come on ref 155 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 Well as from next week 7 th and 8 th places don't get petrol vouchers. When were we gonna get told this bullshit??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 Good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modest mouse 469 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 How can that be good. All or nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 What's it going to do??? More dead dogs, more waiting lists for the people that can wait 8 months to get in!!! Another great idea like getting rid of the 2 people that run the office Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 231 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 1 hour ago, modest mouse said: How can that be good. All or nothing. I truly believe that this sport is about racing to win and the first 3 should only be rewarded, so breeding from top progeny is best and would keep the numbers down cheers WB aquaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 56 minutes ago, come on ref said: What's it going to do??? More dead dogs, more waiting lists for the people that can wait 8 months to get in!!! Another great idea like getting rid of the 2 people that run the office Come on ref get your eyepatch off, what is the 8 months for people to get in? how will it mean more dead dogs what's it got to do with the office restructure? Modest mousy was almost correct when she said all or nothing, they should have included the other 2 in the race Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmissile 409 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 This is a step in the right direction. They are now paying a 4th stake money so something would have to give surely? You should not be getting anything for going around every week getting last, we have to encourage people to get the best out of their dogs, and rewarding worse than mediocrity should not be an incentive. Lets be realistic, if you have a dog you a relying on getting a petrol voucher to keep you going then you should be looking at another vocation. aquaman and Eagle Eye 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogrug 53 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 For a code that increses turnover every year, Why must they take away from there participants? Sounds like they want 1 more group 2 race. I bet the idea came from someone who has a 5 days a week job, not a 7 day a week job like the greyhound trainers do. It's a step in the wrong direction. IT's only a small amount but it helps and still they want to take that little bit away. PS. Perfect time to have 6 dog feilds from now on. come on ref 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modest mouse 469 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 As was mooted a long time ago, put a cap on the number of vouchers per trainer. Slim Shady 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 So those useless c5 and what c4 how far down do we go, that come 7or 8 deserve nothing for the week???'its yet another insult to hard working trainers we don't try and breed rubbish dogs ffs. Yes get rid of the dogs that can't run time. Do solo trials for times to qualify. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmyb 277 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, modest mouse said: As was mooted a long time ago, put a cap on the number of vouchers per trainer. And who does that benefit??? The smaller trainers. They wont have to worry about a cap. What about the bigger kennels. Less vouchers means no guarantee of covering costs. Which means cash will be spent on fuel and vehicle maintenance. Means less money to pay employees alike myself We are wanting to go forward in this industry and we keep taking a backwards step. Who would want a career in greyhound racing when no one can afford to employ you? How are youth meant to buy a property to start a career in the times the country is in today where house prices are through the roof.? Where is this saving getting put into? One more group race. Of which only one dog can succeed and one trainer ajd owner combination benefiting? I think we need to start increasing opportunities to make a living in this sport before its too late to start. JETSUN, Awesome-O, come on ref and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modest mouse 469 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 In my humble opinion the whole industry is up the duff. We're small trainers too. I'm glad we're at the tail end of our racing career, as I certainly don't see any future anymore. Jabba2 and come on ref 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus stop 230 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 Who needs Aaron Gross and his mates to finish off Greyhound Racing the board doing a fine job themselves with these sleepers crossing the border come on ref 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 Is this true ? Or just another leak with miss information ? . A few weeks ago it was put stakes up 10% pay 4th and 5th more don't worry about the rest, last I was told went back to decide . Why do we hear it on here ? I see a top jockey ride 6 winners and make 200 bucks for her time . Is the 3 codes in trouble Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Sharp 224 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 I have to agree with the others on this. Doing away with the vouchers for 7th & 8th placings is a real dumb idea. How are the smaller trainers going to be able to afford to travel to other regions to see if their dogs do better on another track? With the cost of fuel, power, food & rent/land being so high it makes it hard for people to survive as it is now so every little bit helps out even if it is just a $20 petrol voucher. I agree with what mmmyb said about how are the younger people meant to be able to chance to work for a kennel when the owners can't afford to pay them cause they are having to pay out all this extra money now on travel & maintenance. Another dumb idea that they have come up with & comes into effect on the 1st of August 2016 which some of us only found out about on Sunday at Manukau is your no longer allowed to use the backing muzzles that most of the trainers use & you are only allowed to use a smaller backing strap or the home plastic muzzle. This is the sort of stuff that should have been in the latest magazine instead of the that crap they came out with this month. Doing away with the ladies that finished last week who knew what they were doing was a stupid idea cause now we have a bunch of fucking idiots who wouldn't know if it was a monkey or a chimp that just jumped up & slapped them in the face running our head office. Awesome-O and come on ref 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus stop 230 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 Gary be interesting to see if you still have a job on Sunday after your comments on this thread being a paid employee of the industry GONSTA and tonkatime 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Sharp 224 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, bus stop said: Gary be interesting to see if you still have a job on Sunday after your comments on this thread being a paid employee of the industry I'm employed by the club not head office. If head office has a problem with what I'm saying as an owner & try to have me fired well then they can go fuck them self & I'll see them in court for unlawful dismissal. come on ref and Eagle Eye 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatime 323 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 2 hours ago, I know said: I see a top jockey ride 6 winners and make 200 bucks for her time . That's article was lacking a fair few facts to be fair. gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 5 hours ago, Gary Sharp said: I'm employed by the club not head office. If head office has a problem with what I'm saying as an owner & try to have me fired well then they can go fuck them self & I'll see them in court for unlawful dismissal. Good on you!! The way nzgra are going there won't be racing and no one will have a job.its only what we are all thinking.yet again small trainers get screwed over again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 4 hours ago, come on ref said: Good on you!! The way nzgra are going there won't be racing and no one will have a job.its only what we are all thinking.yet again small trainers get screwed over again. How do you say small trainers? Why do people say this time and time again picking on the small trainers to me it's the whole code. With out the small trainers the sport can still carry on , it's when the big trainers are gone is when the game is all done . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 8 hours ago, tonkatime said: That's article was lacking a fair few facts to be fair. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story tonkatime 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 What a load of old cobblers , 4th placing to $80 and 7th and 8th nothing and the world is coming to an end. Gary is going to be without a job and Corey without a house! Get a grip everyone and think of the bigger picture, as McMissile said if your wellbeing and participation depends on getting a voucher for running last it is time to find another vocation. The only ones who really benefitted from the vouchers were the biggest players and if they cannot pay your wages without vouchers they are doing something very wrong . If the sport is going down the gurgler it is more likely because of the pitiful attitudes displayed here not by the association. No matter who has been running it for since day one the "experts" reckon they are plotting our downfall. Can things be improved, yes. Are we getting there yes aquaman, Moany Again, lad27 and 3 others 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONSTA 1,148 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, GOM said: What a load of old cobblers , 4th placing to $80 and 7th and 8th nothing and the world is coming to an end. Gary is going to be without a job and Corey without a house! Get a grip everyone and think of the bigger picture, as McMissile said if your wellbeing and participation depends on getting a voucher for running last it is time to find another vocation. The only ones who really benefitted from the vouchers were the biggest players and if they cannot pay your wages without vouchers they are doing something very wrong . If the sport is going down the gurgler it is more likely because of the pitiful attitudes displayed here not by the association. No matter who has been running it for since day one the "experts" reckon they are plotting our downfall. Can things be improved, yes. Are we getting there yes Agreed. Well said. The attitude of some in this thread is embarrassing to say the least. I hope you've read your contract properly Gary, pull your head in lad. Stop acting like a 13 yr old teenager. tonkatime, lad27, Jabba2 and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 This has to be a joke. So 7th and 8th money gone no increase for sprinters , c0 to c4 get $280 extra and c5 $480 then some extra money in group and feature races. Only some Auckland and wanganui and one for Chistchurch. Feature get $500 . Wow the people going to take a hit are the owners as 4th 5th and 6th is now stakes . No warning goes in a few days, and will be looked at again in 6 months. Hats off to you and we'll done . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted July 27, 2016 What are you on about, you should be called don't know not I know, what does '4th.5th and 6th is now stakes' mean? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...