Poker Bets

[lad27 404]

Time for a topic about punting.

Poker bets have been about for along time but never really got the hang of them, however use to go 50/50 with a mate on a $3 poker 4 but only cleaned up once as were all win bets.

Lately I've been going through fields and trying to pick rougher place bets for a $2 poker 3. $8 outlay means three chosen races and if you miss one leg you will still get a return. Twice I've picked a $4 place shot, missed the next and $2.80 place shot comes in and its money back and abit more.

 

Last Thursday I did $2 poker 3, all win bets for a change.

Opawa Extreme $2.80

Country Crossing $1.60

Aiden Baxter $1.30

Got a return of $30, which I was pretty stoked with.

Have done a poker four and a poker 3 over different races at Palmy today. Slows any extra spending on all races as it's my day off, its raining and I do enjoy a punt on my day off.

Would like to hear anyone's thoughts on this bet type.

By the way had a go at the triple trio as well last thursday, missed one anchor in the first leg and got the rest dam it!

[DC9 203]

Any bet that you can get to make money is a good one, doesn't matter what type!

[Racing84 254]

I like poker bets and used to take them regularly. Given a Poker 4 is essentially 11 all up bets, and the tote pools on dog racing are generally small, they're probably more suitable for the small punter than the big punter as a decent all-up tends to destroy the odds of the later legs.

Good to be able to follow a few races though on one bet without all races having to come in, unlike a multi or place 6 where you can be gone in the first leg.

If you want to have a decent punt of an all-up nature you're probably better to play the fixed odds - even though going fixed odds usually means you get unders, it's better than cannibalising your price by going into a small tote pool.

[dustydreamnz 493]

I couldn't make a profit of these in the long run lad27 despite them being a fun bet type.  

I always use a decent sample size for recording my bets of each bet type and while I didn't lose much, it must return a profit for me to continue to use it.  

I have 7 bet types I'm currently using with First 4s the most profitable from Eachway then Trebles.  

I was a fair way down on Quaddies but changed technique and now am -11.  The other 6 bet types are in the positive so will continue to use them although with large sample sizes for most of these, I'm thinking of dropping a few because I'm not much in the black.  

I do the same for tracks and found the South Island was too difficult so gave up on those 3 tracks and only use the 4 North Island tracks now where Palmy has been the most profitable followed by Waikato, Auckland then Wanganui.  

Always enjoy these threads.   

[lad27 404]

Funny enough Dusty, Palmy is my best punting track as well mate. Will have a crack today but new starting boxes down there today mate ( not sure if both distances ) so will make things interesting.

Pokers been good to me so far lately so will keep plugging away

[Lowdown 299]

Whats the quaddie technique thats working for u dusty? The thing that has really changed my punting style over the years has been the advent of % betting, and its probably not always a good thing, where I used to be forced to 'go skinny' and get trebles etc multiple times over now u can be inclined to spread ur bets more, or add in others u wouldn't of in pre % betting times. On the poker bets I agree they can be suitable for some but I personally found that even after a good collect off one I would still have a bitter sweet feeling that if id just spent that amount 'all upping' them all I would've made considerably more! Im always up for punting chats dusty!

[dustydreamnz 493]

Whats the quaddie technique thats working for u dusty? The thing that has really changed my punting style over the years has been the advent of % betting, and its probably not always a good thing, where I used to be forced to 'go skinny' and get trebles etc multiple times over now u can be inclined to spread ur bets more, or add in others u wouldn't of in pre % betting times. On the poker bets I agree they can be suitable for some but I personally found that even after a good collect off one I would still have a bitter sweet feeling that if id just spent that amount 'all upping' them all I would've made considerably more! Im always up for punting chats dusty!

I love percentage betting because I like to chase smaller percentages of big dividends.  I was taking too many dogs before and getting big quaddies but it was costing me a lot so now I spend less chasing the small dividends.  I narrow one leg down to 2 runners where I'm most confident and take as many as I think I need in the other 3 legs.  eg 2 x 5 x 6 x field.  

I've been going well on sum of rugs but was 0 from 5 today haha, unlucky in 3 of them.  

[lad27 404]

Nailed one tonight, $2 place poker three, cost $8

 

Another Plane $4.50

Homebush Olive $2.50

Wellywood $2.00

 

Return $95.50

[Lowdown 299]

Well done lad thats an awesome result for you! But like I said in my earlier post if that's me im half kicking myself because an $8 all up gets u $180! So ur halving ur return just for the security of getting 2outa3 which is usually money back ish.

[lad27 404]

Perfect for my type of punting. Next poker 3 I did was race 5/6/7.

First leg $4.80, second leg $3, third leg last. $28 return for my $8. Like the safety net, why I haven't done more in past is beyond me.

[dustydreamnz 493]

Perfect for my type of punting. Next poker 3 I did was race 5/6/7.

First leg $4.80, second leg $3, third leg last. $28 return for my $8. Like the safety net, why I haven't done more in past is beyond me.

I can see both sides, if you take all favourites it's probably not worth it but if you land 1 or 2 roughies it quickly multiplies like most bet types.  

Looking back at when I took poker bets, I probably didn't take enough roughies.  

[lad27 404]

Nailed another one today!

 

Race 7 - Bigtime Chip $3.80 - thought had chance from inside with clear racing room.

Race 8 - Bontany Zenvo, $2.50 - box 3, seven starts with five placings - thank you very much.

Race 9 - Manyana Groper, $4.90 - stoked with tote price and caught my eye a race I watched few Mondays ago hence putting him in.

 

$2 poker three, cost $8 = $173.80 - You F#@ing beauty!

 

Starting to really like these poker bets big time!

[Lowdown 299]

$8 all up gets you $372!! Lol. Just winding you up lad. Great week for you!

[hooters 12]

I like poker bets and used to take them regularly. Given a Poker 4 is essentially 11 all up bets, and the tote pools on dog racing are generally small, they're probably more suitable for the small punter than the big punter as a decent all-up tends to destroy the odds of the later legs.

Good to be able to follow a few races though on one bet without all races having to come in, unlike a multi or place 6 where you can be gone in the first leg.

If you want to have a decent punt of an all-up nature you're probably better to play the fixed odds - even though going fixed odds usually means you get unders, it's better than cannibalising your price by going into a small tote pool.

I do multis- use the "any 2" option to have the same effect as "poker bets" and use percentage betting at times to reduce overall cost. I find i get  better prices  on many odds especially earllier in the day .

[Gruff 2,793]

$8 all up gets you $372!! Lol. Just winding you up lad. Great week for you!

....how many times you get 2/3 or 3/4 etc in multis,tough gig,at least the poker gives you a consolation prize with a loss.....i had a poker 4 once (.50c)started with a $300 quinella (box 3 horses )next 3bets were places on 2/3 favs ...all ran 4th....i was counting my chickens before they hatched,always a bad move . Keep up the good work lad !