Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 THE TABLE - after Round 1 1st 3 Chiefs 1114.20 2nd 3 Kauri Kats 442.00 3rd 2 Turbos 959.00 4th 2 Sharks 928.00 5th 2 Blues 921.00 6th 1 Hurricanes 971.40 7th 1 Crusaders 445.40 8th 0 Magpies 1053.20 9th 0 Ferdies 923.00 10th 0 Barbarians 894.40 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
osceola 176 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Well played Kauri Kats nice stayer s run to get up on the line , to the Crusaders an encouraging first up run and we will be a much better team 2nd up next week. Chestnut 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 STATS Best Scores525.80 Sarah M 412.00 Jack 407.40 Maria 402.00 Gruff 305.00 Porky Worst Scores 37.00 Ray 30.00 Tom 18.00 Jenlove 0.00 Pam 0.00 Mr Gee Most Wins 6 Jack 6 Sarah M 5 Porky 5 Bryan 5 Gordy 5 Geoff 5 Maria 5 Ian 5 Pogo Most quinellas 2 Sarah M 2 Alan Biggest Winning Margin407.40 Maria 79.00 Howie Narrowest Winning Margin 0.00 Pam (on count-back) 0.00 Mr Gee Highest Losing Score 286.20 Rex Lowest Winning Score0.00 Pam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut 3,152 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Yay SarahMc.. you broodmare you .. show them how it's done! Great first week to the comp... on we roll.. jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis2 1,078 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Nice Gruff nice Craig Nice Pogo onya Rees. We got there on the line yip yip Well played Ferdies Chestnut and globederby12 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda kratchanova 2 501 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 pogo saysi ;ll never help the biafran lifesavers again, this is more fun well done PJ Peter Jenkins, Memphis2 and Chestnut 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut 3,152 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 1 minute ago, zelda kratchanova 2 said: pogo saysi ;ll never help the biafran lifesavers again, this is more fun well done PJ make sure he doesn't go swimming without his floaters then Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 ROUND 2 DRAW - Sat Sep 3 Meetings wil be Ellerslie, Wanganui, Moonee Valley & Randwick THE CRUSADERS (7th) vs THE CHIEFS (1st) Mr Gee v Jack Tom v Catalano Richie v Casper Rob v Ian Alan v Sylvia THE TURBOS (3rd) vs THE BLUES (5th) Moose v Gordy Sir Gallivant v Geoff Porky v Brian Punter Pete v Howie Viceroy v Pete THE FERDIES (9th) vs THE KAURI KATS (2nd) PJ v Jenlove Heather v Pam Maurice v Sarah Bryan v Sharne Nekky v Graeme THE MAGPIES (8th) vs THE SHARKS (4th) Sarah M v Pogo Ray v Mark Damion v Craig Jason v Gruff Steve v Rees THE HURRICANES (6th) vs THE BARBARIANS (10th) Cam v Steve P John v Sir Castleton Maria v Kay The Crucible v Wrinkles Hesi v Cubes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 19 minutes ago, Chestnut said: Yay SarahMc.. you broodmare you .. show them how it's done! Great first week to the comp... on we roll.. Yip growing well and the bump has obviuosly improved her tipping skills!!! Watching Mickey Mouse with Sam has its advantages with her long priced best bet Chestnut and sir1galivant 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Steve vs Rees?. PJ you wicked person. Wash yr soap out with mouth and water Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis2 1,078 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 gee that game between mr gee and Pam must have been a riveting affair having said it can happen to the best tipsters. sharne and Steve Paul 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted August 29, 2016 Just for the sake of transparency and this is aimed at no one in particular, the team and player draws are free of any input or interference by me. The team draws are made by a random team draw generator while the individual match draws are made by a random generation system also. If you are especially curious message me and I will describe it in detail. I literally have no input. The selection of races each week however is entirely my creation although even with this I have a set system and list of criteria to which I adhere. I am always amazed by the curiosities and "who-would-have-thought" moments that happen in these comps such as last weekend when the two people who scored zero just happened to draw each other. The odds of them drawing each other are 1 in 49 but then compute in the odds of them both scoring the same score (John, help needed please !) and then add in the likelihood of that same score being zero ! Memphis2 and pete 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted August 30, 2016 Sorry Peter, I wasn't inferring you "set it up", completely tongue in cheek, as I am aware it is random, but "who would have thought". No doubt Ziggy will spend some time on his picking this week ,as we have a rivalry stemming back to our golfing days. I can feel the crosshairs on my forehead already. Memphis2 and Peter Jenkins 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted August 30, 2016 7 hours ago, Peter Jenkins said: I am always amazed by the curiosities and "who-would-have-thought" moments that happen in these comps such as last weekend when the two people who scored zero just happened to draw each other. The odds of them drawing each other are 1 in 49 but then compute in the odds of them both scoring the same score (John, help needed please !) and then add in the likelihood of that same score being zero ! Using the stats from the round robin portion of the winter comp, we had 672 sets of picks (48 entrants for 14 weeks) which is not a bad sample size. Of those 672 sets of picks, 25 of them recorded a score of zero. Based on that sample data the probability of a single entrant scoring zero is 3.72% or around 1 in 27. The probability of opponents in any match both scoring zero is therefore 0.14% or around 1 in 722. With 25 matches in any week the probability of having a match with a Nil-Nil score is around 3.5% or 1 in 28. Of course those probabilities are for the population in general. Based on Winter Comp stats the probability of Mr Gee and Pam having a nil-nil draw was a lot higher - of the 25 instances of Nil recorded in the Winter Comp round robin, Mr Gee and Pam had two each. Based on that small sample size for these two you'd say they're both a 1 in 7 chance to score Nil, so 1 in 49 to both score nil in the same match. Peter Jenkins and globederby12 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted August 30, 2016 2 hours ago, N1MUE said: Using the stats from the round robin portion of the winter comp, we had 672 sets of picks (48 entrants for 14 weeks) which is not a bad sample size. Of those 672 sets of picks, 25 of them recorded a score of zero. Based on that sample data the probability of a single entrant scoring zero is 3.72% or around 1 in 27. The probability of opponents in any match both scoring zero is therefore 0.14% or around 1 in 722. With 25 matches in any week the probability of having a match with a Nil-Nil score is around 3.5% or 1 in 28. Of course those probabilities are for the population in general. Based on Winter Comp stats the probability of Mr Gee and Pam having a nil-nil draw was a lot higher - of the 25 instances of Nil recorded in the Winter Comp round robin, Mr Gee and Pam had two each. Based on that small sample size for these two you'd say they're both a 1 in 7 chance to score Nil, so 1 in 49 to both score nil in the same match. I lost you at the bakery John Memphis2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted August 30, 2016 12 hours ago, globederby12 said: I lost you at the bakery John Can you pick me up a tasty Pi ? N1MUE, pete, Memphis2 and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooseman 807 Report post Posted September 1, 2016 On 30/08/2016 at 7:25 PM, N1MUE said: Using the stats from the round robin portion of the winter comp, we had 672 sets of picks (48 entrants for 14 weeks) which is not a bad sample size. Of those 672 sets of picks, 25 of them recorded a score of zero. Based on that sample data the probability of a single entrant scoring zero is 3.72% or around 1 in 27. The probability of opponents in any match both scoring zero is therefore 0.14% or around 1 in 722. With 25 matches in any week the probability of having a match with a Nil-Nil score is around 3.5% or 1 in 28. Of course those probabilities are for the population in general. Based on Winter Comp stats the probability of Mr Gee and Pam having a nil-nil draw was a lot higher - of the 25 instances of Nil recorded in the Winter Comp round robin, Mr Gee and Pam had two each. Based on that small sample size for these two you'd say they're both a 1 in 7 chance to score Nil, so 1 in 49 to both score nil in the same match. Holy Donald Trump toupees batman!! John you surely must of went to Penrose high to talk that school 'c' maths lingo..!! & boy that tuck shop had the yummiest pies & chocolate doughnut's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted September 1, 2016 On 8/30/2016 at 5:25 PM, N1MUE said: Using the stats from the round robin portion of the winter comp, we had 672 sets of picks (48 entrants for 14 weeks) which is not a bad sample size. Of those 672 sets of picks, 25 of them recorded a score of zero. Based on that sample data the probability of a single entrant scoring zero is 3.72% or around 1 in 27. The probability of opponents in any match both scoring zero is therefore 0.14% or around 1 in 722. With 25 matches in any week the probability of having a match with a Nil-Nil score is around 3.5% or 1 in 28. Of course those probabilities are for the population in general. Based on Winter Comp stats the probability of Mr Gee and Pam having a nil-nil draw was a lot higher - of the 25 instances of Nil recorded in the Winter Comp round robin, Mr Gee and Pam had two each. Based on that small sample size for these two you'd say they're both a 1 in 7 chance to score Nil, so 1 in 49 to both score nil in the same match. John what were the average and mean scores from the 672 sets of tips ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOf40 547 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 20 hours ago, mooseman said: Holy Donald Trump toupees batman!! John you surely must of went to Penrose high to talk that school 'c' maths lingo..!! & boy that tuck shop had the yummiest pies & chocolate doughnut's Next time you drive past Penrose High School you will see it is now One Tree Hill College and has been since 2013. Given it's reputation I suppose they had to do something Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 6 hours ago, Peter Jenkins said: John what were the average and mean scores from the 672 sets of tips ? Average was $224 - equivalent to an average loss of around 15% which is what you'd expect with a sample of that size, given the TAB takeouts on Win and quinella pools. Median was lower at $195.5 - a few outlying scores at the high end helped to push up the average. Mean & average were the same thing at my college (and it wasn't much flasher than Penrose High by the sounds of it). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 You must be psychic - I mean't median. Doesn't augur well for my selecting tomorrow... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooseman 807 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 1 hour ago, LastOf40 said: Next time you drive past Penrose High School you will see it is now One Tree Hill College and has been since 2013. Given it's reputation I suppose they had to do something Buggers forever changing things on us .(wheres the bloody tree..!)..... change sux - bring back the old days where you could throw your son a dollar and he would put his own bet on at the races Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Fox 867 Report post Posted September 2, 2016 4 hours ago, N1MUE said: Average was $224 - equivalent to an average loss of around 15% which is what you'd expect with a sample of that size, given the TAB takeouts on Win and quinella pools. Median was lower at $195.5 - a few outlying scores at the high end helped to push up the average. Mean & average were the same thing at my college (and it wasn't much flasher than Penrose High by the sounds of it). Mean and average pretty much describe the Marist Brothers who taught me at Marcellin College Peter Jenkins 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right first time 1,923 Report post Posted September 3, 2016 Shame for the young fella riding Our King Sway ...first race win but clearly gonna be tipped out for cleaning up the favourite Platinum Command earlier in the run home. Platinum Command storms home once balanced up wider out ...one of them there certainty beats that confirms for me why I would never consider being a professional punter. Von Cettes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted September 3, 2016 ROUND 2 Race 1 - Ellerslie R2 1st - 5 Zorrali W-$7.30 2nd - 3 Platinum Command Q-$6.30 scr: 4 1 THE CRUSADERS (7th) 158.60 1 THE CHIEFS (1st) 85.60 Tom (with a quinella) and Rob score for the Cantabs but so does Rob's opponent Ian who snags the quinella to tie it up after one. 0.00 Mr Gee 0.00 Jack 85.60 Tom 0.00 Catalano 0.00 Richie 0.00 Casper 73.00 Rob 85.60 Ian 0.00 Alan 0.00 Sylvia 1 THE TURBOS (3rd) 85.60 2 THE BLUES (5th) 231.60 Sir G gets The Turbos underway but a BB for Gordy and a quinella for Howie ensure an early Auks advantage. 0.00 Moose 146.00 Gordy 85.60 Sir Gallivant 0.00 Geoff 0.00 Porky 0.00 Brian 0.00 Punter Pete 85.60 Howie 0.00 Viceroy 0.00 Pete 1 THE FERDIES (9th) 85.60 2 THE KAURI KATS (2nd) 231.60 Heather gets the 'Naki off the mark with a quinella but Sharne (quinella also and Graeme) hand the early lead to The Kats. 0.00 PJ 0.00 Jenlove 85.60 Heather 0.00 Pam 0.00 Maurice 0.00 Sarah 0.00 Bryan 85.60 Sharne 0.00 Nekky 146.00 Graeme 0 THE MAGPIES (8th) 73.00 1 THE SHARKS (4th) 146.00 Opponents Jason & Gruff make a winning start but so does Sharkie Rees to give his side the early edge. 0.00 Sarah M 0.00 Pogo 0.00 Ray 0.00 Mark 0.00 Damion 0.00 Craig 73.00 Jason 73.00 Gruff 0.00 Steve 73.00 Rees 2 THE HURRICANES (6th) 402.80 1 THE BARBARIANS (10th) 256.80 Wrinkles (with a BB) and Kay kick off with quinellas for the Barbarians morning but all the Hurricanes bar Cam find the promoted winner with Hesi and TC adding the quinella while The Crucible doubled up with a BB. Hurricanes lead with a nice aggregate for them also. 0.00 Cam 0.00 Steve P 73.00 John 0.00 Sir Castleton 73.00 Maria 85.60 Kay 171.20 The Crucible 171.20 Wrinkles 85.60 Hesi 0.00 Cubes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...