Valmagne

[Clapp 2]

Valmagne needs to be retired 135 starts 

Cant win a nil field at Manawatu and hasn't won in more than a year

Feel bad for the old fella only having one actual spell in his years as a race horse

Craig Kennett needs to pick up his big gut and give the old boy a retirement

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Clapp said:

Valmagne needs to be retired 135 starts 

Cant win a nil field at Manawatu and hasn't won in more than a year

Feel bad for the old fella only having one actual spell in his years as a race horse

Craig Kennett needs to pick up his big gut and give the old boy a retirement

To be fair, Valmagne is still earning money at the moment even though he is clearly past his best!

There are a hell of a lot less talented  horses that shouldn't be in work than Valmagne.

Hard to fathom why some owners persevere with certain horses when they have next to no ability and often they are also driven by people who have just as much ability!

 

[Varro 244]

He is one of the few trotters I have followed and it certainly seems like he hasn't had a rest in a very long time

[Clapp 2]

1 hour ago, Varro said:

He is one of the few trotters I have followed and it certainly seems like he hasn't had a rest in a very long time

Only 1 three months spell

[Guest]

Valmagne is certainly an "iron horse,.

Not knocking the current trainer or caretaker trainers, but you would have to wonder how good these good horses that do a good job from smaller stables would go coming out of the larger stables with better UDRs?

 

[Clapp 2]

36 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Valmagne is certainly an "iron horse,.

Not knocking the current trainer or caretaker trainers, but you would have to wonder how good these good horses that do a good job from smaller stables would go coming out of the larger stables with better UDRs?

 

Exactly someone like tim butt it could have been anything

[BackPoonDrinkGoon 93]

1 hour ago, Clapp said:

Exactly someone like tim butt it could have been anything

Like Daryl Boko? Tim Butt may have been a good trainer when he had free reign but definitely isn't these days. 

[Varro 244]

6 hours ago, BackPoonDrinkGoon said:

Like Daryl Boko? Tim Butt may have been a good trainer when he had free reign but definitely isn't these days. 

I don't understand your criticism of Daryl boko, he's won over a couple of hundred thousand and came 4th in a group 1 the other night. Nothing wrong with that I would have thought

[Clapp 2]

8 hours ago, BackPoonDrinkGoon said:

Like Daryl Boko? Tim Butt may have been a good trainer when he had free reign but definitely isn't these days. 

35 trotting grand circuit races

Trained nz best trotter Lyell creek and has an unmatched record 

8 dominions

3 Cambridge flying mile

 4 Ashburton flying mile  

1 Cambridge Trotting flying stakes  

 2 Canterbury park trotting cups

4 City Of Sails Free-For-All  

3 DG Jones Memorials 

1 Kaikoura trotter free for all

2 Lyell creek stakes

4 National Trots    

3 NZ trotting champs

5 Nz Free for all

3 Ordeal Trotting cups  

4 Rowe Cups  

1 Hamiltonian classic   

1 3y.o Jewels  

1 Trotting derby     

1 Northern derby     

1 NZ sire stakes trotting champs  

1 PGG Yearling sales trot              

1 4y.o Jewels                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    

[WhoKnows 791]

I don't know if he needs retiring just yet, but the poor horse deserves a decent spell at least, seems to be in at every possible meeting available to him, is it greed or something else?

 

[Clapp 2]

1 minute ago, WhoKnows said:

I don't know if he needs retiring just yet, but the poor horse deserves a decent spell at least, seems to be in at every possible meeting available to him, is it greed or something else?

 

9 Y.o Old 

135 Starts feel bad for the old fella

[Varro 244]

You could put this same point across to a number of trotters though. Look at a horse like danke, often racing twice in one night

[eljay 1,720]

Moment of Truth - 14 year old - 196 starts - and still going strong and has won one race this season as a 14 year old.      Valmagne still at kindy - only 9 years old!

[Guest]

In Oz they can have over 300 starts and race 3 times in a week each and every week

[Slim Dusty 14]

He would always have a retirement home at my place - in Sunny Northland :-)

[final luca 189]

a decade or two or three ago.. he would be classed as a young horse.. trotters around , then racing well into 14/15 + years.

and did quite okay...

think craig and josh have done well with this horse and 2 or 3 wins left in it for sure.

[richie 1,027]

On 4/11/2017 at 0:01 PM, Clapp said:

Valmagne needs to be retired 135 starts 

Cant win a nil field at Manawatu and hasn't won in more than a year

Feel bad for the old fella only having one actual spell in his years as a race horse

Craig Kennett needs to pick up his big gut and give the old boy a retirement

Dont you hate that when you dis on a horse and he wins less than a week later.

[JackSprat 947]

1 hour ago, richie said:

Dont you hate that when you dis on a horse and he wins less than a week later.

And then less than an hour later the all-conquering Kennett stable further silenced the doubters by winning the second leg of an inter-island double with Veneto at The Mot!

[LongOwner 217]

Shows the new rating system is working and good for the solid "bread and butter "horse which makes sure days like today attract competitive and good sized fields!

[Guest]

12 hours ago, JackSprat said:

And then less than an hour later the all-conquering Kennett stable further silenced the doubters by winning the second leg of an inter-island double with Veneto at The Mot!

To be fair, the driver change made a hell of a difference!

[shapiro 30]

in regards to valmagne, they obviously know what they are doing, i thought he was absolutely no show in monbets rowe cup, if you look at where he was on the fence you would have written him off and then that fricken huge finish!! he was obviously well set for that, if he had of been in a better position he would have pushed monbet very close, no other horse in the race was making any ground, to me easily the standout run in the race,

very hard to start to armchair second guess the trainers, when some of the runs (especially the rowe cup) have been in the best company and performed above what most people expected, im sure if he was in need of a spell, thats what he would get, the race yesterday may have been in weak company but its still a win and near four grand,  isnt that just good horse placement? at 1-1 in the betting the punters obviously thought so.