GONSTA 1,148 Report post Posted January 6, 2016 I see in Victoria a trainer has been caught with 2 dogs returning positive to cobalt, anyone know if they are testing for it here? Every time I hear the RIU talking about it they say the 'two codes' ( thorougbreds, harness ) which makes me believe they are oblivious to it all. cheers for any info. gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONSTA 1,148 Report post Posted January 6, 2016 Just to expand a bit more, I would be shocked it cobalt / EPO isn't being used by certain people in NZ, especially with no blood testing / out of competition testing / the RIU's lack of wanting to get a clean sport. I personally know of a number of dogs that have dropped dead after having a race / training gallop over the last few years, I personally believe it wouldn't happen as much as it has if a dog is running clean. They are similar to an athlete, and it's certainly not normal for someone to be in peak physical condition and drop dead after exercising. IMO. I would love nothing more than having a clean industry and I believe it all starts with the RIU, bring in MANDATORY blood swabs and start testing all the winners and start doing random O.O.C testing ASAP. That is if the trainers, owners, punters want a level playing field!! If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about. With the amount of money the RIU spends each year and the amount of self praise they give themselves I personally believe they are a bit of a joke and need a major reform. Anyone that follows drugs in sport as closely as I do knows there will always be people pushing the boundaries, especially when $$ is involved. Micro dosing EPO / HGH is the 'new' thing when it comes to most professional sports, but with a proper integrity unit and drug testing regime I'm adamant we deserve far far better than what they are doing currently. Yankiwi and iteruka 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 On 1/6/2016 at 8:27 AM, GONSTA said: I see in Victoria a trainer has been caught with 2 dogs returning positive to cobalt, anyone know if they are testing for it here? Every time I hear the RIU talking about it they say the 'two codes' ( thorougbreds, harness ) which makes me believe they are oblivious to it all. cheersthe for any info. interesting to see the 2 horse trainers kavanagh and obrien got 3 and 4 years i wonder what the greyhound trainers would get also will be interesting to see what the greyhound trainer in sydney will get 4 the epo positive if proven Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 From what I have been told they do not test greyhound for it in nz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONSTA 1,148 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, I know said: From what I have been told they do not test greyhound for it in nz According to Mike Goober they do, and have been for about a year... He then blatantly ignored my two next messages asking what the limit was... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 The cheats will think of a cunning plan to work this into the diet We have the poppy seeds on bread for morphine and caffeine in the kibble. Maybe in milk powder next????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter R S 408 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 What garbage. How would you deal with your reputation being affected by something out of your control? Eagle Eye and Slim Shady 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on ref 155 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Three times actually caught mighty unlucky to buy and use the only kibble to have caffeine in it but have green tea extracts in. Everyone else manages to presents drug free dogs and win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...