Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Kotare_Hunter said: 119 is almost like they made a mistake lol. 5 mins before the start both win and place were at 124 which is often as good as it gets. How about race 7 place odds? 1.02, 1.19, 1.35................. Wanna explain that one? 4 Divs perhaps? Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 9, 2016 Nowadays the TAB very rarely gives any overs on the place Fixed Odds. Have a look at Addington tomorrow night and no value anywhere from what I can see. Most races have 4 horses paying well under $2 for a place and well under what they should be offering. Can't really see too many having a go early at these odds and I don't see what the TAB is trying to do? Surely they are better to have people punting at reasonable odds rather than just going through the motions by offering pathetically low odds on the first 4 favourites???? Bring back the Bookie who used to offer fair and reasonable odds as the people who are doing them nowadays haven't got a clue! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickopunter 403 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, Brodie said: Nowadays the TAB very rarely gives any overs on the place Fixed Odds. Have a look at Addington tomorrow night and no value anywhere from what I can see. Most races have 4 horses paying well under $2 for a place and well under what they should be offering. Can't really see too many having a go early at these odds and I don't see what the TAB is trying to do? Surely they are better to have people punting at reasonable odds rather than just going through the motions by offering pathetically low odds on the first 4 favourites???? Bring back the Bookie who used to offer fair and reasonable odds as the people who are doing them nowadays haven't got a clue! Why do that? Why not just insult punters and owners intelligence until they find something better to do? Oh that's right, they already did that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 9, 2016 7 hours ago, Sickopunter said: How about race 7 place odds? 1.02, 1.19, 1.35................. Wanna explain that one? 4 Divs perhaps? Lol Not an easy task with incomplete information but using the closing odds for Race 7 fixed odds place was 121 which is not horrible by their standards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Kotare_Hunter said: Not an easy task with incomplete information but using the closing odds for Race 7 fixed odds place was 121 which is not horrible by their standards. You can't take the closing odds Kotare as they change them at the very last minute, and most of the time you would have trouble getting on. The place Odds offered for most of the time is roughly 36 per cent and any with a chance always well unders. When they shorten a horse they don't seem to lengthen out the others to late. Dont understand how the TAB thinks that having the fixed odds so short is going to entice punters to offload? The ones that want to offload are then restricted heavily, if Inhavent already mentioned it before. To my mind if the TAB wants to increase profit they need to increase turnover and they won't be doing it with this totally flawed business plan! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 10, 2016 10 hours ago, Brodie said: You can't take the closing odds Kotare as they change them at the very last minute, and most of the time you would have trouble getting on. Sorry its all I had to go on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 10, 2016 10 hours ago, Brodie said: The place Odds offered for most of the time is roughly 36 per cent and any with a chance always well unders. Your suggestion of 36% is nonsense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Kotare_Hunter said: Your suggestion of 36% is nonsense. Was meant to be 136 per cent or 36 percent from fair value!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Brodie said: Was meant to be 136 per cent or 36 percent from fair value!! Clearly its not that bad hence you are talking nonsense/inventing your own facts.. TheMug 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 10, 2016 42 minutes ago, Kotare_Hunter said: Clearly its not that bad hence you are talking nonsense/inventing your own facts.. What the hell do you mean Kotare? What invention of facts are talking about? The Brodster never invents anything, always tells it the way it is and is always on the money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterEd 328 Report post Posted December 10, 2016 I think the place percentages would be in the 360% to 400% range depending on how close to closing time you are looking for fixed odds. 136% is clearly wrong for place odds Kotare_Hunter and TheMug 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 10, 2016 8 hours ago, MisterEd said: I think the place percentages would be in the 360% to 400% range depending on how close to closing time you are looking for fixed odds. 136% is clearly wrong for place odds Better grasp on reality there MisterEd. I would have said 120 to 130 which falls into the 360 to 390 range before dividing it by 3 and using Brodies way of saying it 20 to 30 percent from fair value. I think he means actual value or actual chance. But no matter what you dont have to suffer 36 aka 136 aka 408 unless for some reason you choose to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlw 2 Report post Posted December 10, 2016 So brodie. Tell us all how much you collected off medusa the other day. Opened at 31s closed at 8s. When you saw those odds you must have been beside yourself ! Brown or White? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMug 53 Report post Posted December 10, 2016 Brodie's proven time after time he was dropped on his head a few too many times as a baby. For someone that claims to be such an expert / pro punter, yet didn't understand what the market % meant when he joined Racecafe. Absolute lying MYTH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 10, 2016 43 minutes ago, Tlw said: Opened at 31s closed at 8s. They probably took 2 each way at 31's and wound it in to 11's. lecithin and WhoKnows 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 11, 2016 7 hours ago, TheMug said: Brodie's proven time after time he was dropped on his head a few too many times as a baby. For someone that claims to be such an expert / pro punter, yet didn't understand what the market % meant when he joined Racecafe. Absolute lying MYTH. Look here Mr Mug. I originally quoted many months ago figures of approx 390 plus per cent and I was advised on here that you divide that figure by 3 for place percentages so that is what I have done that here. Don't really give a rats what the percentages are as long as what I want to invest on is paying fair odds and not the unders they are most of the time. Mug, no idea what you are on about lying mth? But you are living up to your name!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 11, 2016 15 minutes ago, Brodie said: Don't really give a rats what the percentages are as long as what I want to invest on is paying fair odds and not the unders they are most of the time. What percentage do you frame your own market up to Brodie ? TheMug 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 11, 2016 25 minutes ago, Kotare_Hunter said: What percentage do you frame your own market up to Brodie ? Kotare, don't frame any market. Just invest on the horses that I sort out but only if the odds are fair and worth it considering the opposition. Dont just invest on anything just because they are overs. This method has worked for me and is continuing to do so, but it is harder than it used to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 11, 2016 Without your own market how do you know they are "fair and worth it" Tlw and TheMug 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 11, 2016 58 minutes ago, Kotare_Hunter said: Without your own market how do you know they are "fair and worth it" If I am confident of it running a place after looking at the opposition, I know what odds I am prepared to accept! Not fair odds then don't bother. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlw 2 Report post Posted December 11, 2016 11 hours ago, Tlw said: So brodie. Tell us all how much you collected off medusa the other day. Opened at 31s closed at 8s. When you saw those odds you must have been beside yourself ! Brown or White? Brodie, i think you may have missed my question Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 11, 2016 41 minutes ago, Tlw said: Brodie, i think you may have missed my question I'm not racist! What the heck is brown or white meant to represent? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 11, 2016 5 hours ago, Brodie said: If I am confident of it running a place after looking at the opposition, I know what odds I am prepared to accept! Not fair odds then don't bother. Do you place much emphasis on barometric pressure when arriving at your acceptable odds ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted December 11, 2016 3 hours ago, Brodie said: I'm not racist! What the heck is brown or white meant to represent? I reckon you are the closest thing I have seen to Phil Bennett in a long time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted December 11, 2016 5 hours ago, Kotare_Hunter said: Do you place much emphasis on barometric pressure when arriving at your acceptable odds ? What the hell did you mean by brown or white? Barometric pressure, no not really more just ability! The Brodster is always on the money! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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