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16 minutes ago, poundforpound said:

So if a bank finances a farm purchase for a bloke who lives in Gore, but the bank is the ANZ, and it's foreign owned, is that ok in your world ?

That's a strange way to look at it.  In march  of this year it was reported there had been a recent spike in overseas purchase of nz farm land and forestry. As our man Winston said"it shows the then nz govt. did not give a hoot,and wheres the gain for new Zealanders."  

I'm obviously talking about the Canadians, chinese, australians, americans etc.  Not nz based farmers.  Nz based farmers will find it easier to purchase in the future as current farm prices will not be sustained due to the reduction in supply of potential buyers. The new government is at least looking to whats best for new Zealanders. 

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29 minutes ago, final luca said:

not to many banks not owned offshore there sonny. have you ever tried to get a loan lately? unless your from overseas or wages are around $250 per year you have not got a shit hell of a chance.to buy a house even under the welcome loan , set up by the governments of past years. tried it on $50,000 and was turned down, so brought house out right so no mortgage , that's suits us better :)

 

 

You're already doing well on your benefit.  Well done.

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52 minutes ago, poundforpound said:

Because you're ashamed of your position in life ?

Tell the truth, it gives you credibility ( you have none now ).

I'm guessing you're a sickness beneficiary with a long term back injury. Correct ?

got a bit of a mouth on you little man. there are some on benefit that are genuine  medical problems that can not receive ACC so have to rely on winz.

my whole left side has gone, and it is now starting on my right side, it is either cancer (i'll call it that as can not remember how to spell it's name) or diabeties, 

it is in my spinal area, legs and feet, and also affects my vision while driving , watching tv, reading or just everyday contact, yep I should not be on the road.

I don't choose to be this way, after loosing 2 sisters and 3 others in the family to the same cancer, another under going kemo, aa brother just out of hospital with cancer and a brother in law undergoing the same, I do not find it funny some comments,i'd like to live to 80 but I know that isn't going to happen, so I take every day as a blessed day. and I am grate ful for thst I do receive off winz even though it isn't a lot. because some one votes for a different political party than others doesn't make them bad, hell, I don't blame you guys for voting nation, someone has got to. the situation we are all in was caused by both labour (helen clark) and national, under mmp the people worked it so it was possible that mmp would work for the betterment of all people although some do not see it that way,only time will tell, yep I may live long enough to regret the way I voted, but for now I am happy, watching the tory's swearm , like rats in water.

but please p4p and others never presume that those on benefits are bludgers, and remember the sickness benefit ia actually no more, they amalgamated it into one benefit meaning people like myself that can not work, can be sent out for work/ or sent to jobs when and if winz feel they should and could. it works for some and not for others,but I guess you will have an answer for what I have just outlined,, and to that i'd say, good for you, I just hope you will never have to rely on a hand out and please don't insult yourself by saying it will never happen to me., I know better people than yourself that it has happened to.

 

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The truth is that in most economies you can't get the unemployed much below 5% because there's a certain type of person who simply won't work, those with a sense of entitlement who think the state owes them a living.

That’s not to say all unemployed fit into that category, but what I can say with great certainty is that all that 5% will be supporters of this disastrous toxic triangle masquerading as a functional government.

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Why don’t you comment on what appears to be the corruption being reported already as a part of this deal.

Media sources are saying Labour has agreed to spend 500 million upgrading rail to the north ( remind me again where Winnie just lost his seat, and where Shane Jones comes from ). Is that 500 million well spent, shouldn’t it be going toward the homeless or child poverty ? No the nihilistic skanks are using our money to buy power, they’re devoid of morals and will do anything, no matter how reckless, to buy their way into office.

In addition the Kermadec reserve deal which National supported, and which will probably get passed into law with a member’s bill, was sabotaged by Winnie for what reason again.....here’s a clue....it wasn’t for Owen Glenn this time.......but there’s always a backhander or a favour owed when these type of deals are sabotaged. It all seems a bit whiffy to me.

My feeling is that anyone getting into bed with Labour, or more particularly Winnie, is politically doomed, on that basis I’m pleased National didn’t buy into this type of corruption because they’ll be in on a landslide next time and NZ First will be obliterated and hopefully out of Parliament forever. We might even get to change the MMP system slightly to avoid a repetition of this current farce.

 

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5 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said:

National had there fair share of dodgy deals, just ask Murray maccully! Winnie was always going to upgrade rail up north, it seems Auckland gets everything and smaller places get nothing so a good thing if rail up north gets upgraded get all those trucks off the road so we don't need so many drivers wearing turbans, we can just use the kiwi drivers and cut down on immigration. National won't get in under Paula Bennett next election!

You anti National and pro Labour types seem to have a lot in common, no jobs, no schooling,  no idea, and a sad case of xenophobia.

 

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11 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said:

National had there fair share of dodgy deals, just ask Murray maccully! Winnie was always going to upgrade rail up north, it seems Auckland gets everything and smaller places get nothing so a good thing if rail up north gets upgraded get all those trucks off the road so we don't need so many drivers wearing turbans, we can just use the kiwi drivers and cut down on immigration. National won't get in under Paula Bennett next election!

your delusional if you think paula will lead the national as for you turbans friends if they didnt drive the cabs there would be none and  do you really realise how many immigrants come once you have found that deduct the people leaving then you will have the real figure

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55 minutes ago, poundforpound said:

Why don’t you comment on what appears to be the corruption being reported already as a part of this deal.

Media sources are saying Labour has agreed to spend 500 million upgrading rail to the north ( remind me again where Winnie just lost his seat, and where Shane Jones comes from ). Is that 500 million well spent, shouldn’t it be going toward the homeless or child poverty ? No the nihilistic skanks are using our money to buy power, they’re devoid of morals and will do anything, no matter how reckless, to buy their way into office.

In addition the Kermadec reserve deal which National supported, and which will probably get passed into law with a member’s bill, was sabotaged by Winnie for what reason again.....here’s a clue....it wasn’t for Owen Glenn this time.......but there’s always a backhander or a favour owed when these type of deals are sabotaged. It all seems a bit whiffy to me.

My feeling is that anyone getting into bed with Labour, or more particularly Winnie, is politically doomed, on that basis I’m pleased National didn’t buy into this type of corruption because they’ll be in on a landslide next time and NZ First will be obliterated and hopefully out of Parliament forever. We might even get to change the MMP system slightly to avoid a repetition of this current farce.

 

The Kermadec deal has been scuppered by the Maoris and large fishing organisations who contributed plenty to NZF campaign funds. The Port question will be interesting. A large chunk of land at Marsden has sold very recently so someone either knows something or is taking a punt. My information is though that Ports of Tauranga are a large shareholder so can't imagine they will be supporting any move.

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7 minutes ago, hesi said:

The pro's and con's of immigration can be sometimes hard to stomach for the resident population, sometimes you just have to take it on the chin.  The first generation never integrate, you have to wait until the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generations, to see integration, usually through inter racial marriage.

I can recall back in the 50's and 60's, how despised the Pommies in this country were, now they are just bloody Poms:)

And the islanders, they were victimized for a long time, now we couldn’t live without their input into Auckland life.

This xenophobia is bizarre though, we’re a homogenised world now and the sentiments being expressed against immigrants are no better than those of the hard core Maoris who want all pakeha disenfranchised.

 

 

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1 hour ago, final luca said:

got a bit of a mouth on you little man. there are some on benefit that are genuine  medical problems that can not receive ACC so have to rely on winz.

my whole left side has gone, and it is now starting on my right side, it is either cancer (i'll call it that as can not remember how to spell it's name) or diabeties, 

it is in my spinal area, legs and feet, and also affects my vision while driving , watching tv, reading or just everyday contact, yep I should not be on the road.

I don't choose to be this way, after loosing 2 sisters and 3 others in the family to the same cancer, another under going kemo, aa brother just out of hospital with cancer and a brother in law undergoing the same, I do not find it funny some comments,i'd like to live to 80 but I know that isn't going to happen, so I take every day as a blessed day. and I am grate ful for thst I do receive off winz even though it isn't a lot. because some one votes for a different political party than others doesn't make them bad, hell, I don't blame you guys for voting nation, someone has got to. the situation we are all in was caused by both labour (helen clark) and national, under mmp the people worked it so it was possible that mmp would work for the betterment of all people although some do not see it that way,only time will tell, yep I may live long enough to regret the way I voted, but for now I am happy, watching the tory's swearm , like rats in water.

but please p4p and others never presume that those on benefits are bludgers, and remember the sickness benefit ia actually no more, they amalgamated it into one benefit meaning people like myself that can not work, can be sent out for work/ or sent to jobs when and if winz feel they should and could. it works for some and not for others,but I guess you will have an answer for what I have just outlined,, and to that i'd say, good for you, I just hope you will never have to rely on a hand out and please don't insult yourself by saying it will never happen to me., I know better people than yourself that it has happened to.

 

the medical name for my illness is  Amyloidosis   myeloma,  and it seems it runs in my family.

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1 minute ago, Flagship uberalles said:

Sorry hesi I'm not the most p.c person in the world just call it as I see it...I think people have had a ring full of greedy governments looking out for the interests of the wealthy and not their own people that pay the taxes and do the hard graft...hence trump and brexit obviously a majority of people in nz feel the same way, that's why national is not in power.

Trump is a republican FFS, Brexit was triggered by David Cameron, he’s a Tory FFS.

Do you understand what’s left and what’s right ?

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26 minutes ago, hesi said:

The pro's and con's of immigration can be sometimes hard to stomach for the resident population, sometimes you just have to take it on the chin.  The first generation never integrate, you have to wait until the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generations, to see integration, usually through inter racial marriage.

I can recall back in the 50's and 60's, how despised the Pommies in this country were, now they are just bloody Poms:)

And still bloody despised Hesi....:rolleyes:

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6 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said:

There is no left and right anymore in nz....that wasn't my point whether they were tories or not, my point was people are sick of being sold down the river, why don't you read the post properly.

Clearly you don’t understand politics, you’re referencing Brexit / Trump nationalism and populism to support what’s happened here ( which is neither ) although Winston is a known racist so maybe that’s what you’re aligned with.

Maybe you should just focus on something you’re knowledgeable about, something like colouring in books.

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Just now, hesi said:

I recall the Islanders came after the Poms, I worked(yes I have worked, all my life actually) in the Waitoa dairy factory in those days packing milk powder, and NZ Co-Op Dairy brought in a whole lot of Tongans to work, they were big strong fellas who could through a 25kg bag of milk powder across the packing hall.  They did their 3 months or whatever the season was and scarpered up to Auckland, never to be heard of again.

You have gone up to Auckland also but unfortunately we hear plenty from you. :P 

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On 10/19/2017 at 9:58 PM, Insider said:

That’s OK. The young of NZ will once again be able to OWN THEIR OWN HOUSE. 

Is that a bad thing?

 

They won’t because they won’t go without any things they regard as normal, to save.  They want it handed to them on a plate.

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16 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said:

People who cannot have a proper debate and don't have a clue what they are talking about normally are reduced to personal attacks, you seem to be good at that at least p4p.

I just find it rather odd that your best analysis by way of global comparison is inherently wrong.

Surely if you’re going to try to substantiate your position you should use relevant comparisons.

Brexit and Trump were driven by very different factors to what drove the NZ election, other than the xenophobia ( but that’s not what you alluded to.)

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34 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said:

No what I alluded to was people are generally sick of being sold down the river by their governments all in different ways, that's why people voted for a brexit and why people voted for trump. Now back to my colouring book.

 No weight in that argument.

National lost one seat election night, but gained two.

What swung the election was the Maori going back to Labour from the Maori Party, and that was due to a tactical blunder by T Flav.

BTW Brexit was caused by three things, a stagnant U.K. economy, sovereignty issues and opposition to EU control, and what's more both the Torys and Labour parties wanted the UK to stay in Europe. But hey, you're wrong on everything so this'll come as no surprise to you !!!

Now get back to that colouring book, and if you get stuck Hesi and Final Luca will help you. 

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1 hour ago, Tapu said:

 

They won’t because they won’t go without any things they regard as normal, to save.  They want it handed to them on a plate.

totally agree. my eldest grandson is 17, we have quite a large section that until a month or two ago I was mowing, my wife and daughter have been trying to get on top of it, today my daughter was out there mowing with the jolly thing right down and still the grandson sat in his room playing games, so I went out and did some mowing then I had to give it up because of pain , these young fella of today piss me off something terrible, my children were brought up to do things, they all have jobs, as school kids and still do. the grandson is meant to leave school come end of this year and has no idea what he wants to do... I do worry for him, but it all comes down to choices as parents etc, we can only guide to the best of our ability.

 

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