GONSTA 1,148 Report post Posted June 11, 2015 How embarrassing to only have 13 starters for a 26k G1 race... I see the bookies still have the futures option open with Willis still in the market, a decent oppourtunity to back a few and make some $$... I wonder if bookies will refund any bets placed on Willis? They did refund a 10k bet on opie in the jockey challenge not long ago! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted June 11, 2015 Shouldnt be group one in my opinion, the heats are weak. Its only a matter of how many lengths kilchurn wins by Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetic 124 Report post Posted June 11, 2015 This is crazy, so many good nz bred dogs around.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi 782 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 How embarrassing to only have 13 starters for a 26k G1 race... Not that long ago, a 755m G1 race at Wanganui had only 14 noms and it went straight to a final. Tonight there are heats for a 520m G1 race with 14 noms. Is someone making up the rules as they go along? Ashoka, aquaman, Ravendog and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Yankiwi... I take it that your question is rhetorical. All the best. Ashoka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi 782 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Yankiwi... I take it that your question is rhetorical. All the best. Ashoka You can call my question what you'd like. Has there been a change in policy? Are G1 520m heats/finals treated differently than G1 755m heats/finals for final field selection? Are the KPI figures less important for 520m races than 755m races? When I'm traveling at 100kph down the road & I try to shift my car into reverse, I hear something much noisier than a squeaky gear in need of a drop of oil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Yankiwi... Your postings suggest that you keep a close eye on what goes on in the greyhound racing industry and sport. The reason that I believe that your question is rhetorical is that you must know by now that those running the greyhound industry and sport do whatever they want to, regardless of the Rules, and that those involved in the greyhound industry and sport let them get away with whatever it is they do. Regards. Ashoka gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
it's a ballroom 174 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Again Yankiwi , please get it right and do some research. If you got a copy of the on track magazine , read the conditions for this race. i quote " All nominated greyhounds are to receive a heat start " un qoute. I am not saying this is right , but those are the rules clearly set out. Tony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi 782 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Again Yankiwi , please get it right and do some research. If you got a copy of the on track magazine , read the conditions for this race. i quote " All nominated greyhounds are to receive a heat start " un qoute. I am not saying this is right , but those are the rules clearly set out. Tony Get what right? I've only asked some questions. Were they the wrong questions? Geesh. However cheers for pointing out the reason for the differences. It's why I asked the questions in the first place. aquaman, it's a ballroom, GONSTA and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 it's a ballroom... The conditions for every race have to be approved by the NZGRA before they are published in the industry magazine. Can you explain why the conditions for this race were approved when they contradict the instructions issued to all Clubs regarding the carding of less-than-optimum fields? Yankiwi's question still stands. All the best. Ashoka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Fan 577 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 I believe it is quite simple......nz bred series races, the breeders and sires are funded by greyhound nz and not the racing board so do not have to meet the 8 dog field as others do ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 Hound Fan... The NZGRA are bulk-funded by the NZRB. All stakes are paid by the NZGRA. The NZGRA decide such things as stake levels and race conditions. The distinction that you have made does not exist. All the best. Ashoka GONSTA 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
it's a ballroom 174 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 Ashoka you have just agreed with Houndfan I think . If I read it right you are saying the NZGRA decide race conditions and that is what Houndfan is saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 it's a ballroom... Hound Fan is drawing a distinction that does not exist in order to explain the difference in the treatment of the two events in question. HF is saying that the NZGRA fund one event and the NZRB fund the other. That is not so, as NZGRA funds all events, so the explanation provided by Hound Fan is incorrect. The NZGRA also have final say on all race conditions, so the question raised by Yankiwi still stands unanswered. All the best. Ashoka GONSTA 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ownagreyhound.co.nz 52 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 Perhaps another example of rules not being followed correctly. A couple of points to be acknowledged here. Just because you a guaranteed a heat start, it doesn't mean that the heat needs to be a TAB race The people/persons that made the decision as to whether they could run less than 8 in each field in the breeders, I am lead to believe, were different to the people/person that made the decision in the staying race I personally believe in this case the correct decision was made for two tab heats, and the wrong decision was made in the staying race. - ie - there should have been two heats Commonsense might suggest that blanket policy that covers field sizes, is probably not appropriate when a group 1 heat is treated the same as a maiden race. JETSUN, Ashoka, Yankiwi and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Symes 124 Report post Posted June 15, 2015 So does this stupid rule also mean there can never be another 4 dog Shoot Out type race ? aquaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...