Irish 270 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Well done to the Addictive Habit team and Lee in particular - one of nature's gentlemen - who deserves every success that comes his way. Black Kirrama, hedley, Michael Roustoby and 5 others 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall 147 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Yes a well deserved win by horse and Trainer and a lovely ride by Sam Spratt well done to all Chestnut, Centrofold, ADM and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrofold 147 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 I was rapt. TAB put $5 into my account yesterday and I had the insight to back Addictive Habit, so thanks to the Addictive Habit team Black Kirrama and Chestnut 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrofold 147 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Sorry TAB forgot my manners - Thank You Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Yes indeed congratulations to Lee and connections. A super win. However the race day was ruined by the presentation of a man made fast strip again. Not one horse won coming from the back half of the field. The bias makes a mockery of fair racing as I have pointed out many times previously. ie the shifting of the running rail creating these fast lanes. An Australian punter sent me an e-mail after R3 which simply said "No confidence in Te Rapa track. Cue has gone back in the rack. Quiet day for me." Ashoka, Michael Roustoby and Peter Jenkins 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Kirrama 1,513 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 When Fleur won The Foxbridge Plate, 3 years ago, it was a group 3 badly in need of an upgrade to at least Group 2. $42k was the winners purse. Cody (That's him in The Pic )won $62,000 today. Sam has had 3 rides on him for two wins. He's a wonderful horse and Lee thought he might have been a little underdone for today. Excuses for some behind him today, but that can be said for many races that Addictive Habit has bullyed his way to win. The Trainer ( who turns 70 on October 10th ) is looking at cheap air fares to Melbourne. He Might even take a horse or 3, just for fun. This racing game is a very Addictive Habit. Look out Taupo on Wednesday. bloke 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut 3,152 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Fantastic win.. class horse of the field that looked very healthy parading.. yet no-one on trackside even mentioned him.. he was too powerful and the interview with Sam Spratt said it all she was speechless really because she didn't have any idea where on the track she was running, and I don't think it would have mattered where he was on the track, he was too good Class. Black Kirrama and porky 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 The ground has been protected Hesi with the rail having been out. The ground where the rail was previously out is worn and torn from the previous racing. Try running on rough ground and then on smoother ground and note the difference. Added to that factor was the ground where the running rail is in the true position at Te Rapa dries out quicker (possibly due to the drains nearby.) Therefore if you are running on a smoother, firmer surface it is a huge advantage than running on a rougher slower surface. gubellini and Ashoka 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut 3,152 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Ted, it was one of the last races of the day... jockeys had raced on it all day, Sam Spratt said it all .. the track was what it was - they didn't know where the best running was.. so the best horse won on the day.. you can't do scenarios based on that track, they just had to make do with what they had to run on and that finish was too good and they were spread over that track. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 You obviously didn't hear comments of other riders earlier in the day Chestnut ie Leith Innes and Trudy Thornton. Watching the races told you where to be and this was repeatedly highlighted throughout the day by Steve Davis, Darryl Anderson and George Simon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut 3,152 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Yes I did Ted.. but if they all knew that.. then even more kudos to Sam and Addictive Habit or are your posts on this thread all about her not being in the right place and not deserving the win.. because I'm a bit lost.... Sam clearly said that they didn't really know.. if everyone else knew where they should be on their horses then I guess the excuses should be few. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Not all Chestnut, I fail to understand how you reach that conclusion. It was a wonderful win as I stated above and congratulations again to connections. A wonderful training feat by Lee and terrific performance by Addictive Habit. Hesi, the last time the rail was in the True position was for the meeting on 24 April. The last five meetings have been out 4m, 8m, 12m, 6m and 10m. gubellini 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Teds right about the fast strip.But don't understand the Aussie putting his cue away as it narrowed down the chances and was easier to pick winners today.The ones that should feel abit annoyed are some of the owners and trainers that had no show with the racing bias.Congratulations to the AH win considering he's only won one 1200 m race and that was as a 2 yr old..Maybe just maybe AH is on his way to being as good as Roughie. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Superb training feat by Lee! Track bias/fast strip can't detract from this training effort.Drew 13/14/ Back from 1600 to 1200 m/ Up in weight.Top horses find a way to win! Winning becomes a "habit" for them! puha and Black Kirrama 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Back in those days Hesi the running rails were fixed and not moveable. The moving of the running rail is no doubt one reason of creating race day bias. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny 1,224 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Chestnut has a very good point - NZs Premier Hoop has for years worked the fast lane - just took years for others to work it out - I asked myself after 2 races yesterday what the hell were some riders doing - it was there and obvious - why do most not react - I am lost chelseacol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 I was bemused by Steve Davis comments just prior to the race saying that there was a good crowd in. From watching on TV the public stand looked to be about 20% full. Haven't times changed as to what constitutes a good crowd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted August 17, 2015 Ventured to the Te rapa tavern Friday night 5 mins from the course and the set up with screens was brilliant somehow they have too replicate this oncourse. Approx 30 late model screens with a quality sound and all the latest info .Contrast oncourse inthe members bar 3 or so new screens and the rest the old square box TVs with limited info and very hard to hear anything.Seriously in need of an upgrade.Heres hoping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzy 143 Report post Posted August 17, 2015 Well done to the Addictive Habit team, under rated horse. Did Kawi deserve to be relegated ?? Seemed a tough call to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted August 17, 2015 Well done to the Addictive Habit team, under rated horse. Did Kawi deserve to be relegated ?? Seemed a tough call to me. if you were on whosyourmaster you would probably say yes fitzy,would of gone very close to winning if not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE 1,877 Report post Posted August 17, 2015 Maybe just maybe AH is on his way to being as good as Roughie. porky 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted August 17, 2015 . Fair to go I realise but hey you just never know. N1MUE and porky 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted August 17, 2015 Fair go - you couldn't mention them in the same breath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzy 143 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 if you were on whosyourmaster you would probably say yes fitzy,would of gone very close to winning if not If you were on Whosyourmaster its unlikley your opinion will be unbiased Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 It's j Fair go - you couldn't mention them in the same breath.. It's just a bad habit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
