TOM(the other Molloy) 1,774 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 I happened as I was driving along to be listening to Addington early tonight and hear a horse's name 'Show Gait'. Nearly ran straight off the road! And I thought NZTR were thick. How the hell did HRNZ not pick that up? The unfortunate nag won I see but those are enormous boots to fill and if I was to ask for kardigan bay for a thoroughbred's name I suspect it might be rejected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,558 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 They seem to call them anything these days, fair suck of the sav raced mid week, a dog in oz called chee zee elmut, wonder how they get away with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM(the other Molloy) 1,774 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 26 minutes ago, Shad said: They seem to call them anything these days, fair suck of the sav raced mid week, a dog in oz called chee zee elmut, wonder how they get away with it. Re read the post. It is bordering on offensive to allow Show Gait as a name. It is not fair suck of the sav chee zee elmut or even puma pants it is Show Gate for God's sake! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portfolio 728 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 There are 100s of double ups in both codes. I don't have a problem with it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 Me neither. Different code, different spelling and the galloper ran over 40 years ago. Caduceus was a harness racing champion, and there was a galloper (jumper) running around here a year or so ago with the same name. (and don't worry Rees, I am studying the galloping form for tomorrow - just thought I'd throw this one in for you) globederby12 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, TOM(the other Molloy) said: And I thought NZTR were thick. How the hell did HRNZ not pick that up? Maybe those in charge should officially retire names (and close variations) as they do in American sports with numbers. It would be great recognition for the champions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Maybe those in charge should officially retire names (and close variations) as they do in American sports with numbers. It would be great recognition for the champions. NZ Racing do that - the names of Group One winners are protected. But I suspect they don't look cross code. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM(the other Molloy) 1,774 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 59 minutes ago, Portfolio said: There are 100s of double ups in both codes. I don't have a problem with it Give me some galloping examples. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 I saw an article in the ODT talking about this same subject as there is a harness horse with a famous throughbred name up for sale soon and basically someone could call their throughbred Lazarus and it be ok Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/racing/codes-open-idea-standing-down-names Insider and jack 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM(the other Molloy) 1,774 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 4 hours ago, jasonmccook1 said: I saw an article in the ODT talking about this same subject as there is a harness horse with a famous throughbred name up for sale soon and basically someone could call their throughbred Lazarus and it be ok I reckon NZTR are more onto it than that. I never noticed this Caduceus example but there are not many others. As I said try Kardigan Bay or Noodlum or something and I bet they would stop you. Though of course that fails to take into account the age of those approving names who may never have heard of those horses. I guess the world continues to be dumbed down all the time so one never knows but replicating Show Gate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,960 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 For years and years I have had a desire to name one of my thoroughbred mares Ladyship. Ladyship was of course, the dam of Lordship, my all time favourite standardbred. I’ve never been able to bring myself to do it. After this thread I never will! chelseacol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 speaking of Lordship we had a galloper by that name racing here in the early 2000s - won 10 races Why would they stop Noodlum or Kardigan Bay if they let through Lordship and Caduceus? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,558 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 9 hours ago, TOM(the other Molloy) said: Re read the post. It is bordering on offensive to allow Show Gait as a name. It is not fair suck of the sav chee zee elmut or even puma pants it is Show Gate for God's sake! Obviously the powers that be don't really care, and the decision makers probably wouldn't even know who show gate or a taranaki gate was, just the way things are these days, a lot of things have changed, and not always for the better. chelseacol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hands down 27 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 43 minutes ago, N1MUE said: speaking of Lordship we had a galloper by that name racing here in the early 2000s - won 10 races Why would they stop Noodlum or Kardigan Bay if they let through Lordship and Caduceus? 43 minutes ago, N1MUE said: speaking of Lordship we had a galloper by that name racing here in the early 2000s - won 10 races Why would they stop Noodlum or Kardigan Bay if they let through Lordship and Caduceus? i didnt no that , new noodlum was spelt muldoon backwards, speaking of double names, noodlum was chased all the way my a pacer called comissioner, probably spelt that wrong, think it was trained my the halls then, and earls the later one that david walsh rode alot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portfolio 728 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 Been quite a few occasions when harness & gallops have a horse by the same name, racing at the same time. I am sure someone with a better memory than me can remember who they are. I have no problems what people call their horses, in fact been some great names over the years, be great to see a few back. Pressure on I suppose, you name a horse after a good one, people expect a good un. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 I have just named my young pacer to be... Sonline. Hope he can live up to the name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R 260 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 Appreciate all the conversation, but remember everyone is not dual gaited like some of us, and may not have been aware of the other codes heros. I remember racing a harness horse called High Gun, and a thoroughbred named Hi Gun popped up at the same time. I think they were both involved in something like a inter code pick six one time. Okay, they were no stand outs, but just an example. Cheers. Robert. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted January 26, 2018 53 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Named after the great thoroughbred sunline or after your own reproduction prowess! The bugger would need to run faster than me, FU! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portfolio 728 Report post Posted January 27, 2018 19 hours ago, TOM(the other Molloy) said: Give me some galloping examples. Pretty sure there was a pacer & jumper racing early 80s , both called Goliath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted January 27, 2018 Tom there has been gallopers called Lordship,Caduceus and Delightful Lady that i can think of So why do you think that NZTR are more switched on than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM(the other Molloy) 1,774 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 On 1/28/2018 at 10:10 AM, richie said: Tom there has been gallopers called Lordship,Caduceus and Delightful Lady that i can think of So why do you think that NZTR are more switched on than that. Hmmmmm....... I see that Delightful Lady thing. I suspect I might have been a bit too nice to the NZTR mob. That is another one that should never have been allowed but clearly there are thick pricks on all sides. richie 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy 52 Report post Posted January 29, 2018 On 1/27/2018 at 9:13 AM, Happy Sunrise said: I have just named my young pacer to be... Sonline. Hope he can live up to the name. Why will never reach the same heights We all know its a sling on Sunline Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobeit 99 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/27/2018 at 0:08 AM, jasonmccook1 said: I saw an article in the ODT talking about this same subject as there is a harness horse with a famous throughbred name up for sale soon and basically someone could call their throughbred Lazarus and it be ok The most recent TB Lazarus is a 9yro gelding by Keeninsky who last raced in 2014 so there won't be another Lazarus in the NZ studbook for a few years to come. Current TB naming rules are: Rules for naming your horse There are some rules to bear in mind when naming your horse: Names must be no longer than 18 characters, including the spaces Don't apply for names whose spelling or pronunciation is similar to names already registered A name cannot be reused until 15 years has passed since the foaling of a similar named horse Names for broodmares cannot be used until 12 years has passed since that name last appeared in the Stud Book Names of winners of Group One races are protected Names of stallions cannot be used until 15 years has passed since they last appeared in a studbook. richie 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hands down 27 Report post Posted January 30, 2018 Ive just heard a galloper race in australia some provincial track , called stars and stripes , at {gosford} , if my memorys still working im sure barron had a pacer the same name some years ago, could run too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...