gary1 361 Report post Posted April 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Ashoka said: gary1... These days, box draws are done by computer...there is nothing to watch. The allegations regarding the rigging of box draws were very serious and involved a filial relationship. Having had professional dealings with one of the people involved in the allegations, there is no doubt in my mind that the probability of the allegations being entirely justified is very high indeed. The "theories" regarding the manipulation of the box draws were anything but far-fetched. The instigation of an audit trail with the results going to the Racing Manager was a direct result of the said investigation. Whether or not the promised checks on the number of times any particular draw has been done, have actually occurred remains a moot point. Hence the relevance of the question that "Eagle Eye" wants answered. The time interval between the push of the draw button and the resulted draw is very small indeed. How many times can a button be pushed in just one minute? There was, and seemingly is, ample time available to push the button hundreds of times. All the best. Ashoka so ashoka can i as an independent ask to watch the button being pushed come on ref 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted April 19, 2016 gary1... As you must surely know, the question you have asked can only be answered by the Greyhound Association. Why you would want to watch the button being pushed is beyond me. Unless you, basically, camped out in the office during the acceptance process, your presence when the button is pushed is entirely a waste of time. The number of times the button is pushed in relation to a particular race is the salient factor, as may be the actual time it is pushed. The way to determine the integrity of the draw process for a particular race is to see the audit trail results for the said race. All the best. Ashoka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoKnows 791 Report post Posted April 21, 2016 A great win by a very talented bitch, probably the best to come off the Opawa property I would imagine. Even better it was a kiwi bred dog that won and beat the ready-made Aussie imports, good run from Know Jinx to make up the ground she did in such a fast-run race too. come on ref, gary1, aquaman and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape 344 Report post Posted April 21, 2016 It was a brilliant performance. Only disappointing thing was the beastly easterly came up and nearly destroyed any chance of a good time. We have had some sterling evenings lately - warm and windless. Not tonight! 29.93 was a terrific time in the circumstances. Congratulations to all the finalists but the kudos must go to the Faheys and the Opawa team. Euge! jasonmccook1 and Awesome-O 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyintheruck 16 Report post Posted April 25, 2016 One point no one mentioned was that if a trainer has 2 dogs in the race, he has double the chance of drawing the ace. I know its obvious. But going by some of the comments some contributors may have missed it. jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted April 28, 2016 On 4/19/2016 at 6:45 AM, Ashoka said: gary1... As you must surely know, the question you have asked can only be answered by the Greyhound Association. Why you would want to watch the button being pushed is beyond me. Unless you, basically, camped out in the office during the acceptance process, your presence when the button is pushed is entirely a waste of time. The number of times the button is pushed in relation to a particular race is the salient factor, as may be the actual time it is pushed. The way to determine the integrity of the draw process for a particular race is to see the audit trail results for the said race. All the best. Ashoka interesting reading ashoka Box Draw Audit Findings ReleasedWritten by: GRNSW 28/04/16 Greyhound Racing NSW has today released the findings of the OzChase Box Draw system audit. The audit was conducted by Associate Professor Berwin A Turlach of the Centre for Applied Statistics at The University of Western Australia, at the request of the OzChase user states. The auditor was provided with information on more than 29,000 races held in NSW in the period between 29 June 2013 and 21 September 2015. Previously, participants have raised concerns that the OzChase box algorithm is not random, and that if a trainer has multiple greyhounds in the one race then these greyhounds are drawn in neighbouring boxes more frequently than many participants consider random. Following consideration of these concerns, the data provided to the auditor was analysed specifically to investigate this theory, in addition to the following scenarios: • the allocation of individual greyhounds to boxes over all the races that they ran in; • the allocation of the greyhound(s) of any owner to boxes over all races in which that owner had greyhound(s) running; and • the allocation of the greyhound(s) of any trainer to boxes over all races in which that trainer had greyhound(s) running. The audit, which commenced last year, found that there was no evidence to suggest that the OzChase box algorithm does not work as designed, in that each greyhound is equally likely to be assigned to any of the boxes.Click here to view the Audit Report. Ashoka 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
