Paul Belsham

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I didn't know- so does that make the TA  toothless.?

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19 hours ago, goldcape said:

Raising stake money would be nice but where does the increased money come from? I well remember when a horse Belsham helped train with Don Couchman won the Manawatu cup and the race was worth $100k. But racing was the only game in town, there was no competition There weren't pokies or casino's, lotto or scratchies. Racing was it!

I went to the Wanganui races a couple of weeks back. The facilities haven't been improved upon since I was a regular 30 to 40 years ago. I won't return in a hurry.

Punters are hard done by in this country. Trainers are running virtually private "jump-outs" which don't require reporting, jump trials are run without any public feedback or knowledge of their existence. Form reversals are common place with hardly a review from the stipes. Information is power.

Clean your act up. Become more professional and stop biting the hand that feeds you.

 

It won't only be the good guys like Paul that struggle to get by that quit or leave NZ...it will be the up and comers the people like Trent and Natalie... who can train but see no way to get ahead with the way things are in NZ.....you don't think the Marsh"s and the Pikes of this world don't see how much money is on offer daily in OZ...they are only human right??Racing in NZ is totally Donald ducked...to many clubs..too many chiefs and no bloody indians...all you ever hear out of PET ONE is spin spin and more spin.

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19 hours ago, goldcape said:

Of course I'm serious. I've had an involvement for 50 years - punter/owner. I have seen them come and go and understand the difficulties involved for all participants.Be careful what you wish for because your solution's are a recipe for corruption and ultimate disaster.

Goldcape you seem to be an organiser.  Maybe you could get the rank and file stakeholders to rally against the oppressive industry management overhead?

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Do you really want 100 pitty's Tim? now are you being serious?

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5 hours ago, Midget said:

Rogie is usually open to offers and persuasion from whomever might require his services at any particular time.

NZTR lends the Trainers Assn money so it follows the TA is beholden to NZTR.

NZTR holds the purse strings for the TA, literally.

It's a complex relationship that precludes effective input from the TA.

When the current crew took over at the TA there was well over $30,000 missing from the TA bank accounts that NZTR hosts.

Tell us more. Who misappropriated the money or have I misunderstood what you are saying. 

[Ohokaman 5,842]

Interesting chat with Des Coppins and Paul this morning.

Paul said they have struggled for a few years now and only kept their heads above water by selling a horse or two, and that was the way things are here.,,the only people making any decent living are those consistently selling horses each year.

Big decision to send Start Wondering over to Sydney for the better stakes. Now back here after bleeding attack last start. Chris Waller thinks he can win a Group 1 here so will be interesting to see where he and the others ( 9 in work, 17 on the property ) end up. Discussions with major owner Steve Gudsell today over which trainers will take over.

Best of luck Paul. You deserve better.

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On 16 June 2016 at 9:58 PM, Insider said:

Tell us more. Who misappropriated the money or have I misunderstood what you are saying. 

No you've read it correctly but it's five years ago now so I doubt we need to rehash it do we ?