Guest Report post Posted October 29, 2016 You have to wonder at times who is driving things at the Bookies desk? Today at Kaikoura The Stonewall Stud Drivers Challenge has Dexter Dunn at 1.05 and next is Blair Orange at $7.20 Of course Dexter will probably win it but don't think there would be anyone prepared to back Dexter at $1.05 and bugger all money on any of the other drivers as they are only running for second. Is there really any point putting a book out on it or common sense would be for a book without Dexter in it and then punters would more than likely have a go. Just an opinion and as you know I like to try and help them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted October 29, 2016 Wow Brodie i agree with you again. That is stupidity at its finest.Dexter will win but no point in backing him but an option with him out adds some interest.But they probably put Blair out at 1.10 in that.lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatime 323 Report post Posted October 29, 2016 If it was me I would look to make it Dexter vs every other driver grouped together in a head to head. Happy Sunrise 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, richie said: Wow Brodie i agree with you again. That is stupidity at its finest.Dexter will win but no point in backing him but an option with him out adds some interest.But they probably put Blair out at 1.10 in that.lol Richie, yes I am normally right but some don't always see it like that as it doesn't affect them. Yes I do go on and on a lot that may piss many off, but always stand up for what I firmly believe in. I don't think there are many on Race Cafe that appreciate what the TAB have done that has affected the restricted punters enjoyment of punting and personal rights unless it affected them and the affect it is going to have on harness racing in the future. Firmly beleive that the leadership through the bookmakers and decision making is certainly grossly lacking commonsense on numerous levels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoHarness 33 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 Even though 1.05 it is as close to a certainty as you can get....... easy to put $20000 on and buy yourself an easy $1000.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 30, 2016 31 minutes ago, GoHarness said: Even though 1.05 it is as close to a certainty as you can get....... easy to put $20000 on and buy yourself an easy $1000.... So you would risk 20k to make 1k? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 2 hours ago, tonkatime said: If it was me I would look to make it Dexter vs every other driver grouped together in a head to head. Far too sensible and creative for the TAB. You wonder why they don't! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoHarness 33 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Brodie said: So you would risk 20k to make 1k? I would'nt but there would be plenty that do that every day and not just in racing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, GoHarness said: I would'nt but there would be plenty that do that every day and not just in racing Better odds chucking it on red or black at the casino to double it than get 1.05 but now into 1.02, get on, yeah right! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantab matt 134 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 Went out to $1.13 after race 1 $1.02 too short Brodie... what price should he be at according to your market?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 30, 2016 19 minutes ago, cantab matt said: Went out to $1.13 after race 1 $1.02 too short Brodie... what price should he be at according to your market?? Should be taken out of the market when they think he will just win! What is the point as there would be bugger all money invested on the option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantab matt 134 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 You didn't answer the question Brodie. another question for you to answer.... take dexter out of market and what price would you have framed Blair Orange? GONSTA 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 30, 2016 Cantab Matt, I did answer the question. If I was the TAB I would not have Dexter included as a driver in the Drivers Challenge. If punters are prepared to risk plenty to win 5 cents on each dollar then go for it, but I certainly believe that there would be far more interest in it with Dexter out. As for Blairs odds I haven't worked it out but he has good drives and will probably run second but certainly wouldn't be 1.05. TAB are pathetically conservative for so called bookies nowadays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantab matt 134 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 Actually you didn't answer either question..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, cantab matt said: Actually you didn't answer either question..... LOL he seldom does. Too busy whinging and moaning. Spikecity and cantab matt 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, cantab matt said: Actually you didn't answer either question..... Cantab Matt, which part of I wouldn't have him in the option don't you understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, Kotare_Hunter said: LOL he seldom does. Too busy whinging and moaning. Kotare Hunter, which questions haven't I answered? Telling It the way it is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 "What is the point as there would be bugger all money invested on the option" The point is that they have framed a market with dexter in it. Just to clarify did you think the $1.05 was too short ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, Kotare_Hunter said: "What is the point as there would be bugger all money invested on the option" The point is that they have framed a market with dexter in it. Just to clarify did you think the $1.05 was too short ? Not sure what the hell you mean by not answering that question, as it doesn't appear to be a question, rather a statement I would have thought! The Flippen point Kotare is that I think Dexter should not be included in the Drivers Challenge when they think he is a dead cert to win it. Not rocket science really that they would get more interest if Dexter wasn't in it!! !! Did I think that 1.05 was too short? Of course not but at those odds how many took him at 1.05. next to none or people are desperate!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, Brodie said: Not sure what the hell you mean by not answering that question, as it doesn't appear to be a question, rather a statement I would have thought! The Flippen point Kotare is that I think Dexter should not be included in the Drivers Challenge when they think he is a dead cert to win it. Not rocket science really that they would get more interest if Dexter wasn't in it!! !! Did I think that 1.05 was too short? Of course not but at those odds how many took him at 1.05. next to none or people are desperate!!!!! Did I think that 1.05 was too short? Of course not but at those odds how many took him at 1.05. Thats a bit perplexing to me given what you indicated prior. If he was actually a dead cert would he have not been paying $1.00 ? GONSTA 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Kotare_Hunter said: Did I think that 1.05 was too short? Of course not but at those odds how many took him at 1.05. Thats a bit perplexing to me given what you indicated prior. If he was actually a dead cert would he have not been paying $1.00 ? Stop being a dickhead! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 Chill out Brodie. Both CM & KH are asking reasonable questions in the context of the thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 30, 2016 2 hours ago, chelseacol said: Chill out Brodie. Both CM & KH are asking reasonable questions in the context of the thread Col. The topic was why bother having a Drivers Challenge when someone is 1.05 Nothing to do with What should Dex have been. Point was who would bother? Pretty desperate if you would bet into that market but then what the hell would I know. Anyway, pretty pointless starting threads when clowns want to be smart! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantab matt 134 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 So now I'm a clown.... nice. Perhaps you would be taken more seriously if you offered some tangible alternatives rather than just constantly bagging everyone. Oh and having Dexter out of the market on this option as you have suggested isn't a real solution as Blair would have been just as short a price Spikecity 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 30, 2016 35 minutes ago, cantab matt said: So now I'm a clown.... nice. Perhaps you would be taken more seriously if you offered some tangible alternatives rather than just constantly bagging everyone. Oh and having Dexter out of the market on this option as you have suggested isn't a real solution as Blair would have been just as short a price Wasn't wasn't aimed at you Cantab Matt. Clown is a loose term of endearment rather than abuse. Humble apology if you took offence! Are you saying I am not taken seriously? Dont bag everyone at all, point out things that I think could engender discussion as if I didn't there would be bugger topics on Harness Cafe. The blog was there any point having an option with a 1.05 favourite? If punters are prepared to take those odds then good on them but they are going to lose over time on those shorties. As it is,Dexter did win but only just so maybe he was major unders. I'm not on the marketing team for The TAB and they don't do me any favours quite the Flippen opposite! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...