Forty 6 Report post Posted November 16, 2016 At the various horse sales we regularly hear commentators speaking of horses having wonderful colt or filly pedigrees. What does this mean and how are these pedigrees actually formulated. I would be grateful if some of you knowledgeable people could inform me of your theories on this matter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty 6 Report post Posted November 20, 2016 I am glad that I a'm not the only one that does not understand these discriptions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBL 32 Report post Posted November 20, 2016 They shall reference core bloodlines which continually influence and dominate breeding known as black-type producers & are the 'top-tiered' or elite families and if you where getting into breeding, this is what you would best purchase on as principle. For instance the 'bruce-lowe, family number assigned to Northern Dancer, Danehill, Halo, Machiavellian & others all trace to Almahoud as dam. i.e. family 2d to produce stallions. Redoute's Choice aka Dancing Show maternal line aka 8f family - a dominate siring family line. Encosta de Lago via Franfreluche is another dominate siring family line. Filly producing families, generally the 'speed' factors come from likes of family 1 - say Monjeu's dam...Floripedes. Elite lines do not automatically mean they are always race-performers as such talk is sales-banter equates to ' a good-type on pedigree'. By the same token race-performance colts , as stallions, are not strictly 'breeders' in the barn. They can be 'effeminate' - those traits which gave them the desired speed. You need the balance of the two with physical assessment - as the rest is 'unknown - caveat emptor! https://wordpress.com/post/thethoroughbredlink.com/1278 an article referencing these dynamics Lot 29 RR. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty 6 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 Thank you TBL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted November 21, 2016 Not quite the explanation... For some reason there are families that produce extremely good fillies but the colts are not as good. The Aga Khan consistently breeds very good fillies but for some reason his families do not breed sires. For all of the very good horses he has bred (and there have been some great colts) the inability to breed a good sire is conspicuous. You might make an exception to Siyounni who is a very good sire but interestingly, his fillies seem to be better than his colts. But someone like Khalid Abdullah breeds very good sires, his best at the moment being Oasis Dream, Dansili and the newcomer Frankel. It's probably something to do with the male prepotency syndrome from bygone stallions because you have to remember that the breed has been created by 3 stallions and 40 broodmares. Dopey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...