rangi 73 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 what did everyone make of the day ad coverage? highlights and lowlights Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza123 51 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 GOOD coverage,don,t think they should have changed race times to suit aussie,puzzled why didn,t have sole coverage on 62 and nz galloping moved to 63,still would like trotters split by sex,think stakes should be cut to $60,000 for all grades as must be running at a big loss,turnover varied between $120.000 to $300,000 per race and distance at Cambridge to 2200,still a great days racing and abit of money for every starter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONSTA 1,148 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 54 minutes ago, kakama said: Seemed to work for punters betting with betfair. Good pools yesterday , Aussies must have bet while watching. All the other Aussie bookies must have done well also. Pity the tab are not competitive in any way, could increase stakes if this money was bet here. But , if you are a punter, and getting 10%, 20% or more betting overseas, you would be a mug to stay betting here. Betfair was insane for the jewels yesterday. How good would it be if the majority of nz meetings were like that! Some of the pro's made plenty by the looks. Massive go for Partyon! Jon Trum 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecithin 429 Report post Posted June 4, 2016 1 hour ago, kakama said: Seemed to work for punters betting with betfair. Good pools yesterday , Aussies must have bet while watching. All the other Aussie bookies must have done well also. Pity the tab are not competitive in any way, could increase stakes if this money was bet here. But , if you are a punter, and getting 10%, 20% or more betting overseas, you would be a mug to stay betting here. Was a great day for punting if you used Betfair and Aussie accounts - especially if you bet with the one that had very competitive fixed odds win prices and took each way bets at 1/4 odds the place Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,720 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 Had a coffee in the local Cafe this morning and grabbed the Sunday Herald. Not a word on the Jewels - was Guerin on leave?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted June 5, 2016 4 hours ago, lecithin said: Was a great day for punting if you used Betfair and Aussie accounts - especially if you bet with the one that had very competitive fixed odds win prices and took each way bets at 1/4 odds the place Surely though with Betfair if plenty made money then plenty lost?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSprat 947 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 Hate to be the one to break it to you Brodie, but that's how all betting works! GONSTA and Spikecity 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted June 5, 2016 7 hours ago, gazza123 said: GOOD coverage,don,t think they should have changed race times to suit aussie,puzzled why didn,t have sole coverage on 62 and nz galloping moved to 63,still would like trotters split by sex,think stakes should be cut to $60,000 for all grades as must be running at a big loss,turnover varied between $120.000 to $300,000 per race and distance at Cambridge to 2200,still a great days racing and abit of money for every starter Gazza. Agree 2200m far more suitable. Next year I believe the fields will be smaller as trainers won't waste their time racing if AllStars have 2 or 3 in the fields at Ashburton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecithin 429 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Surely though with Betfair if plenty made money then plenty lost?? Yep, that's how Betfair works. I was really referring to the fact you could back many runners for thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars on Betfair so most punters could have got set for whatever amount they wanted which is sometimes an issue... GONSTA 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONSTA 1,148 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 1 hour ago, JackSprat said: Hate to be the one to break it to you Brodie, but that's how all betting works! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted June 5, 2016 3 hours ago, JackSprat said: Hate to be the one to break it to you Brodie, but that's how all betting works! Exactly my point Jack. If you say that Betfair is the greatest to make money then for all the winners there is a loser. Betting with the Bookies you are taking money of the establishment and not other punters DAH! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Brodie said: Betting with the Bookies you are taking money of the establishment and not other punters DAH! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSprat 947 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Betting with the Bookies you are taking money of the establishment and not other punters DAH! And where exactly do you think "the establishment" get the funds from to pay the winners? That's right - the losing punters! No losing punters = no fixed odds betting medium! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted June 5, 2016 2 hours ago, JackSprat said: And where exactly do you think "the establishment" get the funds from to pay the winners? That's right - the losing punters! No losing punters = no fixed odds betting medium! It comes out if the TAB coffers, rather than physically having to be matched as in Betfair by a customer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSprat 947 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Brodie said: It comes out if the TAB coffers, rather than physically having to be matched as in Betfair by a customer. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Same difference in the long run. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 If the bookies set and manage their markets correctly, it's exactly the same as Betfair - they are effectively matching bets from multiple customers and clipping the ticket. You're dreaming if you think anyone is taking money from the TAB's coffers. Yes on certain markets they might make a loss but overall they make a decent margin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHindsight 117 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 You will find it impossible to explain betfair / how gambling works to a large % of NZ punters .. Pity they don't wise up here and let betfair pay royalties. Their international audience is larger than our TAB's current bed partner. Is the NZ TAB still the New Zealand TAB or just a TABCORP branch ? So who won yesterday the backers or layers. ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Piper 408 Report post Posted June 5, 2016 Didn't see any of them live so can't comment on the coverage , watched the replays online later on. Would think that people who spread their money over a couple of runners would have been the big winners on Saturday. Futures punters would have made it big or lost big because odds changed big time on some races because of the draws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted June 6, 2016 6 hours ago, N1MUE said: If the bookies set and manage their markets correctly, it's exactly the same as Betfair - they are effectively matching bets from multiple customers and clipping the ticket. You're dreaming if you think anyone is taking money from the TAB's coffers. Yes on certain markets they might make a loss but overall they make a decent margin. Obviously I am dreaming then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
