puha 2,177 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 Interesting to hear this morning that Bill English is likely to get rid of a few useless ministers in his reshuffle and Nathan Guys name was amongst them . If and hopefully he is given the chop who would be a better option as Racing Minister if any? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biff 2,158 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 Isn't Nathan a farmer? Well thats what he said, a man of the land eh? I bet there are some very nervous animals then, I bet he can hand milk though, ....think about it. Memphis2 and puha 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Lobos 139 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 30 minutes ago, puha said: Interesting to hear this morning that Bill English is likely to get rid of a few useless ministers in his reshuffle and Nathan Guys name was amongst them . If and hopefully he is given the chop who would be a better option as Racing Minister if any? ANYONE dock leaf, Phantom, puha and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,841 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 28 minutes ago, biff said: Isn't Nathan a farmer? Well thats what he said, a man of the land eh? I bet there are some very nervous animals then, I bet he can hand milk though, ....think about it. That's why he's Primary Industries Minister too Biff... And given he's the MP for Otaki, you would think he'd be doing a bit more for the Clubs in that area. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 Lindsay Tisch. From a prominent Matamata farming family who have raced gallopers for years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,099 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 Wasn't Nathan Guy going to stand down at the next election anyway? Wouldn't rate on the achievement stakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,099 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 21 minutes ago, gubellini said: Lindsay Tisch. From a prominent Matamata farming family who have raced gallopers for years. He announced in June that he was retiring from politics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patiti 274 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 Why not Chris Finlayson At least he would be able to provide the legal nouse to dismantle the NZRB and get a workable model to replace it. A statutory manager would be a good start. gubellini 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, puha said: Interesting to hear this morning that Bill English is likely to get rid of a few useless ministers in his reshuffle and Nathan Guys name was amongst them . If and hopefully he is given the chop who would be a better option as Racing Minister if any? A piece of wood. Memphis2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 Blue thanks for the information about Lindsay Tisch. Might have to go for gardening guru Maggie Barry. At least she knows the value of horse manure.Seriously the grossly underutilised Hamilton East M.P. David Bennett could be a starter. Ditto Bay Of Plenty M.P. Todd Muller former Zespri Chief and Fonterra Director. puha 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,099 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 Probably few in Govt have a better knowledge of the industry than Winston but he's all for Winston, not the industry. Pam Robson 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 If and when Nathan Guy goes from the Racing Minister position, who is going to ask him, "list the achievements you can claim responsibility for". Surely that's not a hard question to ask. Get him on a TV Show and ask him face to face,. It would be interesting to see his response. Almost comical I'd suggest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBigStuff 398 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 See Bill English is announcing the reshuffle Sunday morning...Id say Guy will keep his MPI/Racing portfolios sadly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porky 900 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, MrBigStuff said: See Bill English is announcing the reshuffle Sunday morning...Id say Guy will keep his MPI/Racing portfolios sadly. Why would he keep his racing portfolio? does sweet FA and would fit on an A4 piece of paper...headed up, Social Set Occassions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBigStuff 398 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 Agree forsure but the polys will see it that he has done a good job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,701 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 A politician is only as good as those below him. ''policy bubbles up from the bottom decisions are made at the top'' Quote from Dean Acheson,Sec of State under Harry S Truman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,551 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, crustyngrizzly said: A politician is only as good as those below him. ''policy bubbles up from the bottom decisions are made at the top'' Quote from Dean Acheson,Sec of State under Harry S Truman. So right. A few years ago I was fortunate enough to meet a lobbyist, his presence paid for by a very concerned local trainer. What can we do, we wanted to know, the industry is stuffed, how can we see it turn around? There was a great deal of discussion, he was very interesting actually, and gave us a heads-up about how the process really worked. He said, to get any action at all, firstly, there has to be an approach by a body with some respectability or substance. Ranting phonecalls and letters/emails of complaint just don't cut it. Secondly, the problem - a specific one - has to be identified. [ The game's fkkd is NOT a position ]. Thirdly, solutions to said problem offered. Next - solutions are not to cost significant sums of money. Last, - the remedy, or action taken , must make him look good. I have repeatedly spoken about the desirability of an over-arching body representing all stakeholders. Complaints from factions - trainers, owners, breeders - all fixated on their own patch, will get no traction at all. The oft-repeated mantra, ' racing, get your house in order ' is as far away as ever. Why would anyone expect attention from the Minister? 12 minutes ago, crustyngrizzly said: 12 minutes ago, crustyngrizzly said: La Zip and Laurie Sutherland 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,841 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 4 hours ago, MrBigStuff said: See Bill English is announcing the reshuffle Sunday morning...Id say Guy will keep his MPI/Racing portfolios sadly. Probably right BS. Don't imagine it is a priority right now particularly if he is going next year. Depending on the election outcome, Winston might get involved again....whether that will be good long term is debatable. MrBigStuff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 23 hours ago, Patiti said: Why not Chris Finlayson At least he would be able to provide the legal nouse to dismantle the NZRB and get a workable model to replace it. A statutory manager would be a good start. Like the local IWI for instance . Really?????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 Nathan Guy remains Racing Minister in Bill English's "new" Cabinet lineup.Oh dear! vanturk1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBigStuff 398 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 On 12/14/2016 at 9:38 AM, MrBigStuff said: See Bill English is announcing the reshuffle Sunday morning...Id say Guy will keep his MPI/Racing portfolios sadly. There you go! gubellini 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 What a joke We're Doomed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 At least the reappointment of Nathan Guy as Racing Minister gives us a degree of certainty. Midweek stakes for Maidens will remain at $7,000 while he continues to hold this portfolio. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,720 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 Obviously not enough, or no, lobbying to Bill by the Racing Board to get a change - that is if the board wanted a change or even gives two hoots. I think the answer is obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Thistle 133 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 There's a whisper that Nathan Guy is in line for Glenda's job at the NZRB after the next election, if National clings on for another term. No mention of whether he'll also chair NZTR, but I reckon Purcell will not be losing sleep with another plodder to deceive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
