rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted July 4, 2016 Power. Northern Hemisphere 2yos to date. 18 runners 8 winners Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasrullah 180 Report post Posted July 17, 2016 Power now sire of a Group 3 winner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey 214 Report post Posted July 18, 2016 On 17 July 2016 at 4:44 PM, Nasrullah said: Power now sire of a Group 3 winner Good efforts. Are you breeding to him this year? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Dusty 14 Report post Posted July 19, 2016 Yes, My Girlfriend is sending 2 mares to him this upcoming season :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted July 24, 2016 Power. Fully booked for 2016. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 Gift of Power very impressive winner at Te Teko Trials today. 2f ex Capital Diamond. Rogerson trained. MiDeBo Racing 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddymc 24 Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Article on Power and hi first season in Europe http://www.aidanobrienfansite.com/power.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted September 3, 2016 Gift Of Power 1st Wanganui Beautiful Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted September 3, 2016 1 from 1 great start in NZ for this super exciting Stallion . Gift of Power was very dominant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasrullah 180 Report post Posted October 22, 2016 Gift Of Power very impressive today winning the Wellesley Stakes. Remains unbeaten after winning his first start also. Beat a very smart horse and fought back well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasrullah 180 Report post Posted October 23, 2016 Another Group winner and stakes winner in UK for Power. A very impressive three stakes winners for the weekend. The Group One Racing Trophy was won by Rivet who is by Fastnet Rock out of a Galileo mare. Quite interesting is the female line is Power's female line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Another impressive winner yesterday in the name Padraig . Should have at least two in the Millions race . Has Sir Patrick got himself another boom sire in his Stable? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biff 2,158 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Isn't he a lovely type, Padraig? what will be a shame if Power keeps on keeping on, is the possibility that he wont win the title as 1st season should another with only 1-2 runners all season wins the Karaka Mil. That's the problem with closed races, the prize money from Karaka is counted in the wash up, it should be, champion sire counting all races bar the Karaka closed, contentious, probably. Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,961 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, biff said: Isn't he a lovely type, Padraig? what will be a shame if Power keeps on keeping on, is the possibility that he wont win the title as 1st season should another with only 1-2 runners all season wins the Karaka Mil. That's the problem with closed races, the prize money from Karaka is counted in the wash up, it should be, champion sire counting all races bar the Karaka closed, contentious, probably. Agree, pure and simple. Nasrullah 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasrullah 180 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 The Karaka Million does distort the 2yo First Season sires Premiership. If you look into Power's pedigree you will see this is not a 2yo family, so expect much more when they get to 3yo's and above. After all this is the Bruce Lowe number one family. Some examples of great family number one are- High Chaparral, Shirley Heights, Swynford ,Blenheim, Phalaris...etc. The Family Numbers commonly used to designate the various Thoroughbred female families were popularized by Bruce Lowe, an Australian pedigree researcher at the end of the nineteenth century. Lowe's work, Breeding Horses by the Figure System was published posthumously in 1895 by his friend and editor, William Allison. He had traced back the pedigrees of the complete list of winners of the oldest English classics, the St. Leger Stakes, Epsom Derby Stakes and Epsom Oaks, grouping them by direct lines of tail female descent, from dam to granddam and on back until the family was no longer traceable in the General Stud Book. He then tallied the number of classic winners produced by each family and listed them in declining order. The family with the most classic winners, the one descending from Tregonwell's Natural Barb Mare, was designated Family #1 Dopey and TBL 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey 214 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 I think the pedigree genetics people have now published some articles on corrections (historic errors that were bound to happen) on the Lowe numbers outlining that some families are infact from other numbers. Anyone have the links? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasrullah 180 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 Yes there have been some errors. Plenty of information online.-" Deep rooted anomalies were identified in families numbered 5, 6, and 9" Deep Rooted Anomalies in Female Families Revealed by mtDNA Testing. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is passed, with very rare exception, only from mothers to their offspring. The actual sequence of nucleotides changes very slowly over time, especially in portions of the mitochondrial chromosome that are not linked to critical functions. These two characteristics (inheritance only from the mother, & gradual creation of diverse sequences over time) makes mtDNA potentially useful in identifying & validating Thoroughbred (TB) female families defined from pedigrees. That MtDNA typing revealed multiple maternal lines of descent (matrilineages) in some Thoroughbred families was first reported by Hill, et al (2002). The authors classified these discrepant lineages as modern, possible de novo mutation, and deep rooted anomalies. Deep rooted anomalies were identified in families numbered 5, 6, and 9 (according to the Bruce Lowe system) and confirmed by Bower, et al (2012b). An additional anomalous lineage in family 12 was reported by Bower, et al (2012a). Bower, et al (2012b) also concluded that, despite the discrepancies reported, mtDNA test results were relatively consistent within branches (or sub-lineages) of families. Their proposed explanation for this phenomenon is that "errors in pedigrees must have occurred largely, though not exclusively, at sub-lineage foundation events, probably due to incomplete understanding of modes of inheritance in the past, where maternal sub-lineages were founded from individuals, related, but not by female descent." However, a different explanation is suggested by the historical record. Three of these four deep-rooted anomalies can be traced to editorial changes made in the 5th edition (1891) of volume one of the General Stud Book (GSB) where family lines were linked that had been separate in previous editions. The fourth deep-rooted anomaly probably originated in the early practice of recording only the names of the stallions in pedigrees, so that even mares that were named when they appeared on the turf were frequently anonymous in pedigrees of their descendants. Faced with two identical sequences of named sires, it was practically inevitable that later pedigree collectors would consolidate different matrilineages into the same family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazach 133 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 On 18/04/2016 at 2:24 PM, bazach said: This family goes back to the 'blue hen' mare Malva, and what an amazing mare she was. Only 15 hands high, but the dam of derby winners Blenheim and King Salmon, and also of His Grace. Blenheim of course is the sire of Mumtaz Begum, the dam of Nasrullah. Breeders in New Zealand will also be familiar with this family, as Malva is the 3rd dam of champion sire Summertime, the fourth dam of NZ half brother sires Crest of the Wave and Palm Beach, and now the 9th dam of both Jakkalberry and Power. This family has been extremely successful 'down under' and it would be no surprize if both Jakkalberry and Power continued this success with this great thoroughbred line. "The Karaka Million does distort the 2yo First Season sires Premiership.If you look into Power's pedigree you will see this is not a 2yo family, so expect much more when they get to 3yo's and above. After all this is the Bruce Lowe number one family.Some examples of great family number one are- High Chaparral, Shirley Heights, Swynford ,Blenheim, Phalaris...etc." As previously discussed on here back in April, as above, Power is a descendant of the great "blue hen" mare Malva (who is Blenheim's dam). I agree that Power's progeny should be far better as three year olds. Nasrullah 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasrullah 180 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 Current leading New Zealand sire is Savabeel- Tail line is the Bruce Lowe number one family Current leading Australia sire is I Am Invincible- Tail line is the Bruce Lowe number one family Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 Lot 315 Power - Octapussy was my pick of the Power progeny from the Premier Catalogue. Went to the Hong Kong Jockey Club for $380,000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biff 2,158 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 4 hours ago, rdytdy said: Lot 315 Power - Octapussy was my pick of the Power progeny from the Premier Catalogue. Went to the Hong Kong Jockey Club for $380,000. Yep, and there go's the pedigree page Ted, the necessary evil for NZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver lad 6 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 Biff A question without malice.Why does a sale to Hong Kong destroy the pedigree page? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biff 2,158 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 Dear Silver Lad - Mrs Biff here - happy to respond to your query (without malice). As a professional breeder, the question is to sell for big money in the short term and risk long term pain through a downgraded pedigree page. If you do the stats, most of the young horses sold as yearlings to HKG do not reach the racetrack....sold off the track is a different proposition. Think how many beautiful colts have gone through the rings in both NZ and Oz and for most of them not to reach the track....so your lovely mare that you keep sending to top line stallions is looking awful after a few years as she seems not to get any to the racetrack...so what do you do? You then have to hit the market to find another nice mare, spending all the money you'v got from the Asian purchases...so what's the point...people in this country have not yet woken up (don't want to admit) to this fact. Very few horses adjust to the conditions in HKG or Singapore. Most of the local trainers in HKG are very ordinary...how could they be good trainers???If some of the lovely colts sold to Asia were kept here in NZ or OZ, then NZ stud masters wouldn't have to pay money to buy 2nd rate Aussie sprinters to stand here at stud. TBL, Ruby, Ethereal and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver lad 6 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 Mrs Biff Thanks for your response and I now appreciate the dilemma you guys face.Good luck in your endeavours given that the cards seem to be stacked against you. Cubes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeder 609 Report post Posted February 1, 2017 Interesting Mrs Biff. Just out of curiosity, do certain bloodlines do better than others in Asia in terms of adapting to the conditions --heat , general lack of outdoor space etc ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...