GONSTA 1,148 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 WTF?! How many ml's of rain have they received today? Has been an absolute perfect week of weather in Hawkes Bay for what should have been an ideal track. Someone needs to be held accountable for this cock up, because quite simply it is not good enough. I understand jockey welfare always comes first, but this is just a disgrace IMO. Doesn't help i was up for a 4 figure collect on Kawi at $5... The overs curse strikes again. Memphis2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWJR 17 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Will the Windsor be run on a different day? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM 225 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 What a joke, when are we going to see heads rolling at NZTR, what does the dollars we spend on a track inspector bring, premier day and we are a laughing stock AGAIN! racingsouthdude 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda kratchanova 2 501 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 what happened did some idoit leave the sprinkler on? there's always cronulla sharks 13+ reallyM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nek minute 296 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 group 1 day what a pack of idiots. did i hear something about water been put on it during the week?? i think i remember beven sweeney saying something yesterday?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Thistle 133 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Trackside Friday afternoon showed an interview by Sweeney of the track manager, who said they put 16mm of water on the track during the week as it was Good 3. The idea was to have the track Dead 4 at the start of racing, and absorbent, so that if rain arrived as forecast on raceday the track wouldn't become a skating rink. Avoiding a potential problem created an unintended one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant R 348 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Ross Neal on trackside interview this morning with Aiden Rodley said the track was in fantastic condition the club has done a wonderful job watering it ?????????????????????????????? WTFF bloke, racingsouthdude and Black Kirrama 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 gubellini, Cubes, chevy86 and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Is it a coincidence that Butch Castles moved to Hawkes Bay at the start of July. I can't recall a meeting at HB ever being called off in recent times, could be wrong though might be a lot of pies to dispose of Black Kirrama and bloke 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,720 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Unbelievable elbow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess 1,244 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Apologies for duplicate post below .. the site (or my computer) is being a bit cranky! .. maybe overloaded with the Hastings abandonment .... Bloody hell. How disappointing for a good many people.No issue with the decision today given what the stipes were faced with. However how did we get to this? I understand the watering during the week from point of view of "insurance" in the face of forecast rain on the day ... and the consensus seems to be that most of the track was in lovely order. Question remains - what happened to that patch? Makes me wonder if there is something amiss/faulty with the irrigation equipment meaning that an area got overwatered?? Pretty embarrassing though for one of the nation's biggest racedays .... and anyone will struggle to blame the weather this time .... von Smallhaussen, racingsouthdude, Peter Jenkins and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,842 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Tony Pike certainly wasn't impressed was he...?! Difficult decision I guess as safety is paramount, but calling off a major race day because one horse slipped..?? The Aussies are raging about it too apparently...."NZ Racing is a disgrace....etc..." And where is Castles in all this....?? Too busy at the Buffet....?? GONSTA, THE TORCH, racingsouthdude and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHindsight 117 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 No excuse works, this just adds to the list of why you would want to avoid NZ racing. aquaman and GONSTA 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,710 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Too many tracks in NZ seem to have no camber on the bends ( in fact almost reverse camber) so that when the grass (which is usually too bloody long) retains a bit of moisture you have this ongoing fiasco. The long grass nice cushion WHEN IT IS DRY. THE TORCH 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukemoe 22 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 What about the owners and trainers guys, once again they are taking the slack. Ya really do get annoyed with this, never used to hear of abandonments - seems that these guys are trying to be clever and its not paying off....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzy 143 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Chevy the first 5 words of your post are the most important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbets 206 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 What is wrong with racing tomorrow. When I was in the racing game we never had watering and we never had any abandonments that I can recall and that was over 25yrs of racing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Just rang the club to ask about racing tomorrow or Monday and was told discussions are onging, but they definately won't be racing there in the next few days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,089 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 "I am unaware of any safety issues at any racecourses in New Zealand and if these jockeys have a problem they should come and talk to me about it." Yeahh right Greg. You'd hardly think anyone else including jockeys should need to tell you directly. It's blatantly obvious to the rest of the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Has the Morty case got the stipes flustered ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 TIGER TIM (J Riddell) slipped free of interference losing momentum entering the final straight. A meeting was convened with all riders following this event where concerns were expressed with respect to the shifting nature of the racing surface. After a further meeting with club officials and riders the stewards deemed the racing surface unsafe and abandoned the meeting at 1.54pm. Unbelievable!!! Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 http://www.theinformant.co.nz/racing/QC42369/Castles-working-to-find-solution-for-abandoned-features Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 So we had a good 3 track Tuesday morning with no rain I believe, since. Yet the track turns out Shifty with horses slipping. So what caused this??? Oh... they irrigated on three consecutive days Tues, Weds, Thurs leading into today. I wonder what could have caused this problem then............anyone have any answers?? Black Kirrama and Peter Jenkins 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Of course Weigh In should be up and running instead of still to return from a six month break and boy wouldn't it have been interesting. The Butcher's Hook segment would surely have seen Butch giving himself an almighty upper cut!!! Wouldn't it have!!! racingsouthdude, THE TORCH and Black Kirrama 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right first time 1,923 Report post Posted September 19, 2015 Racing clubs that stuff-up this badly should have their licence to run race meetings withdrawn for 12 months. Absolutely appalling. Those that can do ...those that can't ...get themselves removed from the equation to give them adequate time to wake their ideas up. Absolutely appalling. As several have commented, I don't recall meeting abandonments like the number we are getting now ... in the '60s, 70s, and '80s when my interest in horse-racing was at its peak. People obviously knew what they were doing then. The march of time certainly doesn't necessarily mean progress, certainly not in NZ horse-racing. Absolutely appalling. chevy86, Grego and Huey 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...