pete 492 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 Someone has posted elsewhere that they are going their separate ways. To me they are one of the most reliable stables for churning out winners with a relatively small team. THE TORCH 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 Was just reading Williams is trimming his team as it's not financially workable with the numbers he has and more will be doing the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 Reading where? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Leggy said: Reading where? Turf Connect FB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,945 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 What is "Turf Connect FB"? I tried to Google it and all I got was people who grow turf for lawns etc. I need some help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,995 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 Great strike trainers. Hope that these reports are wrong! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Insider said: What is "Turf Connect FB"? I tried to Google it and all I got was people who grow turf for lawns etc. I need some help. I agree. You seriously need help. https://www.facebook.com/Turf-Connect-284935031678487/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,945 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 Thank you Leggy, you have been a big help. My friend from the north said, that you are know as Wikilegge, so I knew that I could count on your help to get the right answer. Gordy55 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM 225 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 I note this morning that I have had a face book notification from Richards Racing, this use to be Williams Richards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Option 63 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 Perhaps if big Pete was a better communicator with his owners he might have a few more in the stable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Rookie 52 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Nice Option said: Perhaps if big Pete was a better communicator with his owners he might have a few more in the stable. I think you'll find he has too many . That's what he said anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Option 63 Report post Posted February 7, 2017 point taken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted February 8, 2017 Pity they hadn't listened and addressed these issues for the collective good of the industry five years ago. Nothing that's happening now is new, it's been insidiously creeping up on us, and it's only going to get worse, much worse. These guys ( the Williams duo that is ) should've been taking supporting action to initiate change a long time ago. Pity the Trainers Assn hasn't mobilized these heavyweights of the industry before now, before it's too damn late. http://www.nzracing.co.nz/News/20853/Hard-times-forces-difficult-decision.aspx Leggy, Huey and Belinda 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contentious 598 Report post Posted February 8, 2017 I find it hard to believe that NZTR break this news. Do they not realise that it is part their fault due to policies implemented over the past few years that have led to this happening? Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,825 Report post Posted February 8, 2017 True Contentious. Hardly goes with the CEO statement does it....? CEO’s Message I am committed to building on NZTR’s leadership role in thoroughbred racing in New Zealand and to see further improvements for industry participants and stakeholders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Contentious said: I find it hard to believe that NZTR break this news. Do they not realise that it is part their fault due to policies implemented over the past few years that have led to this happening? "part their fault"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny 1,224 Report post Posted February 8, 2017 Given their strike rate, it is impossible to work out who is making a living training - very few sadly puha, pete and gubellini 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,865 Report post Posted February 8, 2017 7 hours ago, Midget said: Pity they hadn't listened and addressed these issues for the collective good of the industry five years ago. Nothing that's happening now is new, it's been insidiously creeping up on us, and it's only going to get worse, much worse. These guys ( the Williams duo that is ) should've been taking supporting action to initiate change a long time ago. Pity the Trainers Assn hasn't mobilized these heavyweights of the industry before now, before it's too damn late. http://www.nzracing.co.nz/News/20853/Hard-times-forces-difficult-decision.aspx And what did the mobilized heavyweights do???? Not being cynical but it looks from outside they added sweet FA to the cause...or is there more coming??? Pam Robson and Turny 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny 1,224 Report post Posted February 9, 2017 There is no more coming Scoobs - the industry is fooked and they abrogated the power to those who know they will do nothing jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,995 Report post Posted February 9, 2017 Trainers are voting with their feet. Expect at least one leading North Island trainer to move to Victoria before the end of the season. Also more C.D. trainers moving north. Turny, pete and Kent 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted February 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, gubellini said: Trainers are voting with their feet. Expect at least one leading North Island trainer to move to Victoria before the end of the season. Also more C.D. trainers moving north. Whats the purpose of moving north ? Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 492 Report post Posted February 9, 2017 And who can blame them? They're trying to run a business where the overheads are exponentially outweighing the rewards. Serious wake up call when top strike rate trainers start downsizing. Unfortunately waking up the brain dead administrators and troughers is a lost cause. Kent and puha 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 492 Report post Posted February 9, 2017 And seriously how long is Tony Pike going to stick around here? The guy is brilliant and Aussie must beckon right now. Turny and Kent 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 492 Report post Posted February 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, puha said: Whats the purpose of moving north ? Yep honestly you might as well move South. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted February 9, 2017 I can't see how you can make a living from training fees alone it's just not possible. I'd suggest most trainers are subsiding their own businesses one way or the other. Either by having another income source , selling off stock etc What else can they do when training fees and stakemoney just don't cover costs. It's getting to the point where many are saying what's the point I'm working my ass of for zero rewards even if I strike a half decent horse it will only buy time not change circumstances. Stakes need a huge increase NOW not tomorrow or next year blah blah blah. pete and Aaron Bidlake 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
