Black Dog 72 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 Evidently, extra security and the R.I.U out in force at Wanganui ....Any one know why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi 782 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 The best possible place to begin integrity reform in Greyhound racing? Scale issues? Sick dog issues? aquaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Shady 479 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 21 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Evidently, extra security and the R.I.U out in force at Wanganui ....Any one know why? Maybe the stipes are finally going to have a go at putting out some of the cheating dogs down there and are expecting a backlash? come on ref 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoKnows 791 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 Agree with the I'll dog issues, I see there is already 1 late scratching from the McInerney kennel already today, seeing scouring dogs arriving from their place to the track is a disgrace, but from what I've heard the South Island kennel is just as bad, and if you look at the results of both the kennels over the last few weeks it shows. come on ref 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi 782 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 Race #3 today has an interesting occurrence. The TAB has dog #6 at plus 2.4kgs. https://www.tab.co.nz/racing/#2016-02-17-m3-r3 The RIU tweet has dog #6 at minus 2.4kgs. https://twitter.com/riuorgnz?ref_src=twsrc^tfw One of them is bound to be correct. aquaman and GONSTA 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi 782 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 Race #8 today has an interesting occurrence. The TAB has no weight variance for the #6 dog. https://www.tab.co.nz/racing/#2016-02-17-m3-r8 The RIU has a weight variance for the #6 dog of minus 1.9kgs. https://twitter.com/riuorgnz?ref_src=twsrc^tfw One of them is bound to be correct. As the first two tweets do not agree with TAB information, how are they able to agree with the RIU's third tweet about race #4? Why in that same tweet does the RIU say in race #7 that Blazing Hot is up 1.8mgs yet the TAB claims it is down 1.8kgs? Peter on Dogzone mentioned that Greyhound racing is suppose to be a professional sport. How are things performing one day on? Slim Shady and aquaman 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi 782 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 Firstly thank you to whomever has made the proper corrections. Can I suggest that more attention is paid to the detail in the future. The information that is being given is very relevant. Giving misleading information is actually worse than no information at all. Punters are very much like many of those who invest in the stock markets. Calm & settled places are where they want to be & when turmoil or chaos is in the air, they quickly run for the door. Ashoka, aquaman, gary1 and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottabull 77 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Yankiwi said: Race #3 today has an interesting occurrence. The TAB has dog #6 at plus 2.4kgs. https://www.tab.co.nz/racing/#2016-02-17-m3-r3 The RIU tweet has dog #6 at minus 2.4kgs. https://twitter.com/riuorgnz?ref_src=twsrc^tfw One of them is bound to be correct. Hi yankiwi, Eve Ning Hill was up 2.4kgs. She is just coming back from a season and she has changed to be a full-on bitch and as we were sick of treating injuries due to her antics in the kennels and not being able to trial the last 3 sundays. We decided to race her over a sprint distance. She is bred to go over middle distance plus. She did not disgrace herself and one day, she will get an inside draw, as she has had box 2 once out of her 10 starts, she has had box 6, 6 times. She is from the "OSTI" line, which are late maturers. Cheers, Lottabull P.S. She will improve, so, watch this space. gary1, aquaman and Yankiwi 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi 782 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, lottabull said: Hi yankiwi, Eve Ning Hill was up 2.4kgs. She is just coming back from a season and she has changed to be a full-on bitch and as we were sick of treating injuries due to her antics in the kennels and not being able to trial the last 3 sundays. We decided to race her over a sprint distance. She is bred to go over middle distance plus. She did not disgrace herself and one day, she will get an inside draw, as she has had box 2 once out of her 10 starts, she has had box 6, 6 times. She is from the "OSTI" line, which are late maturers. Cheers, Lottabull P.S. She will improve, so, watch this space. No worries Lottabull, I wasn't trying to make a comment about your girl. What I was commenting on was the differing information being provided to the public (punters) by the TAB & the RIU, which I know is something that an owner and/or trainer has no say in whatsoever. Best of luck with your girl & I'll be watching with interest. gary1 and lottabull 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 Yet again the same kennels brings more dogs to the races full of the bug from the north and south kennels. Now it has spread to a couple of very pissed off small trainers that have had the shits. Why didn't the kennels get a stand down when they had dogs on drips??? This sport is never going to change whoever gets in!!! WhoKnows and Slim Shady 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 7 hours ago, WhoKnows said: Agree with the I'll dog issues, I see there is already 1 late scratching from the McInerney kennel already today, seeing scouring dogs arriving from their place to the track is a disgrace, but from what I've heard the South Island kennel is just as bad, and if you look at the results of both the kennels over the last few weeks it shows. No sure what you are getting at ? If a dog is not right then why start it ? And from what I see they are winning there fair share of races . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 27 minutes ago, come on ref said: Yet again the same kennels brings more dogs to the races full of the bug from the north and south kennels. Now it has spread to a couple of very pissed off small trainers that have had the shits. Why didn't the kennels get a stand down when they had dogs on drips??? This sport is never going to change whoever gets in!!! I asked last time you posted about dogs on the drip but no reply? I don't think any kennel comes up with a bug to give to there dogs and they were not the first trainers to have there dogs stood down with the bug that's going round at the moment so not to sure what your getting at . alltheway!!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 What about??? Its all in the stipes from Palmerston North and wanganui of dogs with diarrhoea being late scratched in the parade ring. Its all gotta change but it won't WhoKnows and gary1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 They didn't come up with a bug their dogs were physically Ill last Wednesday and they have had sick dogs since. But yet again they get away with it and are they worried about their dogs welfare..... yeah rite WhoKnows and gary1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi 782 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 The Stewards report is available. https://www.thedogs.co.nz/catch-the-action/12030/stewards-report.aspx There are three things that seem a bit out of the ordinary to my eyes. Three Stewards officiating at the race meet. Ten post race swabs taken on the day. Two of those post race swabs were taken from runners in the last race of the day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 Good honest trainers have nothing to worry about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 41 minutes ago, come on ref said: What about??? Its all in the stipes from Palmerston North and wanganui of dogs with diarrhoea being late scratched in the parade ring. Its all gotta change but it won't Thanks for replying this time . Ok so the dogs in question from their kennels where in fact sick after they had come out of the kennel block . They first must have been past fit to race by the on track vet , and then became sick this could happen so the right thing was done to scratch the dog yes ? Your second post re how do they get away with it I don't understand? Who you start a sick dog ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 Wow really so you think the vets can see inside the dog van and see the shit and vomit from the checking table. The 10. Seconds the vet takes to vet a dog can see this huh. The new vet at wanganui proberly doesn't think a trainer or handler would do such thing she will learn. aquaman and WhoKnows 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 I'm sure they don't go and check vehicles. I've seen a few different vets check dogs and also no a sick dog when handling one. they smell kinda funky so I'm sure the vet there can smell or see a sick dog and would not be putting threw to race if this was the case . Also if they had a feeling they would be checking it's temperature have seen this done in the past. As for the question you failed to answer how do some people get away with it ?dont understand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoKnows 791 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 1 minute ago, I know said: I'm sure they don't go and check vehicles. I've seen a few different vets check dogs and also no a sick dog when handling one. they smell kinda funky so I'm sure the vet there can smell or see a sick dog and would not be putting threw to race if this was the case . Also if they had a feeling they would be checking it's temperature have seen this done in the past. As for the question you failed to answer how do some people get away with it ?dont understand Considering you go by the name 'I Know' you dont to seem to know a lot. The trainers in question have had the shits for weeks now and have had numerous late scratchings when they haven't been able to get away with starting them, and they would have if they could. The vets can't tell if a dog has the shits when presented on the table, and if you think they can tell by 'smelling' them then I suggest you read a veterinary book fast, or maybe start a new job as the 'dog smeller'. It is nothing personal against the kennel but when fellow trainers turn up with their healthy dogs and have to sit in the kennel block and/or race with a dog that the trainers know are crook and likely to pass it onto their dog then it pisses people off no end! come on ref, aquaman and gary1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 Lol we all love the names other give ourselves on this site . I don't really care who the trainers are or what any other trainer does but I'll tell you this much , no trainer would start a dog if it was not well, why would they ?? They are there to make money and if a dog is unwell it cannot earn or will not earn in future weeks after a run . I no a bit about a vets job and I can tell you there are signs a dog is sick and it wouldn't take a genius to work them out . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoKnows 791 Report post Posted February 17, 2016 Well if you choose to bury your head in the sand and believe all trainers are all above board and all their dogs that race are all totally fit and well when they race then good luck to you, you obviously are new to the game, you will soon learn everything isn't all beer and skittles. And by the way a dog will get a $40 petrol voucher even if it runs down the track, so there is an incentive for some people to run their dogs even if they aren't well. alltheway!!!, gary1 and come on ref 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted February 18, 2016 17 hours ago, WhoKnows said: Well if you choose to bury your head in the sand and believe all trainers are all above board and all their dogs that race are all totally fit and well when they race then good luck to you, you obviously are new to the game, you will soon learn everything isn't all beer and skittles. And by the way a dog will get a $40 petrol voucher even if it runs down the track, so there is an incentive for some people to run their dogs even if they aren't well. No not new to the game at all , have owned dogs off and on for a number of years and enjoy every minute of it.I think you will find every trainer is out to win and set there dogs for the race. $40 is not an incentive to run your dog in a race, it's a token gesture and probably only covers cost of getting to the track.What you are saying is trainers will race just to get this fit or not fit that is laughable as I no what a greyhound is worth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted February 18, 2016 so you think after driving the dogs from south island to north island paying all the wages to the handlers, and being told that the dogs are sick the trainer would say don't risk the dogs come back with nothing????? DREAM ON MATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOME TRAINERS ARNT BOTHERED ABOUT THE OWNERS OHHHHHH SURPRIZE SURPRIZE. doesn't he get paid anyway win lose or end up on a drip?? when a trainer has plenty and can get plenty what is 1 or 2 or 3 or 7 or 9 dogs he still gets kennel fees read the stipes report there are plenty scratched Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoKnows 791 Report post Posted February 18, 2016 1 hour ago, I know said: No not new to the game at all , have owned dogs off and on for a number of years and enjoy every minute of it.I think you will find every trainer is out to win and set there dogs for the race. $40 is not an incentive to run your dog in a race, it's a token gesture and probably only covers cost of getting to the track.What you are saying is trainers will race just to get this fit or not fit that is laughable as I no what a greyhound is worth And most trainers would think like this, but when the kennel in question breeds hundreds and hundreds of dogs every year they become just another petrol voucher, especially the lower graded dogs who are only in the kennel to get a petrol voucher, especially the north island kennelled dogs. Have you looked up how much they won in petrol vouchers over the last 4-5 seasons, it is staggering. I think you need to get your head out of the sand, you half-glass full attitude is admiral albeit seriously misguided. p.s there is a difference between the words 'no' and 'know', I suggest you go and look them up. come on ref and GONSTA 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
