Midget 4,489 Report post Posted January 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Phantom said: One of the things Allan and Hughes should be held accountable for is the decision to outsource their fixed odds. It defies belief that the company that has a licensed monopoly on fixed odds betting in a relatively wealthy country is incapable of providing its customers with a decent product. Rather than hire the right people who could help them offer a decent product they choose to hire an overseas company (Paddy Power) to manage their fixed odds operation. It is shameful and an indictment on the management of the TAB. We knew they had little understanding of the industry. This decision proves that. I'm pretty sure that's a key element in this, the straw that broke the camel's back as they say Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,425 Report post Posted January 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Midget said: I neglected to mention this is in the first instance about ( amongst other things ) opposing the Paddy Power deal and preventing the NZRB spending 90 million of industry money on a new F/O betting platform ( as distinct from outsourcing to Tabcorp which would cost nothing other than jobs in Petone ). There's about 50 million difference in the two deals but "slippery" John and the NZ "raping" board want their fancy 1000 option F/O platform and they seem to think that we don't need the 50 million, nor do we need their staff numbers and retail footprint reduced by half, and what is more they think they have a mandate to spend 90 million we haven't got building something we don't need for customers who don't care. I have gone on about a fixed odds platform being able to do for less than $5M (maybe less than $1M), I don't know exact figure but could find out if required. However I know a guy that has successfully set up two of them and sold them, one was brought out by Paddy Power and the other by Crown. So they were first rate platforms. You do not build something to fit into your current system (dinosaur). You build something new. I am happy to contact my friend to discuss this with him if needed/required? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 will the TAB frame a market for those that may not have a job come March? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 If they outsource to Tabcorp I suspect about 60% might be looking at other opportunities Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,857 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 Hopefully that will include the demise of one GP... or is that to much to ask... he should have been gone ages ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 He's not in the target group, this is all about the NZRB and their accountability to ( and obligations to ) the TB code. Laurie Sutherland and Turny 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny 1,224 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 I agree Midget - your target is 100% correct - they have failed - totally - but worse they don't care and don't listen ; let it roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,703 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 Is this an open meeting/forum? Are those with "skin in the game" allowed to attend? gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 31 minutes ago, chevy86 said: Is this an open meeting/forum? Are those with "skin in the game" allowed to attend? Invite only, the big 5 clubs, trainers and jockeys associations and the breeders ( I'm not invited ) They'll get the ball rolling, the important thing here is that finally we have a galvanized group who've decided enough is enough and they're meeting on the basis that ultimatums will be given and options considered if the require answers from Petone are not satisfactory. It's a good start. Huey, Kane T, shaneMcAlister and 4 others 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,993 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 It will be interesting to hear what alternative facts the Spin Queen comes up with if she fronts the meeting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,074 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, gubellini said: It will be interesting to hear what alternative facts the Spin Queen comes up with if she fronts the meeting. If I were her, I'd be pointing out that if NZTR continues, year on year, to produce a crappier and crappier product which they expect the NZRB to sell, then good luck to them. Time to move on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Thistle 133 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, gubellini said: It will be interesting to hear what alternative facts the Spin Queen comes up with if she fronts the meeting. Those attending should stand well clear if she attempts a pirouette. And have a bucket handy if she wears a tutu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
awego 182 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 This would make a great Tui billboard 'things are going to finally change for our beloved industry'. YEAH RIGHT! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varro 244 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/88679769/thoroughbred-industry-participants-call-crisis-meeting-despite-funding-announcement good read this. someone like Mr Baker calling this for what it is. 3 million or just under to increase stakes over 2 seasons is just pathetic. Hopefully there will be positive change and quickly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,074 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 34 minutes ago, Varro said: 3 million or just under to increase stakes over 2 seasons is just pathetic. Remember that's for all three codes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varro 244 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 oh shit ok that's almost insulting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 And remember too that Slippery John and Glenda have a not too secret plan to spend 90 million on their unnecessary monumental F/O platform at the mo', and that 90 mill is YOUR money shaneMcAlister and puha 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,074 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 I thought it was 70mil and they've spent it already haven't they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biff 2,158 Report post Posted January 23, 2017 It's all well and good that the ''big hitters' have now approached the lectern and accepted the microphone, but where were you while this was happening? I was critical of Chris Wood, however Chris went up 100 notches when he resigned from the ATA or at least the leadership [am I correct Chris?] and denounced the org as paper tigers, and I'm being polite. This hasn't crept up and bitten you on the arse? or has it? blind Freddy could see this happening, other countries addressed their racing issues, especially over the ditch, God knows the Aussies have their shortcomings, don't we all, however no lack of foresight there when it came to racing and it's future. They recognised the importance of the industry to all, employment, Government revenue streams, etc......but here? Midget has eased up on the CEO, however both CEO'S should go, the buck stops with them, Mr Purcell releasing that strategic plan back in 2011, as the CEO he is ultimately responsible, as for the NZRB, that needs a total overhaul. I'm speaking through my pocket, never again will I believe what I read released from any racing body here, having lost my best owner/investor due to failed plan/s ex the NZRB/NZTR why would I? Our core business funds our racing/breeding enterprise here, no one is holding a gun to our heads, yes. however if there are hundreds like us, well then a decent, informed racing minister should take note of all that Gov revenue lost! Will they? maybe after militant action by the industry, have they got the fortitude? Our Latin American investors are willing to front a Government inquiry as to their reasons for pulling out of a potential 20 million dollar commitment to our industry....and me!..........if only such an inquiry would happen, what do you think? Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted January 24, 2017 12 hours ago, biff said: It's all well and good that the ''big hitters' have now approached the lectern and accepted the microphone, but where were you while this was happening? I was critical of Chris Wood, however Chris went up 100 notches when he resigned from the ATA or at least the leadership [am I correct Chris?] and denounced the org as paper tigers, and I'm being polite. This hasn't crept up and bitten you on the arse? or has it? blind Freddy could see this happening, other countries addressed their racing issues, especially over the ditch, God knows the Aussies have their shortcomings, don't we all, however no lack of foresight there when it came to racing and it's future. They recognised the importance of the industry to all, employment, Government revenue streams, etc......but here? Midget has eased up on the CEO, however both CEO'S should go, the buck stops with them, Mr Purcell releasing that strategic plan back in 2011, as the CEO he is ultimately responsible, as for the NZRB, that needs a total overhaul. I'm speaking through my pocket, never again will I believe what I read released from any racing body here, having lost my best owner/investor due to failed plan/s ex the NZRB/NZTR why would I? Our core business funds our racing/breeding enterprise here, no one is holding a gun to our heads, yes. however if there are hundreds like us, well then a decent, informed racing minister should take note of all that Gov revenue lost! Will they? maybe after militant action by the industry, have they got the fortitude? Our Latin American investors are willing to front a Government inquiry as to their reasons for pulling out of a potential 20 million dollar commitment to our industry....and me!..........if only such an inquiry would happen, what do you think? Midget Jnr has eased up on Purcell,but sure as hell i have not. This guy has done NOTHING to enhance NZ Racing,his brain fade with Mon Tue Racing,giving away prime dates on Sunday just show me his understanding of NZ Racing. Because of him I have leased all but 2 out,as i will not support NZ Racing as long he is the CEO. I miss getting up and going to the beach and working a couple of horses,but this fool cost me 15k on his pursuit of me and all I did was the tell the truth about him AND THE BULLSHIT HE SAID HE HAD DONE. The day he leaves i will enter the ranks again and all the gossip is at the moment i should start polishing my boots,as his time has come and in my view not a day to soon and he can return back to where he came from and go back being the CEO of his companies with no employees. SNR. Grego, tasman man 11, lecithin and 3 others 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...