Guest Report post Posted October 24, 2016 Thad Taylor a TAB Bookmaker is appearing on "The Boxseat" this coming Wednesday. I think this a great idea so that several hard questions can be asked of him by the boys! The question you have to ask is why is a GALLOPS BOOKMAKER on when "the Box Seat" is for HARNESS isn't it? It will be very interesting to see if the right questions are asked in regard to odds setting, punters restrictions etc.etc. and whether Thad will answer the questions or kick for touch saying that he isn't a harness bookmaker! Wouldnt it be far better to have Stephen Richardson on seem he is the harness bookmaker and should have more of an idea of what is affecting HARNESS rather than GALLOPS? Your thoughts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted October 24, 2016 I doubt it would make much difference Brodie....none of them are true bookmakers as their history shows. Happy Sunrise 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted October 24, 2016 Only one who had the guts to go on I would say. Happy Sunrise 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted October 24, 2016 Correct Brodie. The whole thing will depend on the hosts. Will they throw some generic questions at him? Will they follow up on their initial questions to delve deeper into the issues or will they let him be a spin doctor? I severely doubt punter restrictions will be brought up as they let someone put $94 000 on a rugby game to possibly win over $20 000. Sounds like a good defence to me but doesn't answer your question. All on Mr Guerin I think. He is the bravest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWMC 69 Report post Posted October 24, 2016 My view on this is that Stephen as the trot bookmaker is more knowledgeable than Thad on harness but not as photogenic or as comfortable on television. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, IWMC said: My view on this is that Stephen as the trot bookmaker is more knowledgeable than Thad on harness but not as photogenic or as comfortable on television. To have the hard questions answered you would have thought that they should have the correct person fronting up Wouldnt you? There are some real serious issues that affect harness bookmakers at the moment and to have a following bookmaker on is a bit irrational I would have thought. Hopefully Thad is schooled up with the correct answers to questions he probably will know about before he fronts up! Dont think it has anything whatsoever to do with being photogenic as all the Trackside presenters are covered in makeup anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblerone 242 Report post Posted October 25, 2016 They should get Glen Saville on there and ask him to justify the deplorable treatment of punters under his watch. Sickopunter and Alittlebitofknowledge 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMD is rife 211 Report post Posted October 25, 2016 Saville has as much charisma as a used tea bag. Alittlebitofknowledge 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwentY$BilL 29 Report post Posted October 25, 2016 My question would be, When there are 2 Friday night meetings is the reason for the odds not opening at the same time to do with them relying on the punters to point out their mistakes on a meeting by meeting basis ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted October 26, 2016 Thought that was pretty good and couldn't expect too much more. A little summary for those who haven't seen it..... Brodie is one of 2 dozen! They even said the restriction level lol! First answer was pretty bizarre that they have to change things manually. Good lord, is this not the digital age! I took from this that if one price goes down they takes ages to change the others. Opening prices at not flash, Thought he said 139% at start but then he went to 135% and then they close at 121%. They seem scared of Purdon and Favourites so they will always be tight. Interesting he mentioned the Risk Team! They might be the tight ones.... also interesting that they have connections in stables to help them! Very interesting really! The opening times inconsistency seemed a little weak. One opens after the after because they move onto the next market....why can't they do both earlier in the day? The influence of punters on the market? They ask how good is that punter, they monitor and restrict through profiling based on long term profits. Odd he said it is profitable to TAB to restrict them BUT also the industry. Thought that needed explaining more. Why the industry? So you can get your restriction price per multi-leg. Maybe that is the way around the restrictions but makes the punter at risk more. Tote is in decline as it is 50 50 with FF. Interesting fact too. Want to know more about the Risk Team!! Overall, no surprise but at least we now know they restrict a select few.....Brodie vindicated! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblerone 242 Report post Posted October 26, 2016 With due respect Happy Sunrise, the restrictions are a fairly well known fact. A wide-ranging expose was done on this issue in a harness magazine recently, complete with interviews and horror stories from a number of restricted punters. I think the 'two dozen' is a little light. It was a figure Michael pulled out of his butt and Thad went with... more likely the number is double that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted October 26, 2016 Thad, did a good job for the TAB? Good to have someone on but why Thad? Said they weren't perfect, which is on the mark! He didn't say how many were restricted punters, if he was a harness bookie he would know exactly how many were restricted to pathetic amounts. The article a couple of months ago in "Harness Express" showed how pathetic the Bookies have got. They phone pub TABs and use cameras at agencies to restrict. The agencies staff get pissed off with having their income reduced due to punters restrictions. If the Bookies carry on the way they are then they will self destruct. Thad stated that the yield,over the past couple of years had improved. No kidding Thad, pathetic odds and shut down anyone that has won over the past few years, of course your yield,is going to improve. Answer me this Thad, has the fixed odds and tote betting combined turnover increased from NZ punters over the past couple of years???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise 554 Report post Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Toblerone said: With due respect Happy Sunrise, the restrictions are a fairly well known fact. A wide-ranging expose was done on this issue in a harness magazine recently, complete with interviews and horror stories from a number of restricted punters. I think the 'two dozen' is a little light. It was a figure Michael pulled out of his butt and Thad went with... more likely the number is double that. Cheers, Toblerone. I am not up with the play most times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted October 26, 2016 Thad did a great job. Of waffling. And giving us a whole bunch of information we already knew or didn't want. Where were all the tough questions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted October 27, 2016 They weren't allowed to ask them ,as Michael alluded to ,so he skirted around them. He looked as though he wanted to I must admit and Im sure they aren't without some knowledge of the state of the nation re the TAB. A complete waste of time to be honest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatime 323 Report post Posted October 27, 2016 16 hours ago, Sickopunter said: Thad did a great job. Of waffling. And giving us a whole bunch of information we already knew or didn't want. Where were all the tough questions? I liken it to question time in parliament, a government mp is never going to be allowed to ask a tough question of a minister. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted October 27, 2016 How do people feel about the fact that they get information from stables? Its hardly a revelation but what would they call this in other industries? Not like they don't have enough of an edge as it is at 140% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted October 27, 2016 Also the 121% he talked of at jump time is often AT JUMP TIME. As in when you can't get on. Like offering a price but saying you can't have it. What would they call that in other industries? globederby12 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shapiro 30 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 missed that episode, does anyone no if its possible to catch a replay somewhere? thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatime 323 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 16 minutes ago, shapiro said: missed that episode, does anyone no if its possible to catch a replay somewhere? thanks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shk3Rxv6k9U Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shapiro 30 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 thanks tonkatime , appreciate that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
