Guest 2Admin2 Report post Posted October 30, 2016 1 minute ago, billy connolly said: I've sat on a few decent ponies. On a good track barrier draws are paramount. Statistics are immaterial because on a slow or worse (Van der Hum) track the draw doesn't enter the equation. Did you notice the run last years MC winner got from the 1 barrier? Now you are bringing in another factor - the biggest factor is the talent of the horse drawing the barrier. Barrier 7 has one of the worst statistics for winning but the champion Makybe Diva won from that barrier. The same number that have won from 22. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Just to add a bit of spice, when my partners and I won the Cup with Brew, we drew barrier 24 on a good track globederby12 and chelseacol 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 11 minutes ago, Berri said: Just to add a bit of spice, when my partners and I won the Cup with Brew, we drew barrier 24 on a good track Just to add a bit more spice Berri, ive had a nibble on Wicklow Brave. Drawn the outside and ridden by Frankie whose record in the race is deplorable. It will cover some territory for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Interesting to note that of the last ten Cups eight have been won by entires, with six in a row prior to last years winner being a gelding. In that ten year period six were won by 6yos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Put your glasses away and settle back tomorrow and watch the little staying master win his next MC and add to his recent wins in the Geelong and Bendigo Cups and the Lexus. Almandin for me. (Don't worry about Frankie - it's a blessing he's drawn wide on Wicklow. It's saves him the job of wrenching him off the rails during the run to turn out of the straight, trying to get 4 wide !!! After being out ridden by Michelle last year by going to sleep at the 600, Frankie will want to be 4 wide for the trip!) elbow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Wicklow Brave.....Scary thought that one.....started out as a national hunt flat horse, progressed to hurdling, then went flat galloping. Trainer is a genius and I suppose the race to look at is his last start where at set weights he beat Order of St George who went on to run 3rd behind found in the Arc. That's class. Trip to Paris also ran third in the latest start. I think from memory he ran 5th in the Cup last year. Also of note is him running 4th to Big Orange in the Goodwood Cup at set weights. He was beaten 3 1/2l. Big Orange is now giving him 1kg. Of interest is that the horse that ran third that day won the 2016 Champion Stayers (3200m) at Ascot at his next start. Not a bad pick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 6 hours ago, Berri said: Just to add a bit of spice, when my partners and I won the Cup with Brew, we drew barrier 24 on a good track Brew paid very well on course and at Fixed Odds betting back in the day to thanks Berri much .. Second Coming was equally as good on the tote n return for our investments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2Admin2 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 What was that about draws - 17,23,12,15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phar Lap Fan 104 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 That could be why the time was a bit slow, having to run further! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,087 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 On 31/10/2016 at 7:19 PM, Trump said: Put your glasses away and settle back tomorrow and watch the little staying master win his next MC and add to his recent wins in the Geelong and Bendigo Cups and the Lexus. Almandin for me. (Don't worry about Frankie - it's a blessing he's drawn wide on Wicklow. It's saves him the job of wrenching him off the rails during the run to turn out of the straight, trying to get 4 wide !!! After being out ridden by Michelle last year by going to sleep at the 600, Frankie will want to be 4 wide for the trip!) Where's the party? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 1 hour ago, 2Admin2 said: What was that about draws - 17,23,12,15 Barrier 18 still can't release a winner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 What a little beauty and 26/1 as well for me ! Had Shillelagh going with it for $12,000 - how stiff! However, had nice win and have $13500 going in multi with Harlow Gold in the Oaks. Turny 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny 1,224 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 Trumpy you labelled him and k MC gets bagged often but he surely is the CWJ at stayers races - well done - I am very happy too at a lower level - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,087 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, turny said: I am very happy too at a lower level - You always were a bit short Turny. von Smallhaussen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,841 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 24 minutes ago, Trump said: What a little beauty and 26/1 as well for me ! Had Shillelagh going with it for $12,000 - how stiff! However, had nice win and have $13500 going in multi with Harlow Gold in the Oaks. Unlucky Trumpy...Shillelagh a certainty beaten after that bad start...Jo was then forced into the worst part of the track. She is much better getting home out wide..stick with her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phar Lap Fan 104 Report post Posted November 2, 2016 By the way, was there much publicity before Tuesday, part from Trackside, to encourage new people to racing? I didn't see any. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
