integrity 17 Report post Posted March 13, 2016 With all the recent events regarding equine performance enhancing drugs/supplements , it would seem obvious to ask not only how the " testers " arrived at the " acceptable " levels but also what were the drugs tested on . Presumably horses were used as the " test pots " rather than the typical caged lab rats in a laboratory in order to ascertain not only the " levels " but also the contraindications . Where are the tests conducted in the "transparent " world that we live in ?? All seems pretty vague . Anyone from the Racing Integrity Unit like to shed some light on the subject or is darkness the preferred option ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Lobos 139 Report post Posted March 13, 2016 1 hour ago, integrity said: With all the recent events regarding equine performance enhancing drugs/supplements , it would seem obvious to ask not only how the " testers " arrived at the " acceptable " levels but also what were the drugs tested on . Presumably horses were used as the " test pots " rather than the typical caged lab rats in a laboratory in order to ascertain not only the " levels " but also the contraindications . Where are the tests conducted in the "transparent " world that we live in ?? All seems pretty vague . Anyone from the Racing Integrity Unit like to shed some light on the subject or is darkness the preferred option ??? Like you I find too many conflicting "Expert" answers. For this to go away it needs the RIU to make some statements that remove the suspicions that all is not out in the open. Don't we all have the right to know how these tests were conducted and why they arrived at the decision etc. to make an informed decision, or are these answers going to give us more to question? Don't Wexford deserve to be cleared as at present more people suspect foul play than not. Seems ludicrous that it can be concluded with so many questions still unanswered. Maybe we just have to wait and see what comes out at the hearing. integrity 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
integrity 17 Report post Posted March 14, 2016 All very well hearing about all the expert advice on cobalt levels and other statistics but the research always has to be based on physical evidence with physical subjects . A test group of horses must have been used along with the placebo group . How many horses were involved in order to collate the evidence ? Did the test group run faster than the placebo group ? How was it tested ? Blood , urine , hair or tissue samples ? Over what timeframe were these tests conducted . Weeks , months , years ? How many individual horses had adverse effects from the administration of cobalt ? What were the contraindications ? Who were the individuals who conducted the research ( drug trials ) and where was the physical location that the various " test drives " of the " juiced up " lear jets ( horses ) took place ? So many unanswered questions , that the publicised adverse effects of cobalt are starting to look like a chapter from " Grimms Fairytales should a full disclosure of the research trials on horses with cobalt not be publicly made . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Lobos 139 Report post Posted March 14, 2016 On 1/8/2016 at 7:07 AM, Los Lobos said: https://www.racing.com/news/2015-01-19/the-cobalt-threshold I thought this made interesting reading but now it seems this is disputed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
