Is the Championships a joke because of the weather.

[scooby3051 10,869]

Whats peoples opinions, with all the big money on offer is the Championships not really that now because of the bog tracks they get this time of the year. My opinion is its not necessarily the best horse that wins now just the ones with the ability to handle the wet. Some horses have no chance out there because of the conditions.

At least Melbourne in the Spring some of the big days are run on good tracks.

[Ohokaman 5,825]

Probably fair comment Scooby, although that would have applied to most of the big races over the last few weeks.

The Golden Slipper was ruined, only the first four handled the conditions. The result might have different otherwise.

[mckenzie 607]

It does put a dampener on the carnival, but I don't know what the alternative is. They can't move it to other dates without having a big impact on the other carnivals. It is a bit disappointing watching these top horses go around week in week out on bog tracks.

[Shad 1,554]

Thats the luck of the draw i guess, an advantage to the wet trackers, but when the tracks are dry they miss out, swings and roundabouts.

[scooby3051 10,869]

44 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

Probably fair comment Scooby, although that would have applied to most of the big races over the last few weeks.

The Golden Slipper was ruined, only the first four handled the conditions. The result might have different otherwise.

I actually meant the whole carnival has been ruined and has been for the past years.

[scooby3051 10,869]

9 minutes ago, Shad said:

Thats the luck of the draw i guess, an advantage to the wet trackers, but when the tracks are dry they miss out, swings and roundabouts.

But wet trackers are not supposed to be the the measuring stick... they are for winter tracks..right... how many wet trackers in fairness from the past have been champions..or raced at and succeeded at the elite level...not too many... but I am sure some in here will cry me down.

[Ohokaman 5,825]

The Championships only start this week. The tracks might be completely different if they get good weather.

[scooby3051 10,869]

24 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

The Championships only start this week. The tracks might be completely different if they get good weather.

Yes I know that... but the whole carnival Rosehill and then this one all have great races... and the weather is no good this week either I believe.

[rdytdy 5,341]

 

You have to go all the way back to February 4th to find a good track on a Saturday in Sydney.

11/2   Abandoned

18/2  Soft

25/2  Soft

4/3   Heavy

11/3 Soft

18/3  Heavy

25/3  Heavy

This week  ?

[Berri 2,131]

29mm on Thursday, 1mm for Saturday and Sunday but a hole of 4 hours starting from 1pm on Saturday where it will be cloudy and overcast

[Memphis2 1,078]

Yep rain predicted here tomorrow 

A good drop apparently 

Something by Zaamazaan maybe? 

[Blue 1,095]

When it's dry for a week trainers are complaining their horses are jarring up. We're about to hit April so very few of the true winter gallopers will be about yet. Just get on with the job, there's still $$$ to be won. Only thing that concerns me is with the canned meetings already, is there going to be any winter racing at all? If they're going to move the Cup back to New Year maybe we'd better move the Great Northern meeting back to Easter.

 

[Patiti 274]

1 hour ago, Memphis2 said:

Something by Zaamazaan maybe? 

Al Akbar or from a mare by Al Akbar

[puha 2,177]

Anything with Three legs in the pedigree?

[Peter R S 412]

Or five legs to handle these tracks?

Off the topic, but reminds me of Keith Haub's joke about the 3 legged chickens that were bred to increase production.  But how do they taste?  Don't know cos no one can catch one.

[zelda kratchanova 2 501]

this paste makes me wonders what happened too eton, n0?

[Shad 1,554]

It is what it is, and we can't change it, who ever wins won't be complaining, champion or not.

[We're Doomed 4,855]

I was thinking the same thing myself. What about that $10M sprint thing? That will be a farce on a bog track.

[Trump 2,741]

Of all the Rosehill Group races held these last few weeks, tell me who didn't deserve their win? She Will Reign was favourite for weeks and won the Slipper from another Group winning filly in Frolic. The NZ Derby winner, who is adept on good or bad ground, won the Rosehill Guineas, the Group placed Jon Snow won last week. Winx kicked the crap out of everything. No rough, wet track hackers won - that I can recall. This weekend the  Doncaster  and the Derby will be won by very good horses. So I don't think the opening comment of the thread is valid. The C'Ships will be run wet or dry and the cream will come to the top - as it usually does.,

[aquaman 1,352]

17 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

Probably fair comment Scooby, although that would have applied to most of the big races over the last few weeks.

The Golden Slipper was ruined, only the first four handled the conditions. The result might have different otherwise.

Yes the result may have been different Dave, She Will Reign would of doubled the margin.

[Mattski 176]

I totally agree Scooby. You want to see the best horses racing on good ground not battling through the mud. Hope the track is ok at Randwick on Sat.

Any tips for the Doncaster and the TJ Smith?

[pogo(aus) 876]

when its wet double your bet

go nuts !!

 

[Ohokaman 5,825]

21 minutes ago, aquaman said:

Yes the result may have been different Dave, She Will Reign would of doubled the margin.

Probably right there John. Just a shame Catchy couldn't show her best.

[aquaman 1,352]

It will be interesting to see what comes out of the Slipper this year and go's on with it as 3yr olds. Should imagine most will be out for a spell now with a mind on the spring.

[scooby3051 10,869]

2 hours ago, Trump said:

Of all the Rosehill Group races held these last few weeks, tell me who didn't deserve their win? She Will Reign was favourite for weeks and won the Slipper from another Group winning filly in Frolic. The NZ Derby winner, who is adept on good or bad ground, won the Rosehill Guineas, the Group placed Jon Snow won last week. Winx kicked the crap out of everything. No rough, wet track hackers won - that I can recall. This weekend the  Doncaster  and the Derby will be won by very good horses. So I don't think the opening comment of the thread is valid. The C'Ships will be run wet or dry and the cream will come to the top - as it usually does.,

As I said some will want to cry me down... but there is no doubt exceptions but you must agree...or maybe you wont... that wet tracks eliminate some of the best from having any chance, so you state a few exceptions but overall the racing is not as competitive the fields are stretched all over the place and come home like browns cows... anyway lets agree to disagree... the initial post is not invalid..cheers.