Bloody hell !!!! This is massive for TB

[Midget 4,489]

http://m.smh.com.au/sport/nsw-premier-mike-baird-announces-ban-on-greyhound-racing-after-special-commission-of-inquiry-20160707-gq0fw3.html

[Guest 2Admin2]

Yes - the do-gooders might start focusing on how many horses end up as pet food.

[Midget 4,489]

It's a good time for jockeys and NZTR to sit down and talk about whips and the use thereof.

This will spread, those who're anti racing will be empowered by this, and that's not unreasonable IMO.

Animal welfare is alive and well in 2016, we might as well get used to it and adapt now.

[Jon Trum 56]

1997 NSW banned jumps racing, didn't end jump racing at all. Let them ban dog racing (it hasn't been passed yet) so what, like I said on the dog thread, if it goes ahead there will be some nice dogs going cheap!

[Catalano 951]

I agree with Midget, it would be very timely for the thoroughbred industry to be seen to be moving in the right direction without having to be dragged there. 

[what a post 811]

The most telling  quote was "no government wants to close down an industry and there are many many  people who have done nothing wrong. They have been let down by their own industry"                         When the queensland report came out a few months ago it was apparent the queensland government gave similar action serious consideration.    While some may think it harsh,personally I find it hard to have much sympathy  for those involved in the industry over there.  Yes you had some whistleblowers, but either those in authority did not care or realised the problem was so big,and involved many high profile names that it was best kept in house.   What mugs. Anyone with sympathy should read the queensland report. The nsw report obviously will make interesting reading.                 "You reap what you sow",  

[barryb 2,064]

Very interesting reading this report is.

Read though the section on social licence (Summary on pages 23/24), exactly the reason why Jumps Racing life is hanging by a thread.

 

http://www.greyhoundracinginquiry.justice.nsw.gov.au/Documents/Report-SCI-Greyhound-Racing-Industry-NSW-Volume-1.pdf

[Catalano 951]

July 8 (ABC) -- The ACT Government must shut down greyhound racing within weeks, the Greens have demanded.

Chief Minister Andrew Barr declared there was "no future for the industry" yesterday when announcing the territory would ban the practice.

It follows New South Wales' decision to outlaw greyhound racing from July 1 next year.

But Green MLA Shane Rattenbury said the ACT Government must move before the upcoming territory election.

"We should be very clear publicly what the timeline is going to be and we should do that soon with the ACT going into caretaker mode," he said.

"We need to give the industry and players in it a clear timeline of the Government's intended movement on this issue.

"We should be taking this decision within the next few weeks to finalise a timeline and then start working with those involved in the greyhound industry in the ACT."

ACT Greyhound Racing's seven board members will meet tonight to discuss their response to yesterday's announcement.

The ABC has been told legal action against the Territory Government is possible.

[barryb 2,064]

I posted this on stuff in response to Aaron Cross's silly statements he made.

Do you eat Chicken or drink milk Aaron?, do you wear clothes made in Asia where you have no idea about whether or not they are produced in an appalling sweat shop child labor situation? No doubt you are also a regular contributor to the numerous charities that phone you or knock on your door?  Do you drive a petrol powered vehicle on your crusade to stop people doing something that you think they have no right to partake in?. I guess those things are ok in your book Aaron because its not for a hobby/gambling and you might be slightly inconvenienced by it.
Good on you Aaron for believing in something so strongly, however if we all operated on the same mentality as you do and banned everything we disagreed with then we would still be in a cave, naked, unshaven and drawing on the wall with charcoal.
Thankfully we live in a society where extreme views like yours are acknowledged but largely ignored in favor of the much more practical approach of working together to find a mutally acceptable solution for all parties, perhaps if you spend your energies more in that arena than pushing for outright banning you would be more successful and gained significant crediblity, than your current situation of being thought of as an extremist loon.

[Midget 4,489]

Barryb, sentiments change, there's a perpetual emotional and philosophical drift in society, that's why we're celebrating the 30th anniversary of the Homo Law Reform Bill right now, because society's attitudes have changed and we are largely inclusive now, and that's made us a better society don't you think ?

Animal rights are no different, you just have to accept that the wider public has no appetite for any form of animal abuse  any suffering, or gratuitous exploitation any more, those days of turning a blind eye are long gone.

The dogs are getting what they deserved because they were so callous, so cruel using live baits tied to lures, and so dispassionate in the way in which they disposed of racing dogs whose careers had finished.

If it's of any comfort the TB and SB codes are not without sin either, and TB in particular should be very proactive on this matter, before the fringe political parties and the animal activists get momentum and make us address what is really an issue that any decent caring human being should be thinking about anyway.

Agree ?

 

 

[barryb 2,064]

Agree entirely Midget, but outright banning stuff is not the way to go in the first instance, its a last resort.

I couldn't care less what happens to NSWGR, but the hardworking honest people in this country who are involved in the industry I do care about. They don't deserve to be lumped into the same category as those in NSW by extreme views shared by Mr Cross.

It is easy in a society such as ours to have views around Animal Welfare, Sexuality, Racism etc when we are not scratching around for the next meal, water or the likelihood of someone popping us full of holes dominating every waking moment. Given the changing face of the Western World and NZ, do we believe that the freedom to express our thoughts on these and other issues will be tolerated into the future?.

[Trump 2,741]

It's all over for the Dogs in Oz. The rest of Australia will follow suit. The best thing racing could do is ban the whip and ban jumps racing. They will be the next target. A little different from what was happening in dog land with live baiting and so many dogs being bred and killed for being too slow. Messara was on to it. The other codes will now be in the gun.

[Ohokaman 5,844]

What's to stop them moving to another State Trumpy...?? They aren't all going to rollover are they...??

[WhoKnows 791]

I love how the horse industry are so sanctimonious and without sin by all the rubbishing you are doing to the dog people, you think that the horses won't be the next target? 

[Trump 2,741]

Qld will milk it as fast as possible. The NSW Greyhound assoc will fight it etc. The Qld inquiry into racing was far more perspective and the conclusions were more positive. The dogs in Qld have a chance and it's up to them now. If they don't improve they will be Out! The next crusade will be to ban whipping. 

[GOM 1,017]

1 hour ago, WhoKnows said:

I love how the horse industry are so sanctimonious and without sin by all the rubbishing you are doing to the dog people, you think that the horses won't be the next target? 

WK, if you read the posts above many do not think that way at all

[chevy86 2,710]

3 hours ago, Trump said:

. The best thing racing could do is ban the whip and ban jumps racing.  

So that would be the end of equestrian events, including the Olympics because after all, cross-country and show-jumping are against the clock. Get a grip Trumpy--there are thousands of owners and trainers who give their horses a far better life than those horses marauding around the Kaimanawas, kicking the shit out of each other and competing for feed and affection. For us as owners the horse's welfare is paramount, but injuries happen in all walks of life. As in the child abuse arena, we need to be vigilant and sanction bad horse owners. As for the whip, there are definitely a few jockeys who are apt to flog a horse which cannot be condoned.

[Ohokaman 5,844]

2 hours ago, Trump said:

Qld will milk it as fast as possible. The NSW Greyhound assoc will fight it etc. The Qld inquiry into racing was far more perspective and the conclusions were more positive. The dogs in Qld have a chance and it's up to them now. If they don't improve they will be Out! The next crusade will be to ban whipping. 

Victoria and Queensland Racing Ministers have both ruled out bans in their States. ACT have said "no future" there.

[ivanthegreat 1,123]

Euchre Nu Bah

[Trump 2,741]

Some say there's no doubt the TB Lobby got to the NSW Govt.

[zelda kratchanova 2 501]

borises sister svetlana rang the talkback radio to see if the trackside dogs were being banned too

mike braird isnt that stupid is he ?

https://tabtrackside.com.au/live/

[ivanthegreat 1,123]

 

They have gone mad !!!

 

 

An animal welfare group has called for an inquiry into the horseracing industry, saying like greyhound racing, thousands of animals are killed because they are deemed uncompetitive.

The Coalition for the Protection of Racehorses (CPR) says about 10,000 racehorses are retired each year but there is no way to track what happens to them.

Each year, about 4000 foals bred for racing never compete and more than 3000 mares are retired from breeding.

"Take away the live-baiting and horseracing has exactly the same animal welfare issues greyhound racing has, CPR campaign director Elio Celotto said in a statement on Monday.

"It's time for governments in each state to take affirmative action because, like greyhound racing, they've shown themselves incapable of self-regulation," he said.

NSW opposition leader Luke Foley has also drawn parallels between the two industries while calling for greyhound racing to be allowed to remain in the state.

Mr Foley said former High Court judge Michael McHugh, who oversaw the Special Commission into the greyhound racing industry, has given recommendations including monitoring the entire life of a greyhound as an alternative to closing down the sport.

"I think the brutal truth... when it comes to so-called wastage is if that is the catalyst to close down greyhound racing, we would also have to close down thoroughbred horseracing and close down the beef industry," Mr Foley told ABC Radio on Monday.

"Wastage does occur. Is it repulsive? Yes it is. Should we do something about it? Yes we should and I think (Commissioner) McHugh provides as an alternative to declaring the industry illegal a road map that would involve far more monitoring and reportage on the life cycle of greyhounds."

[Nerula 1,403]

How long do those cute little bobby calves live. 5 days? And lentils and mung beans feel pain when harvested.

[Bimbo 734]

4 hours ago, hesi said:

if this came to NZ

Don't you mean 'when this comes to NZ'?

[Leggy 4,093]

7 hours ago, Nerula said:

... lentils and mung beans feel pain when harvested.

Oh dear, I'm beginning to think Midget may be right for once....

10 hours ago, Midget said:

Did someone just unlock the whole fucking asylum again ??