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Roger frederer for wimbledon

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Wimbledon

That's nancy boy territory so the Swiss nancy boy may just go well there. Federer & Murray joint favourites with Nadal on the third line. 

Tennis Debate: Is Rafael Nadal not Roger Federer the greatest ever?

Rafael Nadal

 

Let me guess, you read the headline and instantly thought "hang on, Roger Federer has won 18 grand slams, whereas Rafael Nadal has only won 15"?

But does that necessarily end the argument? Is the total number of grand slams won the only way to judge which of these two legends of the sport is the greatest?

Let's begin by looking at the slams won by each player. When assessing their major wins, Federer clearly benefitted from having a few years before the advent of the 'Big Four' as we know it. Between 2003 and 2007, Federer won eight of his 12 grand slams in the period without beating any of Nadal, Novak Djokovic or Andy Murray along the way, and added two more in 2009 without playing any of those three. A quick glance at Federer's final opponents in those majors shows the likes of Mark Philippoussis, Fernando Gonzalez and Marcos Bagdahtis, who are not exactly tennis heavyweights. 

Nadal by contrast has had to beat one of the 'Big Four' in all but two of his 15 grand slam wins, and in one of the ones when he didn't his final opponent was Stan Wawrinka, a three-time slam champion.

Secondly, Nadal is streets ahead of Federer in the head to head between the two players. He leads the overall record 23-14, and has won nine of the 12 grand slam meetings between the two. 

 

Can Federer really be called the greatest ever when he has been consistently beaten by the man said to be the second best? 

Finally, one of the arguments I often hear used to denigrate Nadal is that so many of his grand slam titles have come at the French Open, as if this points to him being some sort of one-trick pony. 

Secondly, Nadal is streets ahead of Federer in the head to head between the two players. He leads the overall record 23-14, and has won nine of the 12 grand slam meetings between the two. 

 

Can Federer really be called the greatest ever when he has been consistently beaten by the man said to be the second best? 

Finally, one of the arguments I often hear used to denigrate Nadal is that so many of his grand slam titles have come at the French Open, as if this points to him being some sort of one-trick pony. 

Ok. I hadn't read the Swiss Cheese thread before posting the above. Well done Zelda. :)

 

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9 hours ago, rdytdy said:

The Swiss nancy boy did you proud Zelda. :) 

Very offensive post teddy.....zelda and pogo are experiencing some very hard times .

They never  ever bet on RF.....in fact the opposite ,plus NSW suffered a shocking loss in SOO plus Cronulla suffered a shock record thrashing.

The last thing they needs is your stupid smile....they are homeless ,unable to feed their family and are working extra shifts in a pickle factory.

RF just won his 19 th grand-slam , the real Nancy boys are the NSW league team who had a huge drinking session a few days before their game.

You won't be hearing from pogo and zelda for a very long time.

They are not swiss ,they are Finnish.

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