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Favourable Treatment. Why?

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Why are greyhounds on our TV screens during peak times today? I have no issue with them being on in the early evening when most of the major races in the other codes are done and dusted but not during peak time on a Saturday.

Saturday is traditionally the best day of the week to have your race meeting in front of the betting public. Invariably these days are so busy with wall to wall racing there isn't enough time to fully do justice to the current race on screen before having to race off to another venue.

It's Wellington Cup day and Trackside 1 are sharing the stage between Gore and Wellington. It's a pity Trackside 1 is not devoting the entire channel exclusively to Wellington Cup day in the same way they did on NZ Cup day at Addington. The supporting races at Addington were were worth 20k where as the supporting races at Trentham today are worth 40k. The Thorndon Mile and Wellington Cup make today's premier meeting at Wellington a ripper. By the time the biggest races are on, Trentham will also be sharing the Trackside 1 stage with Mooney Valley and Randwick.

That makes the situation with the greyhounds today even more perplexing. Trackside 2 is exclusively covering the Auckland Greyhounds from Race 1 at 12.04 pm to Race 11 at 3.03 pm. These dog races are worth 2k on average.

Why are the greyhounds receiving such favourable exclusive treatment on such a big day? 

 

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You can't be serious Trident.  Should they only be allowed on the wireless?  Or are you so stuck up that you wouldn't even allow them on there?  If they had put them on Trackside One, I could understand people complaining, but I find this complaint ridiculous.

Personally I find  the Gore races getting switched to Trackside Two later in the day annoying.

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15 minutes ago, Bimbo said:

You can't be serious Trident.  Should they only be allowed on the wireless?  Or are you so stuck up that you wouldn't even allow them on there?  If they had put them on Trackside One, I could understand people complaining, but I find this complaint ridiculous.

Personally I find  the Gore races getting switched to Trackside Two later in the day annoying.

 

All races at Gore are on Trackside 1. 

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32 minutes ago, Bimbo said:

You can't be serious Trident.  Should they only be allowed on the wireless?  Or are you so stuck up that you wouldn't even allow them on there?  If they had put them on Trackside One, I could understand people complaining, but I find this complaint ridiculous.

Personally I find  the Gore races getting switched to Trackside Two later in the day annoying.

Am I serious? Yes.

Should greyhounds only be allowed on the wireless? Absolutely not. You ask that sort of question yet claim my questioning was ridiculous.

I felt I explained my perspective with a degree of clarity. $2000 Greyhound races being on Trackside at peak time on a Saturday is not something I welcome. Greyhounds having a Trackside channel exclusively at peak time on a Saturday while Wellington Cup day has to share Trackside 2 with other venues seems wrong to me. During the week both day and night we have wall to wall greyhound racing. I appreciate some enjoy that but I personally don't. Having it now at peak time on a Saturday as well feels like saturation greyhound racing. I've noticed greyhound race meetings kicking in late on Saturday afternoons when the bulk of other feature races are completed and have no issue with it.

I don't dislike greyhound racing. I'm just not a fan of it from a punting or viewing perspective. Without being rude about it I'd be just as interested in Hippo,Hyena and Sheep racing if they showed that. I'm a dog lover,just not a lover of dog racing.

The exclusive coverage Trackside put up on NZ Cup Day at Addington was magnificent. Really showed off a superior product. Wellington Cup day deserves the same respect in my view. I won't lose sleep over it not happening but how does a greyhound meeting get it instead? 

Not certain why I haven't warmed to greyhound racing. In recent years they've had a lot of negative exposure. The discovery of large graves full with racing greyhounds that have either been shot or bashed to death. Australian vets expressing frustration at the number of very healthy greyhounds they are putting down every day who's only crime was not being able to run time. We've had the brutal live baiting and all that entails. Just last week a Wanganui greyhound trainer was sent to Prison for his actions against two young girls. I'm sure there are some wonderful people in the greyhound industry but if you are a neutral with no vested interest who is already frustrated at wall to wall greyhound racing these sorts of stories don't not get you excited about dog racing. 

If any meeting today was going to have a Trackside Channel exclusively I would have expected it to be Wellington Cup day, not a dog meeting but obviously that is ridiculous.

 

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I think Trident needs to be a little realistic. NZ trotting Cup day is on a day when nothing else happens. Today is a Saturday with lots of other races on. And seriously the Wgtn fields were not really that flash. 40 minute lead-ins to each race would have been a bit of a killer.

He does have a point about the greyhounds though. The more the trots and gallops relinquish dates and time slots the more the dogs will slip in and take them up. 

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So many tell me on here that racing is doomed,  sadly that is something I don't quite understand. You see the people that control what is put before the punter are rather more cleaver than what we are lead to believe.

It is call casino racing, just numbers of races regardless of what  the quality might be and what code it might be. See the purest that are left always complain we want this and that, but the money people at head office just know that the silly people, that been the compulsive gambler just need something to gamble on and they are catering for there needs.

As long as there is a horse or a dog to gamble on then someone will put money on. I'm sure if they could they would have snail races. 

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What's your problem Trident, if you didn't want to watch the greyhounds then just don't put in on Trackside 2, quite a simple solution really.

They were all finished by the time the Aussie wall to wall stuff started so they didn't take any airtime from a single gallops race all day.

Having the 2 gallop meetings on Trackside 1 was more than sufficient and was a fairly enjoyable watch.

Not quite sure what you are so hot under the collar about.

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14 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

What's your problem Trident, if you didn't want to watch the greyhounds then just don't put in on Trackside 2, quite a simple solution really.

They were all finished by the time the Aussie wall to wall stuff started so they didn't take any airtime from a single gallops race all day.

Having the 2 gallop meetings on Trackside 1 was more than sufficient and was a fairly enjoyable watch.

Not quite sure what you are so hot under the collar about.

To be fair though, Greyhound racing being shown on Trackside is really just a gap filler though,isn't it?

It is flippen annoying to me though on a Sunday afternoon, they whip straight over to the dogs at Manukau after a harness race.

Serious punters don't really back Greyhounds do they?

Nothing really against them, but it is really just a lottery at best the punting on them.

You can't really follow any sort of form whatsoever. If the dog jumps out first it normally wins as the races are so damned short, that you can't miss the jump and win.

Greyhound supporters can have a go at me as I have a thick skin.

 

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Your position is flawed in that you are looking at the industry solely from the point of view of wagering. In this, you are making the same mistake as the, according to you, clever people in control. However, you are at liberty to propose any scenario and "solutions" you wish to because, I assume, you are not mandated under legislation to foster the actual racing industry itself. Those in control are, and are in breach of their statutory duties by doing as they do.

All the best.

Ashoka

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Brodie

Take a look again at the Trentham results over the last 2 weeks, that's what lottery punting is like.

What you also meant to say is that you haven't figured out a way to win Greyhound betting. Your post contains a statement clearly based on your little knowledge that if you answer it then you will do very nicely from betting on Greyhounds.

I know a few who have answered it and do incredibly well, in fact 1 I know makes it his sole income earner.

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9 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

What's your problem Trident, if you didn't want to watch the greyhounds then just don't put in on Trackside 2, quite a simple solution really.

They were all finished by the time the Aussie wall to wall stuff started so they didn't take any airtime from a single gallops race all day.

Having the 2 gallop meetings on Trackside 1 was more than sufficient and was a fairly enjoyable watch.

Not quite sure what you are so hot under the collar about.

That's a bit rich coming from you WhoKnows. You routinely bag people if you see something you feel is not right.

I didn't expect Wellington Cup day to be exclusively covered on one Trackside channel but if that was ever going to happen on a Saturday I would have thought a premier day such as Wellington Cup day would have been the benefactor.

Personally I don't enjoy the wall to wall racing. I actually find it boring as so many features are lost in their quest to service compulsive gamblers. I prefer quality over quantity which is why I enjoyed the coverage of Addington NZ Cup day.

I just don't understand in a climate of round the clock wall to wall racing that we have now accepted as the status quo we would have a situation where a Greyhound meeting had an entire Trackside channel exclusively to themselves peak time on a Saturday. That would be like winning the lottery for other codes so I didn't understand why the greyhounds received such favourable treatment. It's cool that others don't agree but I don't think my take on it is as out there as some are suggesting. 

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I don't think you will find many thoroughbred purists that were upset at the coverage of the main meeting along with  Gore yesterday?

they seemed to have covered everything without being cut off to go to the next race?

i think you will find if you look at the turnover for the dogs yesterday you will see it wasn't that much more than a normal midweek or Sunday meeting.

like I said earlier if you didn't want to watch them then you didn't have to, just stick to TS1, most people did and a lot wouldn't have even known there was a dog meeting on.

the dog meeting took nothing away from the 2 galloping meetings so I don't really see the problem.

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