the interest(no disrespect Korio, as I think you beat me in the first round robin), would you not void a draw and redraw, if it was the same match up as in the first round robin That could take Peter all night Hesi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, hesi said: Thanks Peter for that very comprehensive answer. My next question then is, playing different opponents in the second round robin, adds to the interest(no disrespect Korio, as I think you beat me in the first round robin), would you not void a draw and redraw, if it was the same match up as in the first round robin No, I think it adds to the interest. The first round loser is looking for redemption. Most of us have played each other at some point and have people we like to avoid (or like to face). I thought yesterday ended up a particularly tricky day and there were a number of upsets in head-to-head matches. Keeps it interesting. Plus there were a large number of close finishes on the track. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, Peter Jenkins said: Full Draw for the Final 7 Round Robin matches: Round 7 # Home Score Away Score Location Date Time 1 The Rubiks The Royle Family Location 4 2 Mainly Dollarz The Dark Horses Location 2 3 Five No Trumps Ad Augustas Location 1 4 The Betza Grands Lay Down Misere Location 3 Some interesting match-ups in this final week of the Round Robin..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOf40 547 Report post Posted March 10, 2018 I am thinking that Howie's Ad nauseam (was that it, my one latin lesson was less than auspicious) team better win next week or they might be at the bottom by round 3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 17, 2018 ROUND 8 Race 1 - Trentham R2 1st - 7 Hinerangi W-$2.30 2nd - 10 Dream Dancer Q-$11.70 Scr: 9 Subs: #7 then #6 0 THE RUBIKS (3rd) 69.00 2 THE DARK HORSES (1st) 115.00 Geoff, Cubes and Hesi make a start for the Rubiks but all the Dark Horses bar Moose reply including a BB for Rosina handing them a nice lead. 0.00 Kloppite 23.00 Sarah 23.00 Hesi 23.00 Korio 23.00 Cubes 46.00 Rosina 23.00 Geoff 23.00 Skelly 0.00 Roland 0.00 Moose 1 AD AUGUSTA (6th) 92.00 1 THE ROYLE FAMILY (2nd) 161.80 All but Pam and Wrinkles on the winning fave with a beaut BB quinella for Sharne (good luck today) so all square after one. 0.00 Wrinkles 92.80 Sharne 23.00 Tom 23.00 Pete 23.00 Catalano 23.00 Jen 23.00 Howie 0.00 Pam 23.00 Casper 23.00 Heather 3 BETZA GRAND (5th) 115.00 0 FIVE NO TRUMPS (4th) 46.00 Ian and Redrum kick off the FNT's day but all 5 Betzas reply handing them an impressive lead. 23.00 Graeme 0.00 Steve 23.00 Robert 23.00 Redrum 23.00 Betty 0.00 Rob 23.00 PJ 23.00 Ian 23.00 Dave 0.00 Ray 2 MAINLY DOLLARZ (7th) 69.00 1 LAY DOWN MISERE (8th) 46.00 Only Gordy with a BB on target for the LDMs with TC (also with a BB) and Jack replying for the Dollarz who snatch an early lead. 0.00 Jill 0.00 Rees 0.00 Brian 0.00 John 23.00 Jack 0.00 Tony 0.00 Richie 46.00 Gordy 46.00 The Crucible 0.00 Steve P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted March 17, 2018 Well we layed Hinerangi John..lol Steve Paul 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted March 17, 2018 ROUND 8 Race 2 - Trentham R4 1st - 5 Daytona Red W-$13.60 2nd - 2 Felaar Q-$10.10 Scr: 13 Subs: #2 then #4 0 THE RUBIKS (3rd) 69.00 3 THE DARK HORSES (1st) 251.00 The Rubiks all miss as Korio increases the lead for the Dark Horses. 0.00 Kloppite 23.00 Sarah 23.00 Hesi 159.00 Korio 23.00 Cubes 46.00 Rosina 23.00 Geoff 23.00 Skelly 0.00 Roland 0.00 Moose 1 AD AUGUSTA (6th) 92.00 1 THE ROYLE FAMILY (2nd) 161.80 Everyone missed ! 0.00 Wrinkles 92.80 Sharne 23.00 Tom 23.00 Pete 23.00 Catalano 23.00 Jen 23.00 Howie 0.00 Pam 23.00 Casper 23.00 Heather 2 BETZA GRAND (5th) 115.00 1 FIVE NO TRUMPS (4th) 182.00 The Betzas all miss as Steve finds the Ritchie roughie to pass Graeme and cut the Betzas' lead to the minimum. 23.00 Graeme 136.00 Steve 23.00 Robert 23.00 Redrum 23.00 Betty 0.00 Rob 23.00 PJ 23.00 Ian 23.00 Dave 0.00 Ray 1 MAINLY DOLLARZ (7th) 69.00 2 LAY DOWN MISERE (8th) 202.20 The LDMs take the lead thanks to a quinella from Tony who nails Jack as the Dollarz all miss. 0.00 Jill 0.00 Rees 0.00 Brian 0.00 John 23.00 Jack 156.20 Tony 0.00 Richie 46.00 Gordy 46.00 The Crucible 0.00 Steve P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right first time 1,913 Report post Posted March 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Peter Jenkins said: ROUND 8 Race 2 - Trentham R4 1st - 5 Daytona Red W-$13.60 2nd - 2 Felaar Q-$10.10 Scr: 13 Subs: #2 then #4 1 AD AUGUSTA (6th) 92.00 1 THE ROYLE FAMILY (2nd) 161.80 Everyone missed ! Not a problem, PJ. Speaking for the Double AAs, this wasn't a race we were focusing on. We only picked in it cos the race was there. Tactically, our minds were all set to later races, where we unleash the wrath of the Double AAs on any random Royles who may be in the vicinity. pete and N1MUE 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted March 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, Peter Jenkins said: The LDMs take the lead thanks to a quinella from Tony who nails Jack as the Dollarz all miss. Today is Tony's day. No luck in the first round but picked as a round 2 specialist and starting to deliver on that promise. Lay Mis are long on Lubaya in the next - here's hoping she lives up to the breeding, fills a few pockets here in the Hutt and puts the hurt on the motley Dollarz crew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOf40 547 Report post Posted March 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Right first time said: any random Royles Fragile.... Random.... "hell hath no fury .." pete and Peter Jenkins 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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