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Another Group winner and stakes winner in UK for Power. A very impressive three stakes winners for the weekend.

The Group One Racing Trophy was won by Rivet who is by Fastnet Rock out of a Galileo mare. Quite interesting is the female line is Power's female line.

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Isn't he a lovely type, Padraig? what will be a shame if Power keeps on keeping on, is the possibility that he wont win the title as 1st season should another with only 1-2 runners all season wins the Karaka Mil. That's the problem with closed races, the prize money from Karaka is counted in the wash up, it should be, champion sire counting all races bar the Karaka closed, contentious, probably.

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1 hour ago, biff said:

Isn't he a lovely type, Padraig? what will be a shame if Power keeps on keeping on, is the possibility that he wont win the title as 1st season should another with only 1-2 runners all season wins the Karaka Mil. That's the problem with closed races, the prize money from Karaka is counted in the wash up, it should be, champion sire counting all races bar the Karaka closed, contentious, probably.

Agree, pure and simple. 

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The Karaka Million does distort the 2yo First Season sires Premiership.

If you look into Power's pedigree you will see this is not a 2yo family, so expect much more when they get to 3yo's and above. After all this is the Bruce Lowe number one family.

Some examples of great family number one are- High Chaparral, Shirley Heights, Swynford ,Blenheim, Phalaris...etc.

The Family Numbers commonly used to designate the various Thoroughbred female families were popularized by Bruce Lowe, an Australian pedigree researcher at the end of the nineteenth century. Lowe's work, Breeding Horses by the Figure System was published posthumously in 1895 by his friend and editor, William Allison. He had traced back the pedigrees of the complete list of winners of the oldest English classics, the St. Leger Stakes, Epsom Derby Stakes and Epsom Oaks, grouping them by direct lines of tail female descent, from dam to granddam and on back until the family was no longer traceable in the General Stud Book. He then tallied the number of classic winners produced by each family and listed them in declining order. The family with the most classic winners, the one descending from Tregonwell's Natural Barb Mare, was designated Family #1

 

 

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I think the pedigree genetics people have now published some articles on corrections (historic errors that were bound to happen) on the Lowe numbers outlining that some families are infact from other numbers. Anyone have the links? 

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Yes there have been some errors. Plenty of information online.-" Deep rooted anomalies were identified in families numbered 5, 6, and 9"

Deep Rooted Anomalies in Female Families Revealed by mtDNA Testing.

Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is passed, with very rare exception, only from mothers to their offspring. The actual sequence of nucleotides changes very slowly over time, especially in portions of the mitochondrial chromosome that are not linked to critical functions. These two characteristics (inheritance only from the mother, & gradual creation of diverse sequences over time) makes mtDNA potentially useful in identifying & validating Thoroughbred (TB) female families defined from pedigrees.

That MtDNA typing revealed multiple maternal lines of descent (matrilineages) in some Thoroughbred families was first reported by Hill, et al (2002). The authors classified these discrepant lineages as modern, possible de novo mutation, and deep rooted anomalies. Deep rooted anomalies were identified in families numbered 5, 6, and 9 (according to the Bruce Lowe system) and confirmed by Bower, et al (2012b). An additional anomalous lineage in family 12 was reported by Bower, et al (2012a).

Bower, et al (2012b) also concluded that, despite the discrepancies reported, mtDNA test results were relatively consistent within branches (or sub-lineages) of families. Their proposed explanation for this phenomenon is that "errors in pedigrees must have occurred largely, though not exclusively, at sub-lineage foundation events, probably due to incomplete understanding of modes of inheritance in the past, where maternal sub-lineages were founded from individuals, related, but not by female descent." However, a different explanation is suggested by the historical record. Three of these four deep-rooted anomalies can be traced to editorial changes made in the 5th edition (1891) of volume one of the General Stud Book (GSB) where family lines were linked that had been separate in previous editions. The fourth deep-rooted anomaly probably originated in the early practice of recording only the names of the stallions in pedigrees, so that even mares that were named when they appeared on the turf were frequently anonymous in pedigrees of their descendants. Faced with two identical sequences of named sires, it was practically inevitable that later pedigree collectors would consolidate different matrilineages into the same family.
 

 

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On ‎18‎/‎04‎/‎2016 at 2:24 PM, bazach said:

This family goes back to the 'blue hen' mare Malva, and what an amazing mare she was. Only 15 hands high, but the dam of derby winners Blenheim and King Salmon, and also of His Grace.

Blenheim of course is the sire of Mumtaz Begum, the dam of Nasrullah.

Breeders in New Zealand will also be familiar with this family, as Malva is the 3rd dam of champion sire Summertime, the fourth dam of NZ half brother sires Crest of the Wave and Palm Beach, and now the 9th dam of both Jakkalberry and Power.

This family has been extremely successful 'down under' and it would be no surprize if both Jakkalberry and Power continued this success with this great thoroughbred line.

"The Karaka Million does distort the 2yo First Season sires Premiership.If you look into Power's pedigree you will see this is not a 2yo family, so expect much more when they get to 3yo's and above. After all this is the Bruce Lowe number one family.Some examples of great family number one are- High Chaparral, Shirley Heights, Swynford ,Blenheim, Phalaris...etc."

As previously discussed on here back in April, as above, Power is a descendant of the great "blue hen" mare Malva (who is Blenheim's dam). I agree that Power's progeny should be far better as three year olds.

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4 hours ago, rdytdy said:

Lot 315  Power - Octapussy was my pick of the Power progeny from the Premier Catalogue.

Went to the Hong Kong Jockey Club for $380,000.

 

Yep, and there go's the pedigree page Ted, the necessary evil for NZ.

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Dear Silver Lad - Mrs Biff here - happy to respond to your query (without malice).  As a professional breeder, the question is to sell for big money in the short term and risk long term pain through a downgraded pedigree page.  If you do the stats, most of the young horses sold as yearlings to HKG do not reach the racetrack....sold off the track is a different proposition.  Think how many beautiful colts have gone through the rings in both NZ and Oz and for most of them not to reach the track....so your lovely mare that you keep sending to top line stallions is looking awful after a few years as she seems not to get any to the racetrack...so what do you do?  You then have to hit the market to find another nice mare, spending all the money you'v got from the Asian purchases...so what's the point...people in this country have not yet woken up (don't want to admit) to this fact.  Very few horses adjust to the conditions in HKG or Singapore. Most of the local trainers in HKG are very ordinary...how could they be good trainers???If some of the lovely colts sold to Asia were kept here in NZ or OZ, then NZ stud masters wouldn't have to pay money to buy 2nd rate Aussie sprinters to stand here at stud.

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