gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted May 31, 2016 Strad won 27 races from 132 starts. Debut at Oamaru on 20/9/69. Last start at Rangiora on 15/5/76. Peter Harrop, Behind the 8 Ball and elbow 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Harrop 226 Report post Posted May 31, 2016 I'm relying on you guys for accuracy Update : Most New Zealand Wins 1945-79 (Incomplete) Horse First Win Last Win Wins 1 GREY WAY 1974 1979 50 2 KUMAI 1960 1969 34 3 SHOW GATE 1973 1977 30 4 PICAROON 1956 1964 28 5 GLADAUB 1962 1969 27 6 STRAD 1969 1976 27 7 ZING 1973 1981 27 8 KORAL 1964 1972 26 9 BATTLE EVE 1973 1979 26 10 TIME AND TIDE 1965 1972 26 11 GAME 1966 1972 26 12 TATUA 1961 1970 26 13 COGITATION 1950 1958 25 14 COUNT KERERU 1968 1978 25 15 PALISADE 1961 1969 25 16 KALGOORLIE 1967 1974 25 17 RED CHIPS 1966 1972 23 18 SOMERSET FAIR 1954 1957 23 19 CABRIERE 1960 1969 23 20 LOCH LINNHE 1971 1979 23 21 LA MER 1976 1979 23 22 TRELAY 1969 1973 23 23 ORANMORE 1975 1981 23 24 MAINBRACE 1949 1951 23 25 ROBERT CRAIG 1949 1957 23 26 COPPER BELT 1974 1979 23 27 EXECUTE 1970 1975 23 28 HI ROONA 1975 1982 22 29 CLOUDY LEASE 1975 1982 22 30 JANS BEAU 1969 1976 22 31 SHIFNAL CHIEF 1972 1979 22 32 SEVEN FORTY SEVEN 1972 1979 22 33 COMPENSATE 1956 1965 21 34 DAMAR 1964 1972 21 35 SHARDA 1967 1976 21 36 ROCHDALE 1959 1967 21 37 ETTRICK 1964 1971 21 38 TADPOLE 1958 1965 21 39 WATALLAN 1966 1974 21 40 THE HOB 1948 1957 20 41 AYUB KHAN 1968 1976 20 42 DUTY FREE 1968 1976 20 43 WHAKAMOA 1964 1973 20 44 FLYING TRIX 1961 1968 20 45 GREAT SENSATION 1958 1963 20 46 BLUE NILE 1968 1975 20 47 MIDDY 1964 1970 20 Behind the 8 Ball, Ashoka and elbow 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted May 31, 2016 Zing had his first start at Invercargill on 20/11/71. His last start was at the same venue on 9/5/81. Lucy65 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted May 31, 2016 Candyboy won 20 races. He won his debut at Washdyke on 28/6/75 ridden by Jim Pankhurst. His last start was in the Wellington Cup on 17/1/81 when he ran 14/18 again ridden by Jim Pankhurst. Ashoka 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Harrop 226 Report post Posted May 31, 2016 42 minutes ago, gubellini said: Candyboy won 20 races. He won his debut at Washdyke on 28/6/75 ridden by Jim Pankhurst. His last start was in the Wellington Cup on 17/1/81 when he ran 14/18 again ridden by Jim Pankhurst. What a list this is turning out to be. Never imagined it would be so long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behind the 8 Ball 46 Report post Posted May 31, 2016 23 hours ago, TurnipOrange said: Bit of Trivia, D A Peake never rode in a NZ Cup !! I do recall him riding at the cup meeting... he got the ride on a good 3 year old, regular rider being suspended.... can't think of the name just now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behind the 8 Ball 46 Report post Posted May 31, 2016 1 hour ago, gubellini said: Candyboy won 20 races. He won his debut at Washdyke on 28/6/75 ridden by Jim Pankhurst. His last start was in the Wellington Cup on 17/1/81 when he ran 14/18 again ridden by Jim Pankhurst. Another good southern horse... He gave me a great result when won the Winter Cup as a 4 year old.. completing a double with another horse on the list Lock Linnhe gube, can you have a look up Miles Better, a horse that Candyboy raced against... the nracing site has him down for 14 but I'm sure he won more than that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 Behind the 8 Ball Miles Better raced 82 times for 14 wins/ 12 seconds/ 8 thirds. His last start was as a 12yo on 18/2/86 in Dunedin Gold Cup at Wingatui. He ran 12/16. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the shue25 145 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 was it little brown jug elbow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 Behind the 8 Ball the horse that you are referring to that David Peake rode at the N.Z. Cup meeting may have been Sweet Legend in the N.Z. One Thousand Guineas on 5/11/83. She was the second favourite but only ran 14/17. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behind the 8 Ball 46 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 14 minutes ago, gubellini said: Behind the 8 Ball Miles Better raced 82 times for 14 wins/ 12 seconds/ 8 thirds. His last start was as a 12yo on 18/2/86 in Dunedin Gold Cup at Wingatui. He ran 12/16. May I ask where you draw that stat from.... nzracing has him down for 90 starts.... but that was starting from 79/80 season... I'm sure he started before that as he was a '73 foal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 Behind the 8 Ball I am quoting the stats for Miles Better from the 1985-6 Turf Register. He won the 1984 and 1985 Chalmers Handicaps at Trentham as a 10 and 11 year old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the shue25 145 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 34 minutes ago, gubellini said: Behind the 8 Ball I am quoting the stats for Miles Better from the 1985-6 Turf Register. He won the 1984 and 1985 Chalmers Handicaps at Trentham as a 10 and 11 year old. Originally trained by wilson ellis them the owner miles johnson. elbow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 gubellini... I backed Candyboy when he won his first start. I still recall being very disappointed at how short he was in the betting. All the best. Ashoka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,883 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 My original trainer Don Sellwood told me a few years ago "they are breeding them soft these days!" Looking at the list I think that he was right! Too much Northern Dancer blood? von Smallhaussen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,883 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 I don't mean to hijack this fantastic thread. Please start another one if you wish to continue the debate on "soft or not". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,883 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 I don't mean to hijack this fantastic thread. Please start another one if you wish to continue the debate on "soft or not". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted June 1, 2016 Insider today many are breeding for the sale ring rather than the racecourse. A lot of today's horses look brilliant and well conformed but aren't very competitive on the track. Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacko 123 Report post Posted May 14, 2018 Overtheriver to be added to the list of 20 wins or more? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Harrop 226 Report post Posted May 14, 2018 16 hours ago, Hacko said: Overtheriver to be added to the list of 20 wins or more? Yep. Definitely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneasy 497 Report post Posted May 14, 2018 Our Genes. 25 El Chico 24 Cubes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,335 Report post Posted May 15, 2018 23 hours ago, Hacko said: Overtheriver to be added to the list of 20 wins or more? And Dummy has two sitting on 19 wins. Scapolo and Sea King. Although Scapolo has won two in Aussie and Sea King six so each needs a few more NZ wins to make this list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Harrop 226 Report post Posted May 16, 2018 Here's the updated list of retired and current horses with their number of NZ wins, Most New Zealand Wins Since 1979 (Complete) Horse First Win Last Win Wins 1 A GORDON FOR ME 1990 1999 26 2 OUR GENES 2005 2013 25 3 COVERED N GREY 1993 1999 24 4 EL CHICO 2008 2016 24 5 CATERING KING 1985 1992 23 6 OCEAN GUARD 1982 1990 23 7 SIR SLICK 2004 2010 22 8 SWEENEY TODD 1979 1985 22 9 BULGINBAAH 2004 2011 22 10 LORD ZIRITO 1986 1995 21 11 COMMISSIONAIRE 1981 1985 21 12 CHIBUKU 1985 1991 20 13 MICKEYS TOWN 1986 1992 20 14 VINCERE 1981 1989 20 15 PINNACLE 1991 1997 20 16 OVERTHERIVER 2013 2018 20 Most New Zealand Wins 1945-79 (Incomplete) Horse First Win Last Win Wins 1 GREY WAY 1974 1979 50 2 KUMAI 1960 1969 34 3 SHOW GATE 1973 1977 30 4 PICAROON 1956 1964 28 5 GLADAUB 1962 1969 27 6 STRAD 1969 1976 27 7 ZING 1971 1981 27 8 KORAL 1964 1972 26 9 BATTLE EVE 1973 1979 26 10 TIME AND TIDE 1965 1972 26 11 GAME 1966 1972 26 12 TATUA 1961 1970 26 13 COGITATION 1950 1958 25 14 COUNT KERERU 1968 1978 25 15 PALISADE 1961 1969 25 16 KALGOORLIE 1967 1974 25 17 RED CHIPS 1966 1972 23 18 SOMERSET FAIR 1954 1957 23 19 CABRIERE 1960 1969 23 20 LOCH LINNHE 1971 1979 23 21 LA MER 1976 1979 23 22 TRELAY 1969 1973 23 23 ORANMORE 1975 1981 23 24 MAINBRACE 1949 1951 23 25 ROBERT CRAIG 1949 1957 23 26 COPPER BELT 1974 1979 23 27 EXECUTE 1970 1975 23 28 HI ROONA 1975 1982 22 29 CLOUDY LEASE 1975 1982 22 30 JANS BEAU 1969 1976 22 31 SHIFNAL CHIEF 1972 1979 22 32 SEVEN FORTY SEVEN 1972 1979 22 33 COMPENSATE 1956 1965 21 34 DAMAR 1964 1972 21 35 SHARDA 1967 1976 21 36 ROCHDALE 1959 1967 21 37 ETTRICK 1964 1971 21 38 TADPOLE 1958 1965 21 39 WATALLAN 1966 1974 21 40 THE HOB 1948 1957 20 41 AYUB KHAN 1968 1976 20 42 DUTY FREE 1968 1976 20 43 WHAKAMOA 1964 1973 20 44 FLYING TRIX 1961 1968 20 45 GREAT SENSATION 1958 1963 20 46 BLUE NILE 1968 1975 20 47 MIDDY 1964 1970 20 48 CANDYBOY 1975 1981 20 Current and Recent Performers 12-19 Wins Horse First Win Last Win Wins 1 INDIKATOR 2006 2014 18 2 SCAPOLO 2013 2018 17 3 THATZ DAVID 2010 2017 16 4 ALL SPICE 2008 2017 16 5 TOMMY TUCKER 2012 2018 16 6 KING MONTROSE 2009 2016 15 7 KAWI 2013 2017 15 8 I DO 2011 2014 15 9 BACK IN BLACK 2008 2014 14 10 NASHVILLE 2011 2017 14 11 JOHN GRAY 2008 2016 14 12 SAINT EMILION 2015 2018 14 13 BORRACK 2007 2014 13 14 NOBLE WARRIOR 2010 2015 13 15 OUR BEE JAY 2009 2015 13 16 SPIN DOCTOR 2010 2015 13 17 SEA KING 2011 2017 13 18 ANTONIO LOMBARD 2010 2016 13 19 BRAGATO 2008 2014 13 20 WAIT A SEC 2014 2018 13 21 CAPE KINAVERAL 2006 2014 12 22 DANZA LAD 2012 2017 12 23 HIGH FORTY 2010 2015 12 24 IAMISHWARA 2012 2015 12 25 MATOST 2008 2016 12 26 THENAMESBOND 2012 2017 12 27 ALPINE HEIGHTS 2010 2015 12 28 SUPERTURF 2010 2015 12 29 COMANCHE GOLD 2011 2016 12 30 SUCRE 2012 2015 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted May 16, 2018 Wow some great names included in those lists....would be great to have a few of them running around now....!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R 260 Report post Posted May 16, 2018 Great to read the list of 47. Interestingly, 8 of the top 10 were from the South Island, and 5 of those horses raced only in the South Island from memory, where there were very few, if any, mid week meetings. Cheers. Robert. elbow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...