dbtab 95 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Just looking at the field was trying to find Mr Velas runner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Number 9 Eminent. Drawn 4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbtab 95 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 i have found the problem the TAB has EMINENT down with Choisir as the sire and owned by mr mrs Henzell yet he is by Frankel and owned by mr vela Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Cracksman also by Frankel. Big chance. Permian bred to get the trip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,929 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Good luck to the Velas would be good to see something with a NZ connection win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazach 133 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Wings of Eagles wins Derby - by Pour Moi! Dopey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Eminent finished a very creditable close up fourth behind roughie Wings Of Eagles, Cliffs Of Moher and Cracksman. Belinda 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 The highlight was the post race interview with John Gosden, I've never heard a trainer talk so much sense, so eloquently, with such detailed understanding and interpretation of each of his horses efforts, and all with extraordinary clarity and insight. The trainer of the Vela horse was impressive too, but Gosden was special. It's worth watching the best English racing just to immerse yourself in their knowledge and passion. I wish the lobotomised muppets infesting the Trackside studios could listen to the Gosden interview, firstly so they could learn from it ( fat chance ) and secondly, so they might just realize how infantile and ignorant their understanding is of horses as animals, the idiosyncrasies of tracks, and the actual racing. No chance though, NZ racing has long been hijacked by people who know nothing useful about racing, and hence the accelerating slide into oblivion. Belinda, Leggy, Fartoomuch and 7 others 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,961 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 I especially liked it, when Gosden slightly corrected himself at the end of the interview. Such assurance of himself and his horses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,413 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Question; Is Pour Moi the only sire of a Derby (The Derby!) winner to stand at stud in New Zealand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,425 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Golden horn won two years ago and he was by cape cross who stood in nz as seachange was also by him. Galileo, authorized and Camelot were by montjeu who also stood here I believe. Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Sir Percy and Generous were both English Derby winners who stood here in recent times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,413 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 An Irish trained horse that was born on St Patrick's Day; he was the omen bet that overlooked. TOM(the other Molloy) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey 214 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 https://www.racingnews.co.nz/blog/post/18189/Pour-Moi-colt-stuns-in-English-Classic/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckenzie 608 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 8 hours ago, Tauhei Notts said: Question; Is Pour Moi the only sire of a Derby (The Derby!) winner to stand at stud in New Zealand? Do you know if he is standing here in 2017? Couldn't find any confirmation on the Windsor Park website. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,961 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, mckenzie said: Do you know if he is standing here in 2017? Couldn't find any confirmation on the Windsor Park website. He is not, unless Windsor change their minds or someone else thinks it's worthwhile. Dopey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 I must say the winner Wings Of Eagles was very impressive (excuse the pun) when he flew home out wide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
premixer 105 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 10 hours ago, Midget said: The highlight was the post race interview with John Gosden, I've never heard a trainer talk so much sense, so eloquently, with such detailed understanding and interpretation of each of his horses efforts, and all with extraordinary clarity and insight. The trainer of the Vela horse was impressive too, but Gosden was special. It's worth watching the best English racing just to immerse yourself in their knowledge and passion. I wish the lobotomised muppets infesting the Trackside studios could listen to the Gosden interview, firstly so they could learn from it ( fat chance ) and secondly, so they might just realize how infantile and ignorant their understanding is of horses as animals, the idiosyncrasies of tracks, and the actual racing. No chance though, NZ racing has long been hijacked by people who know nothing useful about racing, and hence the accelerating slide into oblivion. Gotta agree. Purchased the Uk racing monthly pass for live viewing of most of the Uk races. Great coverage the whole night, they sure know how to do a premier race meeting right, great interviews, coverage of the prelims, just top notch. shaneMcAlister and Swoopa 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
optical 41 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 On 2017-6-4 at 6:25 AM, Tauhei Notts said: Question; Is Pour Moi the only sire of a Derby (The Derby!) winner to stand at stud in New Zealand? Pretty sure Montjeu comes under that category Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
optical 41 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 On 2017-6-4 at 2:41 PM, Insider said: He is not, unless Windsor change their minds or someone else thinks it's worthwhile. Coolmore probably haven't helped things in the UK by sending him to be a national hunt sire. They might want to change their minds after that! Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
optical 41 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 On 2017-6-4 at 3:15 PM, premixer said: Gotta agree. Purchased the Uk racing monthly pass for live viewing of most of the Uk races. Great coverage the whole night, they sure know how to do a premier race meeting right, great interviews, coverage of the prelims, just top notch. You meaning they don't cut the feed to go to the maiden trotting race in timbucktoo? Totally agree, so much more exciting when there is focus on the one meeting with good interviews and paddock reviews etc Swynford 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattski 176 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 Apparently Pour Moi only served 59 mares in 2016 - thought he would have served more after Sacred Elix won a Group 1. Windsor also have 8 other sires for 2016! Some of the Pour Moi's are a bit slow maturing apparently but at least he can throw a top horse! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... 226 Report post Posted June 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Mattski said: Apparently Pour Moi only served 59 mares in 2016 - thought he would have served more after Sacred Elix won a Group 1. Windsor also have 8 other sires for 2016! Some of the Pour Moi's are a bit slow maturing apparently but at least he can throw a top horse! Probably stood him at to higher fee really last spring and has had fertility issues. Overall record isn't great but does have the ability to sire decent horses for sure. Windsor have looked to invest more in their own stallions than the shuttlers in recent times shaneMcAlister and Dopey 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted June 6, 2017 If you're into one good one every 100 foals then feel free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... 226 Report post Posted June 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Berri said: If you're into one good one every 100 foals then feel free. Yeap a reason why he's on the National Hunt roster now, and obviously this was decided before the Derby A Derby winner in UK and a G1 winning Derby placegetter In Australasia but not a lot else of real depth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...