Pour Moi - an observation

[Dopey 214]

On 2/25/2018 at 7:36 PM, Swynford said:

So wrote or roc de cambes on swynfords advice 

[Mattski 176]

Hi Swynford

What do u think of the pedigree of this Darci passed in at Karaka? Has the "Danzig sire double" been as disappointing as the Danehill double? I think Valley Girl was a Danzig double.

Thanks, Matt

 

Sire Darci Brahma 2002	Danehill	Danzig	Northern Dancer
		Razyana	His Majesty
	Grand Echezeaux	Zabeel	Sir Tristram
		Richebourg	Vice Regal
Dam Southern Sunset (GB) 2002	Polish Precedent	Danzig	Northern Dancer
		Past Example	Buckpasser
	Due South	Darshaan	Shirley Heights
		Island Wedding	Blushing Groom

   

[Swynford 121]

Hope this answers part of your question,  76 Group One winners inbred to Danzig.   But to my mind there is far more to a pedigree than one duplication.

 I think doubling Danzig is a good thing, it just depends where the duplication is in the pedigree how much value I would place on it.

 

[Swynford 121]

4 hours ago, Mattski said:

Hi Swynford

What do u think of the pedigree of this Darci passed in at Karaka? Has the "Danzig sire double" been as disappointing as the Danehill double? I think Valley Girl was a Danzig double.

Thanks, Matt

 

Sire Darci Brahma 2002	Danehill	Danzig	Northern Dancer
		Razyana	His Majesty
	Grand Echezeaux	Zabeel	Sir Tristram
		Richebourg	Vice Regal
Dam Southern Sunset (GB) 2002	Polish Precedent	Danzig	Northern Dancer
		Past Example	Buckpasser
	Due South	Darshaan	Shirley Heights
		Island Wedding	Blushin

   

So when looking at a pedigree for the first time I would always start with the mare and her male line,  as we can see it is same as the sire''s sire line.  So a double Danzig.  However in this case it is a bit deeper than that as Danzig's sire Northern Dancer also connects with his half sister Spring Adieu in Danehill's female line.   That part I think is brilliant.

I would then look at the 2nd dam and there is no BIG connection here with Darci. 

Maybe a slight one with Darshaan and Wilkes both from the #13 Bruce Lowe family , some call it the Kite family.

Same with the 3rd dam.

4th dam is BY Northern Dancer.  WOW    not many mares can claim that.  Again connects beautifully with Danehill's female family. 

For perfection I would like to see a good line breeding pattern on the female side of Darci.

If Wilkes was on the male line of either the 2nd or 3rd dam I would say it was a pedigree (or a piece of paper ) as close to perfect as you could get.

And much like playing cards, it would be a good idea to have a look at the horse and see what one has been dealt.

 

[Insider 3,932]

The filly looks fantastic in the video clip on the NZB website. 

A great walker. Swings her bum as she goes along. Strong in that part too!

Mattski, are you intending to be involved with her?

[chiknsmack 479]

On 3/1/2018 at 8:31 PM, Swynford said:

4th dam is BY Northern Dancer.  WOW    not many mares can claim that.  Again connects beautifully with Danehill's female family.

That Northern Dancer mare is a full sister to Storm Bird, Champion 2yo and sire of Storm Cat.

[Dopey 214]

And Northern State - an average to poor full brother to storm cat - I raced a mare by him called Lydessa from Condessa. 

[Dopey 214]

41 minutes ago, Dopey said:

And Northern State - an average to poor full brother to storm bird  - I raced a mare by him called Lydessa from Condessa. 

Storm Bird not Storm cat ....