Jacinda Ardern

[bloke 1,232]

8 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

The main reason was the third term Hesi. For some stupid reason NZ'rs decide then its time for change no matter how well we are doing. Hard to fathom given recent results, but there is no doubt the Nats could have done better for more, and paid the price when the new Messiah came along....inexperienced unachiever but photogenic......social media triumphs over substance....

They tried to "rub out" Winston and shat in their own nest

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3 minutes ago, bloke said:

They tried to "rub out" Winston and shat in their own nest

Regardless of what they did, Winston was never going to go Nats as long as the backroom manipulator Joyce was there.

Had he gone Nats, then Joyce's full time job would have been to undermine Peters.  You would have to be stupid to take that on, and Peters may be a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them

[rdytdy 5,341]

13 minutes ago, hesi said:

Regardless of what they did, Winston was never going to go Nats as long as the backroom manipulator Joyce was there.

Had he gone Nats, then Joyce's full time job would have been to undermine Peters.  You would have to be stupid to take that on, and Peters may be a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them

Let's see if they cross the 5% threshold next election then Hesi. 

[rdytdy 5,341]

22 minutes ago, hesi said:

 

Do you seriously think if Ardern was just an inexperienced, photogenic unachiever, she would have made it this far

Well we keep asking you what she achieved as PM Hesi but you don't seem to want to answer the question. You seem to mimicking your princess as she avoids answering anything difficult also. 

Having conversations isn't achieving anything. 

[bloke 1,232]

To date she has not done alot which is not necessarily bad given that many of you Tories were predicting doom and gloom  they were socilaists (when the Tories had the biggest socialist Prime Minister ever)and that they would borrow heaps when in fact its the Tories with a history for borrowing.

Labour has a history for making significant legislation changes. The Lange Govenrnent was the most pro free enterprise Government in our history. The Clark Government introduced non smoking in pubs restaurants etc which to a non smoker like  me was brilliant and we stayed out of conflict when the Yanks raced into Iraq and the stupid Tories wnated to follow the Yanks. Then they introduced Kiwi saver probably the most significant legislation in the last 20 years..

Meanwhile all the Tories have is Crusher legislation and  her 3 cars. I can still see the photo of that stupid Tory Tart standing in her high hells on the first of 3 cars in total  to be crushed

 

So you tell me Ted what do the Tories stand for?

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52 minutes ago, rdytdy said:

Well we keep asking you what she achieved as PM Hesi but you don't seem to want to answer the question. You seem to mimicking your princess as she avoids answering anything difficult also. 

Having conversations isn't achieving anything. 

We'll pass the hat around RC so you can take a holiday Ted as you seem to have become very bitter and twisted about her, you are a really bad loser

I'll leave the polls and the coalitions end results to judge that, as opposed to copy and pasting any news article that comes up that supports my stance.  If she doesn't achieve she will be gone in less than 3 years.

[rdytdy 5,341]

 

 

1 hour ago, hesi said:

We'll pass the hat around RC so you can take a holiday Ted as you seem to have become very bitter and twisted about her, you are a really bad loser

I'll leave the polls and the coalitions end results to judge that, as opposed to copy and pasting any news article that comes up that supports my stance.  If she doesn't achieve she will be gone in less than 3 years.

The problem with you Hesi is that can't debate anything past the election. We all know what happened, your princess became PM on the whim of one man, but the discussion has moved along to what is currently happening with the government of the day with Ardern as PM and on what they are achieving or not achieving and as Bloke has finally acknowledged "far call". You have been completely vacuous on this aspect and want to keep dragging us back to October last year.

It's all about accountability now Hesi, promises have now become aspirations and back flips abound. No wonder the public are asking questions even if the media are not. 

 

 

[gary1 361]

2 hours ago, hesi said:

We'll pass the hat around RC so you can take a holiday Ted as you seem to have become very bitter and twisted about her, you are a really bad loser

I'll leave the polls and the coalitions end results to judge that, as opposed to copy and pasting any news article that comes up that supports my stance.  If she doesn't achieve she will be gone in less than 3 years.

gone    wake up hesi she's a part time pm that should never had got in

[N1MUE 1,877]

They promised they'd make the first year of tertiary study "fees free".  My daughter just started her first year of tertiary study and she doesn't have to rack up a student loan for that first year.

Good effort getting that policy implemented so quickly!

[rdytdy 5,341]

2 hours ago, bloke said:

To date she has not done alot which is not necessarily bad given that many of you Tories were predicting doom and gloom  they were socilaists (when the Tories had the biggest socialist Prime Minister ever)and that they would borrow heaps when in fact its the Tories with a history for borrowing.

Labour has a history for making significant legislation changes. The Lange Govenrnent was the most pro free enterprise Government in our history. The Clark Government introduced non smoking in pubs restaurants etc which to a non smoker like  me was brilliant and we stayed out of conflict when the Yanks raced into Iraq and the stupid Tories wnated to follow the Yanks. Then they introduced Kiwi saver probably the most significant legislation in the last 20 years..

Meanwhile all the Tories have is Crusher legislation and  her 3 cars. I can still see the photo of that stupid Tory Tart standing in her high hells on the first of 3 cars in total  to be crushed

 

So you tell me Ted what do the Tories stand for?

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Would have thought that would known Bloke, at least you have a few more clues than Hesi.

I would say that they stand for the best outcome for society where individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the power of the government minimized. A system that respects and protects individual rights without intervention, enabling people to live their lives, act on their judgement, keep and use their property and pursue happiness and have the right to freedom. 

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35 minutes ago, rdytdy said:

 

 

The problem with you Hesi is that can't debate anything past the election. We all know what happened, your princess became PM on the whim of one man, but the discussion has moved along to what is currently happening with the government of the day with Ardern as PM and on what they are achieving or not achieving and as Bloke has finally acknowledged "far call". You have been completely vacuous on this aspect and want to keep dragging us back to October last year.

It's all about accountability now Hesi, promises have now become aspirations and back flips abound. No wonder the public are asking questions even if the media are not. 

 

 

You've only got to look at the patronising list of what you think she has achieved, to see what your problem is, you're a bad loser,. but we all knew that anyway.

 

 

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43 minutes ago, N1MUE said:

They promised they'd make the first year of tertiary study "fees free".  My daughter just started her first year of tertiary study and she doesn't have to rack up a student loan for that first year.

Good effort getting that policy implemented so quickly!

Wasting your time debating with him John, he has got his hooks into her(like quite a few bitter Nats), he's already decided she is not up to it, so it is just a matter of him joining up the dots to paint as gloomier a picture as he can

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53 minutes ago, gary1 said:

gone    wake up hesi she's a part time pm that should never had got in

We'll see

If she turns out to be a dud, I'm happy to admit I was wrong, but will you Nats admit you were wrong if she turns out to be a successful leader who gets Labour re-elected....... I very much doubt that, such is the arrogance on show

 

[barryb 2,064]

Hey Hesi what are you up to now Whitebaiting has finished?

Maybe you could sign up as volunteer labour to help Twyford with Kiwibuild? I know it’s mushroom season and you will be out busy roaming illegally through hard working farmers paddocks, net a few trout whilst you are at it.

Wander out at low tide and get a sack full of Paua , catch a shitload of undersized snapper,tend to your crops in a plantation?

Has Jacinda changed the day you have to pop into WINZ and tell them you are still unfit for work due to your mystery illness?

 

[barryb 2,064]

Hesi you are just so lucky Rankin isn’t still in charge.

[rdytdy 5,341]

48 minutes ago, hesi said:

You've only got to look at the patronising list of what you think she has achieved, to see what your problem is, you're a bad loser,. but we all knew that anyway.

 

 

Yet more vacuous comment Hesi. You are really on a roll tonight.    

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5 minutes ago, barryb said:

Hey Hesi what are you up to now Whitebaiting has finished?

Maybe you could sign up as volunteer labour to help Twyford with Kiwibuild? I know it’s mushroom season and you will be out busy roaming illegally through hard working farmers paddocks, net a few trout whilst you are at it.

Wander out at low tide and get a sack full of Paua , catch a shitload of undersized snapper,tend to your crops in a plantation?

Has Jacinda changed the day you have to pop into WINZ and tell them you are still unfit for work due to your mystery illness?

 

Haha very good, I thought you'd gone cold turkey with Trump giving you a hard time.

Yes there are a few mushrooms up on my sons farm, that I'm sure he wouldn't mind us having

No paua or undersize snapper in the Kaipara, and all our crops are legal

 

 

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2 minutes ago, rdytdy said:

Yet more vacuous comment Hesi. You are really on a roll tonight.    

Go take your pills Ted, you're starting to repeat yourself

[barryb 2,064]

7 hours ago, hesi said:

Haha very good, I thought you'd gone cold turkey with Trump giving you a hard time.

Yes there are a few mushrooms up on my sons farm, that I'm sure he wouldn't mind us having

No paua or undersize snapper in the Kaipara, and all our crops are legal

 

 

Trumpie, he’s a f—Kstick like the real one. Just lining him up for a spray mate. Now back to your benefit bed, a huge day of bludging ahead of you.

[gary1 361]

9 hours ago, hesi said:

We'll see

If she turns out to be a dud, I'm happy to admit I was wrong, but will you Nats admit you were wrong if she turns out to be a successful leader who gets Labour re-elected....... I very much doubt that, such is the arrogance on show

 

hesi how did her meeting go with turnbull rumour has it ne told her she should be doing more in the pacific region she comes home and says we are going to give samoa 10 mill  go figure 

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44 minutes ago, gary1 said:

hesi how did her meeting go with turnbull rumour has it ne told her she should be doing more in the pacific region she comes home and says we are going to give samoa 10 mill  go figure 

Look it up yourself Gary, I'm not here to do your research, you're starting to sound like that sour old loser Ted.

If he was interested at all in what Ardern had achieved so far, which of course he isn't, all he had to do was go to the Labour website, or in fact any news website that reported on the first 100 days.

He's quite adept at that, he's even learning new long words through it

As I commented to N1MUE, no point debating with him(so I don't), he made his mind up the day she was appointed leader of the Labour party, that she was not up to it, and it is just a matter of joining up the dots for 3 years.

Quite sad that a grown man can be so parochial and myopic.

As you would have gathered I'm all for her, but I'm prepared to give Bridges the benefit of the doubt to see how well he handles his new role.  He is the new breed as is Ardern, and the voting public will decide whether they are up to it, the next poll will give an early indication

 

[Ohokaman 5,825]

1 hour ago, hesi said:

Look it up yourself Gary, I'm not here to do your research, you're starting to sound like that sour old loser Ted.

If he was interested at all in what Ardern had achieved so far, which of course he isn't, all he had to do was go to the Labour website, or in fact any news website that reported on the first 100 days.

He's quite adept at that, he's even learning new long words through it

As I commented to N1MUE, no point debating with him(so I don't), he made his mind up the day she was appointed leader of the Labour party, that she was not up to it, and it is just a matter of joining up the dots for 3 years.

Quite sad that a grown man can be so parochial and myopic.

As you would have gathered I'm all for her, but I'm prepared to give Bridges the benefit of the doubt to see how well he handles his new role.  He is the new breed as is Ardern, and the voting public will decide whether they are up to it, the next poll will give an early indication

 

No it won't...nobody cares this far out....

[rdytdy 5,341]

1 hour ago, hesi said:

Look it up yourself Gary, I'm not here to do your research, you're starting to sound like that sour old loser Ted.

If he was interested at all in what Ardern had achieved so far, which of course he isn't, all he had to do was go to the Labour website, or in fact any news website that reported on the first 100 days.

He's quite adept at that, he's even learning new long words through it

As I commented to N1MUE, no point debating with him(so I don't), he made his mind up the day she was appointed leader of the Labour party, that she was not up to it, and it is just a matter of joining up the dots for 3 years.

Quite sad that a grown man can be so parochial and myopic.

As you would have gathered I'm all for her, but I'm prepared to give Bridges the benefit of the doubt to see how well he handles his new role.  He is the new breed as is Ardern, and the voting public will decide whether they are up to it, the next poll will give an early indication

 

 

yawn.  

When it comes to debate you are as shallow as a puddle on Swanson Road.  

Keep reading your Vogue magazines and Womens Weeklies.   

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After some of the shyte you post on here, I'm thinking shallow and vacuous is probably preferable to being full of acrid, stale, hot air that typifies you.

Anyway we'll look forward to your next copy and paste.

[rdytdy 5,341]

Yet more garbage from you Hesi.  Sour grapes and name calling is actually your domain.  I am pragmatic and am a realist so if holding Ardern and the coalition to account upsets you, so be it. Better get used to it......or should that be bedder