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Jimmy Choux

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I would put it a bit different than being a bit quiet!, he has been awful so far.

48 so far to race for only 11 winners and 1 stakeswinner, has nearly been a month since he has had a winner anywhere.

Family got a nice pedigree update on the weekend though with his half sister winning the G3 Cuddle Stakes. 

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11 hours ago, Dopey said:

Waller has a very good one .

chassure or something like that 

He does look like he has some good ability, has the Mufhasa damline.

Jimmy Choux needs to start producing as he has been given every chance with reasonable numbers/quality and so far has progeny have been very poor with a distinct lack of quality , it looks likely that his books and stallion career will diminish considerably unless something changes.

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On 3/20/2017 at 9:08 AM, BruceL said:

I would put it a bit different than being a bit quiet!, he has been awful so far.

48 so far to race for only 11 winners and 1 stakeswinner, has nearly been a month since he has had a winner anywhere.

Family got a nice pedigree update on the weekend though with his half sister winning the G3 Cuddle Stakes. 

There must be some good Dalghars out there as he has similar stats 47 to race 17 wnrs , 1 stkewnr and the benefit of a NH crop yet they were in demand at the sales.

I guess it helps getting wnrs in Aus.

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Pretty poor stats early also. In his benefit his quality and number of mares has improved so a bit of scope there and as you mentioned  has a couple of handy ones in Sydney. In NZ/AUS is running at 11 winners from 27 runners which doesn't look to bad at an early stage.

Has a big next season ahead otherwise the scrap heap comes a calling for stallions like this. The business is cut throat.

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4 hours ago, Huey said:

There must be some good Dalghars out there as he has similar stats 47 to race 17 wnrs , 1 stkewnr and the benefit of a NH crop yet they were in demand at the sales.

I guess it helps getting wnrs in Aus.

One other thing is that Dalghar can leave a really good type which helps come sales time!

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Heard all this before. Zabeel had a slow year (no comparison by the way) and dare I say Power has not turned things on fire as a two year old yet IN NEW ZEALAND - no more than Jimmy did !

time will out. 

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9 hours ago, Dopey said:

Heard all this before. Zabeel had a slow year (no comparison by the way) and dare I say Power has not turned things on fire as a two year old yet IN NEW ZEALAND - no more than Jimmy did !

time will out. 

Fair point in that it is very early and you cant judge completely especially from a 2yo crop (Power) but Jimmy Choux's progeny is about to complete their 3yo seasons and it can be vindicated that 'so far' they have not trained on or improved at all , you would be very brave if you were to support Jimmy Choux this up and coming breeding season unless there is a big drop in service fee (this season he has had 32 runners for 4 winners in NZ!).

The stud know that they can do no more and are concerned, its now up to the horse and from results so far you would expect that his numbers will drop considerably in the future although he still has some very good numbers to work with in his next 3 crops.

 

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11 hours ago, Dopey said:

Heard all this before. Zabeel had a slow year (no comparison by the way) and dare I say Power has not turned things on fire as a two year old yet IN NEW ZEALAND - no more than Jimmy did !

time will out. 

Maybe the tap has been tuned on, he got a winner at YPUK yesterday.

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18 minutes ago, Huey said:

Maybe the tap has been tuned on, he got a winner at YPUK yesterday.

Would hate that to be the tap! but at least the no winners for nearly a month worldwide tag can be wiped away!

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On ‎21‎/‎03‎/‎2017 at 10:10 PM, Dopey said:

Waller has a very good one .

chassure or something like that 

Chaussure's full brother (Bostonina) debuts today at Avondale, won his trial very well and looks to have inherited some of his family's ability!

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Jimmy Choux was a great race horse but doesn't have a very strong female line. Not that that means a stallion with an average female line can't be successful, but it is certainly one of the key things to look at when deciding on a stallion. Shocking also doesn't have a very strong female line and is doing well enough. Dalghar has a very strong female line, albeit he wasn't a 'top' race-horse.

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2 hours ago, BruceL said:

Chaussure's full brother (Bostonina) debuts today at Avondale, won his trial very well and looks to have inherited some of his family's ability!

Nice win also 

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20 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Now we can say 2 midweek winners for the month! 

Nice win today, the stallion will be relying on him to step up as a 3yo next year and on that looks capable.

Interesting that Keepa Cheval the Keeper half sister to Mufhasa looks to have produced the 2 most promising Jimmy Choux's around.

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1 hour ago, BruceL said:

Now we can say 2 midweek winners for the month! 

Nice win today, the stallion will be relying on him to step up as a 3yo next year and on that looks capable.

Interesting that Keepa Cheval the Keeper half sister to Mufhasa looks to have produced the 2 most promising Jimmy Choux's around.

Some mares leave good horses by anything...

Egyptian Queen by Karoi lad (sp) produced three million dollar earners (one might be in $HK I think) by three differ stallions - and not top draw ones either...

Egyptian reign by desert sun group one winner 

Egyptian ra by woodborough group one winner 

And one by al Akbar (can't remember it's name)

Pure mare power! 

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