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40 minutes ago, bloke said:

Sleep well Ted don't start  yelling out "Jacinda Jacinda" at 2 in the morning and then your Mrs shoves you out of the bed to sleep on your own because she has had enough of your nightmares.

I'll answer that , shocking , shambles and incompetent , she's a nightmare alright ,  running a country is a lot tougher than running a young communists organization especially when your deputy has more power than yourself . Housing bloke ,  '''' When I became minister, we were building 15,000 houses a year, five years ago. Last year we built 31,000 houses - that's a more than doubling. Statistics NZ data shows when Dr Smith took over the housing portfolio, there were indeed around 15,000 consents for new dwellings. And last year, there were about 31,000."""And here's why people who are struggling to buy a house are being played for fools ,  the upper income limit for KiwiBuild applicants - $120,000 for singles and $180,000 for couples.

This lot are building for top earners , hell even many at the racing board don't earn $120,000 .

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HDPA says Ardern is spineless

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Heather du Plessis-Allan says Jacinda Ardern is spineless: Quote:

Gone by lunchtime.

Embattled minister Clare Curran has resigned. Last night she offered her resignation and the Prime Minister accepted.

But this is hardly the tidy end you’d think it is.

This whole episode has done massive damage to this government – the Prime Minister especially.   

What’s become obvious today is that our Prime Minister can dance around the truth when she wants to.

This morning on Chris Lynch’s show she did a little bit of that tricky stuff

When asked: “Are you considering cutting ties with her though? Firing her?”, the Prime Minister answered: “Ah no because I think she’s paid her price.”

That was this morning, but she’d already accepted Curran’s resignation last night.

To be fair, she was asked if she would fire Curran. She said no. And that is true, she didn’t fire her, Curran resigned

 But she also said: ”I think she’s paid her price”, which was probably designed to make it sound like Curran’s job was safe.

Probably just to buy time. Just to be able to release the information when it suited her – late on a Friday afternoon when everybody’s started thinking about the weekend already. End quote.

It was a dishonest reply and rather economical with the truth. Quote:

So much for Ardern saying her Government was going to be the most open and transparent the country’s ever seen.

Hard to expect your government to do it when you can’t even, right?

It’s also made the Prime Minister look weak.

She should’ve sacked Curran when she inappropriately met with RNZ boss Carol Hirschfeld in a café in Wellington. At that stage ,it was clear Curran was going to be a liability

She should’ve sacked Curran when she failed to put into her diary a meeting with a chap looking for a government job. Then it was screaming out that Curran was a liability.

And finally, she should’ve sacked her last night

Ardern looks like she can’t bring herself to sack someone, even someone tearing up her Government’s reputation

It makes you ask: if the PM doesn’t have the spine for an obvious and easy sacking, what other tough decisions does she not have the spine for?

And as for Curran’s exit statement, she told reporters that the pressure has become “intolerable” because the current heat being placed on her is unlikely to go away.

Come on, that’s blaming everyone else!

Curran’s not in this position because people are chasing her. She’s in this position because she kept stuffing up. End quote.

Dead set useless from the top down. Curran was never up to the task and neither is Jacinda Ardern.

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11 hours ago, tripple alliance said:

I'll answer that , shocking , shambles and incompetent , she's a nightmare alright ,  running a country is a lot tougher than running a young communists organization especially when your deputy has more power than yourself . Housing bloke ,  '''' When I became minister, we were building 15,000 houses a year, five years ago. Last year we built 31,000 houses - that's a more than doubling. Statistics NZ data shows when Dr Smith took over the housing portfolio, there were indeed around 15,000 consents for new dwellings. And last year, there were about 31,000."""And here's why people who are struggling to buy a house are being played for fools ,  the upper income limit for KiwiBuild applicants - $120,000 for singles and $180,000 for couples.

This lot are building for top earners , hell even many at the racing board don't earn $120,000 .

Mate Simple Simon agreed that the Tories cocked up over housing. They demanded that tha Housing Corp return a ividend of $500 M a year and were selling off houses rather than building.

Communist that is a strange word. Vietnam is Communist and they are more private enterprise than NZ

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Best you keep up bloke, you keep referring to the past going back 30-40 years even. This thread is about the present and "Socialist Cindy" and her gang: The fairy dust is turning out to be asbestos. 

HDPA pretty much says Cindy needs to HTFU

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It is a weak argument to cry sexism when someone gets held to account, in the same way that some brown people cry racism when they get held to account. The left-wing are far too quick to cry sexism, especially when they are the ones demanding equality at the same time.

Heather duPlessis-Allan says as much in her column yesterday: Quote:

It’s too easy to call it sexism. It’s also too lazy.

The Prime Minister isn’t copping criticism over her VIP solo flight to Nauru because she’s a woman. Or because she’s a mother. It’s because she shouldn’t have gone to Nauru.

The sexism accusation has been thrown over the past week. But, here are three reasons calling out the PM isn’t sexist.   

Firstly, a similar stunt by a man also earned him a decent roasting. In 2011, then-Foreign Minister Murray McCully burnt an estimated $61,000 flying to Vanuatu for a day-long meeting. It seemed like an arrogant extravagance. He copped it good and proper for over a week. End quote.

Yep, and Labour ran that hit really hard, including feeding me information about the seating fit-out on the plane. Quote:

The second reason is that the real sexism is expecting the Prime Minister to go to Nauru.

She is the mum of an 11-week old baby who doesn’t yet have the vaccinations required to travel. Expecting a mother to work like she doesn’t have a dependent infant is unreasonable. End quote.

What a load of tosh on that one. What is unreasonable is for a prime minister to take light duties after claiming she can do it all. Worse still is resorting to using the baby as an excuse. You can’t have it both ways. You are either the super-mum who can do it all, or you aren’t. Clearly, Cindy can’t. Quote:

Real feminists wouldn’t argue that Ardern should work like a man who has a full-time wife at home. They’d argue that she should work like a mum with a wee one. Which is to say she should rewrite the rules of the job. To suit herself. So, stay home if she needs to. End quote.

Stay home, get your pay docked. Haven’t seen that happening. Quote:

And the final reason is that she didn’t need to go. Which is really why the PM is copping it.

Joining the Forum for one day feels like a token effort. It’s like turning up for the last five minutes of the kids’ rugger game. You can say you were there, but you missed all the important stuff like the try scored 15 minutes in. End quote.

It was a token effort. Jacinda Ardern’s approach to work is like Kiwi Cricket. It’s about participation, not results. Quote:

She turned up to a party no one else important bothered to join. Australia’s new PM wasn’t there. Fiji’s PM dodged it. It was hardly a gathering of powerful leaders.

Australia’s PM had a good reason: He’s new to the job. When Bill English didn’t go last year he had a good reason: The election campaign. Ardern had a good reason too: The baby.

Also, she came away with nothing. She didn’t score any major wins.

A win would have been shoving it up the Australians by getting photographed holding hands with the refugees they’re ill-treating. Didn’t happen. Or, giving the Aussies a bollocking face to face over the matter. Hard to do when the Australian PM wasn’t there.

Ardern could’ve left that job to Foreign Minister Winston Peters, seeing as his counterpart from Australia was there.

Rather, the trip felt a cynical exercise in pumping the PM’s personal brand. Mostly to a New Zealand audience. It’s good to be seen doing important international stuff. It makes the PM look more Prime Ministerial. It’s also good to be seen being fawned on by foreigners.

This is important to the Beehive.

Our PM is adored overseas. International media and world leaders love her. By now the Beehive will know it’s a bonus when us Kiwis see her representing us offshore.

Remember that photo of a pregnant Prime Minister in a feather cloak, walking through Buckingham Palace next to tux-clad partner Clarke Gayford? The couple looked stunning. They also looked Kiwi As inside a palace. Ardern’s popularity shot up in private polls. End quote.

And where is her popularity now? What did she achieve from the photo op? What has she achieved at anything? Quote:

Ardern probably didn’t get the amazing international moment she was hoping for. The most bankable moment came when Nauru President Baron Waqa picked up his guitar and sang a song he’d written for Ardern. Mostly that was awkward. He is after all the guy running a country that doubles as Australia’s refugee prison.

And that is why the decision deserves to be criticised. Because, it so clearly was a decision that benefited the Prime Minister, not the country.

And it is not sexist to say that. End quote.

No, it isn’t. It isn’t sexist to say she isn’t up to the job either.

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2 hours ago, bloke said:

Mate Simple Simon agreed that the Tories cocked up over housing. They demanded that tha Housing Corp return a ividend of $500 M a year and were selling off houses rather than building.

Communist that is a strange word. Vietnam is Communist and they are more private enterprise than NZ

Yes transferred houses that were no longer viable to housing trusts because of there age and condition , these trusts had government backing (around 500 mill). The cockup National made was the under estimation of there own  success , 30,000 kiwis a year used to move to Australia , that stopped and 30,000 a year returned for a better life under a successful National government , that didn't help housing and of course Winston was going to fix immigration by cutting it to 10,000 from 60,000, it's still 60,000 .

Ownership and management of 2800 state houses will be transferred to an Auckland redevelopment company, as the Government moves to offload some of its massive stock of housing in Auckland.

The houses will be transferred to the Tamaki Redevelopment Company (TRC), "to encourage regeneration , 

English said Thursday's announcement showed the Government was "determined to do a better job" with social housing. 

"The Government owns one in 16 houses in Auckland and we need to do a better job with them for the sake of tenants and aspiring homeowners, as well as for the neighbourhoods they live in and the wider city." "This transfer of ownership of HNZC properties and the responsibility for tenancy management to TRC will enable faster construction of warm, dry and safe houses that better meet people's needs.".

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The Kiwis came home because the Aussie Government clamped down on them denying them access free healthcare, superannuation etc.

Anyway its good  to be able to debate with you Triple A, poor old Ted just cut and pastes. He needs to stick with racing, he knows a bit about that

 

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11 hours ago, bloke said:

The Kiwis came home because the Aussie Government clamped down on them denying them access free healthcare, superannuation etc.

Anyway its good  to be able to debate with you Triple A, poor old Ted just cut and pastes. He needs to stick with racing, he knows a bit about that

 

Spin it that way if you wish but we know the truth , the only thing kiwis over there have to do to qualify for Australian benefits is to become Australian citizens , they preferred to return to a good economy . Housing , I forced myself to watch cindy this morning and was stunned to hear her say 40 yes only forty people are in the ballot for the first 18 kiwi built new homes , she expects a few more but that is a disaster for their AFFORDABLE homes policy , they are simply not affordable unless you are on a huge salary , so much for looking after the less well off .

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Tracy Watkins on the weakness of Jacinda Ardern

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Tracy Watkins looks at the weakness of Jacinda Ardern, and National’s strategy in pushing that particular button: Quote:

When Labour MP Kelvin Davis called former prime minister John Key weak and gutless, a fired-up Key accused Labour of backing child molesters, rapists and murderers, and triggered a walkout of Parliament.

“Get some guts” was another one of Key’s more memorable lines when Labour opposed the deployment of troops to Iraq.

Attack is usually considered the best form of defence in politics, yet Key could just as easily go the other way. When he was under pressure over errant MPs he often fell back on a shoulder shrug and an assurance to anyone who asked that he was pretty “relaxed” about it.

 

But he could afford to be relaxed because no one ever doubted Key was in control. End quote.

No, because at the first sign of trouble with an MP he axed them. Richard Worth never knew what hit him.  Most people can’t even remember Worth now.  Quote:

So Simon Bridges calling Jacinda Ardern “weak and indecisive” is of course calculated to do the most damage. Bridges is wrong – no one can do Ardern’s job and be weak, and especially not in this day and age. The pressure is massive, the hours are punishing, the scrutiny is immense and you can’t walk away and shut the door on everyone for a day. End quote.

Which is precisely what Ardern did the other day when she had a home day after her little, expensive jaunt to Nauru.  Quote:

But Ardern has been dealt a very different hand to Key.

As she reminded reporters on the way into Parliamentary Question time on Wednesday, hers is the first “pure” coalition government since the introduction of MMP more than 20 years ago. That might as well be code for “hospital pass”. End quote.

Most of the hospital passes are coming from within Labour and not her coalition parties. Quote:

The Key government had a near majority and was usually able to play off the Māori Party against Act or United Future to get legislation through.

Ardern needs both NZ First and the Greens to sign her programme off. She has a tiger by the tail because experience shows that MMP is cruel to minor parties in coalition government. End quote.

It doesn’t help that she doesn’t actually have a programme, other than to have endless conversations. Quote:

Kicking up against the bigger party in Government is the surest way to get oxygen and carve out their own identity. And the way the numbers fell on election night means either minor party could hold Labour hostage to their programme should they wish.

It just so happens that it’s NZ First and Winston Peters that are doing all the tail wagging at the moment.

Peters has dealt Labour a succession of harsh lessons in MMP by pulling the rug out from under Ardern and her ministers on the three strikes law and refugee numbers, for instance.

The other instance was only this week when plans to unveil a new agency called the Crown Māori Partnership were canned at the 11th hour, but not before journalists had been invited to the announcement.

NZ First is understood to have forced the backdown and demanded the word “partnership” be removed from the new agency’s name. An announcement is now expected on Thursday.

The lesson is that, unless Labour policies are agreed in coalition negotiations and tied down in Ardern’s speech from the throne, it shouldn’t be assumed they are Government policy. End quote.

Labour thought they could treat both the Greens and NZ First like Helen Clark treated them. The big problem is Jacinda Ardern is no Helen Clark. Quote:

Labour ministers seem to have been painfully slow to learn that lesson, presenting as policy decisions that have not been signed off by Peters. And Peters is the ultimate showman, timing those lessons for maximum effect.

But it’s Ardern who has had to pay the price by having to turn the other cheek to Peters’ gamesmanship and opportunism. End quote.

It is her weakness that leads to this, and the arrogance of labour who think that if they constantly say “a Labour-led government” that Winston won’t mind that, or his MPs. They do. Quote:

Peters jumped down the throat of reporters who questioned on Wednesday whether Labour’s latest sacrifice might be the multi employer agreements specified under its industrial relations reforms – but, notably, he also refused to commit to supporting them.

Stuff has been told that NZ First has drafted changes to the legislation for when it comes back before the House.

The end game appears to be either leverage, or oxygen, or kudos from the business sector for moderating Labour’s union base – or at least cultivating that perception.

But if NZ First overplays its hand it will have forced Ardern into a standoff that she must win. Otherwise it will look like NZ First is holding a gun to Labour’s head.

That would be buying Ardern a fight not just with her caucus and party activists but the Green Party as well.

The middle ground might be a compromise both sides can live with, because the alternative could end up being the nuclear option. End quote.

Why would Winston Peter compromise. If Jacinda Ardern thinks she can win that game then she will be the leader of the opposition in about as much time as it takes Winston to share a scotch with Bridges and pop down to see the Governor-general.

Winston Peters has options, Jacinda Ardern does not. Labour also has endless ministers who are tits and simply not performing. All the screw ups are Labour’s at the moment, and Jacinda Ardern can’t win a standoff, hence the growing perception of weakness.

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Let the games begin!!

 

Trouble at t’ mill

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It seems that Cindy has not given up on her idea of doubling the refugee quota, in spite of the fact that Winston Peters has indicated he is not interested.

Newshub  reports: quote:

Jacinda Ardern says she wants to “double the quota” of refugees coming to New Zealand, putting her back on a collision course with Foreign Minister Winston Peters.

Appearing on The AM Show on Tuesday, the Prime Minister said she was staying firm on Labour’s campaign promise and her offer to take refugees from the Nauru detention centre. end quote.

 

This is dangerous stuff, Cindy. These sort of spats are much better conducted behind closed doors. In an MMP environment, even the largest governing party has to give in to their minor partners, or they can find themselves high and dry. And Cindy is heading that way over refugees. quote:

“I want to double the quota,” she told host Duncan Garner.

“That is my intention, the offer’s on the table, and Australia hasn’t removed that offer.

“As long as there are refugees waiting to be resettled it hasn’t moved on and as long as New Zealand’s offer is on the table it hasn’t moved on.” end quote.

You may want to consult Winston about that? quote:

“There is a coalition government, and that coalition Government did not promise to double the refugee numbers,” he said.

“We’ve agreed to take it to 1000… but we’ve made no announcement to double it.

“I can show you parts of Hokianga and elsewhere parts of Northland where people are living in degradation. We have to fix their lives up as well before we start taking on new obligations.” end quote.

Winston is right… we have enough people living in poverty or difficulty without increasing the numbers. Refugees will displace New Zealanders who need help, and there is no reason to do that. quote:

Ms Ardern said Mr Lees-Galloway was just repeating a Labour policy, and changing the numbers would mean going through Cabinet – which would mean dealing with Mr Peters.

“As with everything, Duncan, we have a Cabinet process to go through and I expect we’ll be doing that soon,” she told Garner.

“We’re working through it as a team, Duncan. This is what MMP is and it’s nothing unusual.” end quote.

Dream on, Socialist Cindy. If you think Winston Peters is going to bow to you on this one, I suspect you are wrong. He has his own voters to consider, and most of those are fairly conservative people who think we take enough refugees as it is.

The last government found out the cold, hard facts about MMP when neither the Maori Party nor United Future would support their RMA reforms, which would have made a huge difference to the number of houses being built. But they refused anyway.

And why exactly would Winston Peters support her crazy socialist ideas when he can bring the government to its heels any time he likes?

If Cindy insists on going public with her views on this subject, I suspect it is not going to end well.

This is what you get for selling your soul to Winston Peters. Not that she had a choice.

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The signs are there , Cindy's not coping , missing again in parliament and now this , Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has cancelled her planned appearances on both Newshub Nation and TVNZ's Q+A this weekend, saying there was an issue with her diary. It's the third time the Prime Minister has pulled out of a scheduled interview with Newshub Nation in the past year .

The pressures are growing , not showing up on a program like Q&A is a real tip on how she's going , it won't be long before she starts talking a little slower , that's the tranquilizers kicking in , I recon Obama was full of them on occasions , the long pauses were described as being thoughtful but more likely sedation , watch out for Cindy she's headed down the same track .

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Cindy running scared

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Jacinda Ardern seems to be running scared of serious current affairs shows at the moment. Quote:

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has cancelled her planned appearances on both Newshub Nation and TVNZ’s Q+A this weekend, saying there was an issue with her diary.

Ms Ardern’s chief press secretary told Newshub Nation on Wednesday the Prime Minister would not be appearing on the show because he got the date of the interview wrong.

“There’s been bit of a diary issue in my team. There’s no question I remain very much available for any issue of the day,” Ms Ardern said on Thursday.

“This was a simple diary issue.” Quote:

Sounds like an incompetence issue, or a Scaredy Cat issue. Cindy needs to pull on her big girls undies and front up instead of only ever doing soft interviews with kindy kids in abundance. Quote:

It’s the third time the Prime Minister has pulled out of a scheduled interview with Newshub Nation in the past year. The other interviews were planned for August and February. End quote.

Once is a diary issue, twice is carelessness and three times is gutlessness. Someone is too scared to talk about Clare Curran, Meka the Muss and Winston Peters domination of a weak prime minister.

On the plus side she had handed the audience of The Nation, reputed to be three fifths of five eights of fuck all, to Simon Bridges.

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Ardern's dysfunctional government now corroding our sporting psyche !! Warriors lose, Silver Ferns lose, and now the All Blacks obviously emasculated by Ardern and Fishboy loitering at the last test match in Auckland . Can't you call her home to Morrinsville Ted?

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47 minutes ago, chevy86 said:

Ardern's dysfunctional government now corroding our sporting psyche !! Warriors lose, Silver Ferns lose, and now the All Blacks obviously emasculated by Ardern and Fishboy loitering at the last test match in Auckland . Can't you call her home to Morrinsville Ted?

She isn't wanted here either Chevy, believe me!  This is very much a farming community.

Manus Island would be a good place though.  :rcf-laughing-2:  

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It seems Cindy has been a little naughty , trying to be a little sneaky but the elusion , deceit was exposed on an  Ausse program a couple of nights ago .

About 4 years ago Key offered to take 150 illegal immigrants from Manus island , Cindy repeated the offer but forgot to tell anyone she has offered to take 150 A YEAR  , it was stated that if this offer had been accepted 600 would now be in NZ . Perhaps some one should tell Winston .

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