Midget 4,489 Report post Posted February 27, 2017 Anyone from Auckland going along to listen to John Allen talk a whole lot of non factual fairy tales, fabrications, fallacies, and fantasies Friday at Ellerslie ?. It's at 3 o'clock if you're interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMD is rife 211 Report post Posted February 27, 2017 Most racing people will be playing golf at Pukekohe! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted February 27, 2017 I'm sure he will have a positive message ! A new CEO for the 2017/18 Racing Year !! To build on the magnificent achievements of the incumbent. It's all roses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz (NZ) 1,719 Report post Posted February 27, 2017 Heard enough on Saturday at Matamata!.... Thought I was listening to Walt Disney! Midget and Memphis2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wok Belly 4 Report post Posted February 27, 2017 Maybe someone can ask him to list his achievements at nzrb. That will fill a short gap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted February 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Wok Belly said: Maybe someone can ask him to list his achievements at nzrb. That will fill a short gap. Why stop there, include NZ Post and MFAT too, you wouldn't be detained long Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck"s 40 Report post Posted February 28, 2017 You going along Midget ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Beck"s said: You going along Midget ?? Of course, and I'm armed with some interesting questions, the details of which will be published here on Cafe after the event, and which will horrify you. Kane T 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck"s 40 Report post Posted February 28, 2017 He will hammer you down with stats...going to to do this and that...Hopefully he will have taken his ADD and ADDh medication to slow him down so you can understand what hes saying !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wok Belly 4 Report post Posted March 2, 2017 Good luck today Midget Memphis2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted March 2, 2017 55 minutes ago, Wok Belly said: Good luck today Midget I won't be terrorizing him, just trying to get him to commit to some bridging funding for the industry why these strategies are being implemented, and a commitment that he'll resign if he doesn't deliver on the 15 million racefields legislaton ( my sources say 10 is the correct figure ) or the 50 million return from the new F/O platform. He won't offer to fall on his sword though because turkeys very seldom vote for an early Christmas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted March 2, 2017 Midget - I have seen this guy on TV. He is very animated with his hands so ask him what he would do in a bondage session if his hands were cuffed behind his back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck"s 40 Report post Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, von Smallhaussen said: Midget - I have seen this guy on TV. He is very animated with his hands so ask him what he would do in a bondage session if his hands were cuffed behind his back? Take a tape-recorder Midget as that guy speaks so fast you want keep up with your short hand in order to report back !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted March 2, 2017 I've heard him speak before...he makes a lot of noise but doesn't say much..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 I have just found out the number of employees at NZRB, This is the list Permanent full time=488 Permanent Part Time===========270 Fixed Term===================37 Causal======================78 Total========================873 If you look in Seek,there are another 15 job applications for positions.This appears an obscene number to run an Industry Board,then on top of that you have various consultants being employed,I say unbelievable and it is clearly out of control. SNR hedley, chevy86 and Trump 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wok Belly 4 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 Wouldn’t a split by salary bracket be a more interesting read, they will report they have reduced employee numbers because they closed Phonebet. Only to re-fill the pot with FROGS as somebody said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck"s 40 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 Has the meeting finished yet Midget ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 Ok, I missed the first 45 minutes but here's my summary based on what I heard him say ( Tasman Man and others can fill in the gaps ). He swears we're on track to prosperity and he'll resign if he's wrong ( can't member the time lines there but TM might help ). He swears the numerous consultants they're using are developing new strategies to keep new clients punting, he didn't expand on the methodology of that and he couldn't provide a rational answer as to why all the graphs were heading south if these marketing gurus were doing such a great job. He said that contracting group Eleven no longer consulted and the year to date cost for them was $385,000. He said the $45,000 spent on the three tables for the Lions games was money well spent to endear high rolling clients who were being aggressively courted by multinational betting agencies. I didn't ask the question but when someone else did he said Dennis Quirke was a sensible appointment and he had no issue with his "history", but that they'd put mechanisms in place to minimize the risk he'd reoffend. Apart from that he was plausible and in his own way quite charming, but a bit too slippery to warrant a cuddle at the end though. My summary, more of the same, lots of noise, but not a lot of substance, just more "trust me, I've got this.." sort of thing. One thing he did say to me privately was that these leaks coming from head office were disappointing, and that he didn't approve of the amount or the quality and accuracy of the information being leaked, and he wanted it to stop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,759 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 47 minutes ago, Midget said: Ok, I missed the first 45 minutes but here's my summary based on what I heard him say ( Tasman Man and others can fill in the gaps ). He swears we're on track to prosperity and he'll resign if he's wrong ( can't member the time lines there but TM might help ). He swears the numerous consultants they're using are developing new strategies to keep new clients punting, he didn't expand on the methodology of that and he couldn't provide a rational answer as to why all the graphs were heading south if these marketing gurus were doing such a great job. He said that contracting group Eleven no longer consulted and the year to date cost for them was $385,000. He said the $45,000 spent on the three tables for the Lions games was money well spent to endear high rolling clients who were being aggressively courted by multinational betting agencies. I didn't ask the question but when someone else did he said Dennis Quirke was a sensible appointment and he had no issue with his "history", but that they'd put mechanisms in place to minimize the risk he'd reoffend. Apart from that he was plausible and in his own way quite charming, but a bit too slippery to warrant a cuddle at the end though. My summary, more of the same, lots of noise, but not a lot of substance, just more "trust me, I've got this.." sort of thing. One thing he did say to me privately was that these leaks coming from head office were disappointing, and that he didn't approve of the amount or the quality and accuracy of the information being leaked, and he wanted it to stop. Sounds like Trump..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, Ohokaman said: Sounds like Trump..... No, Trump is a 6'3" cock, & he's not worth pissing on ( that's Donald not our resident Ernie ) I hate to say it ( because I like to think I can see bad in most people ) but John Allen is very likeable, he's plausible, loquacious, and quite charming. I kind of hope he'll be the one who turns it all around, but I'm getting a bit old and cynical now so I'm not getting too excited. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecithin 429 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 41 minutes ago, Midget said: He swears we're on track to prosperity and he'll resign if he's wrong ( can't member the time lines there but TM might help ). $45M extra profit to be distributed in the 18/19 season and $60M extra profit in the 19/20 season. 43 minutes ago, Midget said: He swears the numerous consultants they're using are developing new strategies to keep new clients punting, he didn't expand on the methodology of that and he couldn't provide a rational answer as to why all the graphs were heading south if these marketing gurus were doing such a great job. I'd suggest the strategy is to give inactive accounts a $5 free bet every month that when they spend it they become "active" clients. He admitted this was "loss making" initially, but would be profitable when all these customers keep betting - time will tell if they do, but I doubt it. They currently have 180k account customers and half of them are inactive and this is why he thinks they can double active customer by "re-engaging" with the account customers that no longer bet. I think he's missing the point of why 90k of their customers don't bet with them and a $5 free bet every month isn't going to change this. 46 minutes ago, Midget said: Apart from that he was plausible and in his own way quite charming, but a bit too slippery to warrant a cuddle at the end though. My summary, more of the same, lots of noise, but not a lot of substance, just more "trust me, I've got this.." sort of thing. One thing he did say to me privately was that these leaks coming from head office were disappointing, and that he didn't approve of the amount or the quality and accuracy of the information being leaked, and he wanted it to stop. Yep it was just more of the same. If you went to the meeting with no background and listened to him you'd think he's got it under control and great times are ahead. Unfortunately we've heard it all before.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck"s 40 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 "When I came into the industry I had no prior racing knowledge of it or of betting so I am very much better equipped now than I was then.....etc " read his John Allens interview in today's Informant.. I dont doubt for one moment his heart and soul are in the job but 2 years down the track of the apprenticeship its been a very costly exercise while John learns the ropes !!! What does Glenda not understand about employing people with a proven track record from within the industry... Except Dennis the menace of course !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 On 2/27/2017 at 7:34 PM, Midget said: Anyone from Auckland going along to listen to John Allen talk a whole lot of non factual fairy tales, fabrications, fallacies, and fantasies Friday at Ellerslie ?. It's at 3 o'clock if you're interested. Your alliteration alone almost 'ad me attending...:) Cubes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Midget said: Apart from that he was plausible and in his own way quite charming, but a bit too slippery to warrant a cuddle at the end though. ffs why do you think he is there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,005 Report post Posted March 3, 2017 12 hours ago, Midget said: if he doesn't deliver on the 15 million racefields legislaton ( my sources say 10 is the correct figure ) or the 50 million return from the new F/O platform. I'd say 15m is 100/1 and 10m across codes 10/1, from the best research on this that I have seen even if the full legislation change they want occurs, which I think is unlikely Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...