Hard Luck...

[Goodlobster 0]

Well you know what the problem is don't you Isaac, in regard to there being a lack of intelligent debate, the AB's won, and they won convincingly...TWICE....so that's left dozens of regulars on here with nothing to complain about, as that's all they're good for.

Graham Henry and the likes of Nonu are proving them all wrong and they don't know which way to turn.

I have no time for losers like myk who wrote the AB's off before the SA Tests and didn't have the balls to back it up when challenged.

Man up and admit to being wrong CT

Others however try a Schuster like sidestep when cornered.....I present Exhibit A from the Ma'a thread..

CT tells Jezza "It's ridiculous that you would want Ma'a to have a developed kicking game"

Rooboy digs up a CT quote "How much more effective would Ma'a be if he had a tactical kicking game"

Jezza chuckles loudly.. HO HO HO

CT came back with something along the lines of "I meant for the Canes because of their Blah Blah Blah, I'm a Wealth of Knowledge Blah Blah Blah Tactics at Scrumtime Blah Blah Blah hang on one of my other personalities wants a turn on the computer Blah Blah Blah" attempted sidestep.

PS I still think on their day the 9,10 and 12 combination the Wallabies have are class...pity they won't get good go forward ball to show it often enough

Cheers

Jezza

[rosemary telephone operator 1]

Man up and admit to being wrong CT

Jezza

If, and that's a big if, I ever was wrong then you can be assured that I would be on here straight away admitting it.

But I'm not going to admit to a comment that has been taken and used entirely out of context and especially when THAT comment was factually correct when applied in its proper context.

So there!:tongue:

[Cat 25]

Hurry up Cat, surely a rugby guru such as yourself has an opinion on the Wallabies/ Boks game.

Well Zak,a 'rugby guru' such as myself,would show some professionalism and wait until both sides were officially named,to start with.Being a Wednesday its probably too early to get a good gauge on both sides and of course the weather!

Of course,a succesful pro punter like yourself would know these things:D

My gut instinct at the moment though,for what its worth,having seen the Ozzies in June and the Boks the last two weeks,is that it will be close.I reckon the fresher state of the Aussies will set them in good stead but I cant go past the fact that the Boks will monster them in the forwards.

How much pill Aussies get will determine by how much they lose by.Less than 30% possession and it will be a slaughter.If they can get some scraps then the Australian backs can be lethal,but counter that with the rushing 'D' of the Boks.

On a Wednesday,not seeing the sides,not knowing the weather,I'll say Boks by 15.

Would you safely put money on that?

[zak 0]

Of course you could also suspect that the prices were wrong,and back the Wallabies at 2.22 and above,and then lay them at 1.95. Thus locking in a profit with still quite a few hours to go until kick off.

[Properispomenon 1]

Well Zak,a 'rugby guru' such as myself,would show some professionalism and wait until both sides were officially named,to start with.Being a Wednesday its probably too early to get a good gauge on both sides and of course the weather!

Of course,a succesful pro punter like yourself would know these things:D

My gut instinct at the moment though,for what its worth,having seen the Ozzies in June and the Boks the last two weeks,is that it will be close.I reckon the fresher state of the Aussies will set them in good stead but I cant go past the fact that the Boks will monster them in the forwards.

How much pill Aussies get will determine by how much they lose by.Less than 30% possession and it will be a slaughter.If they can get some scraps then the Australian backs can be lethal,but counter that with the rushing 'D' of the Boks.

On a Wednesday,not seeing the sides,not knowing the weather,I'll say Boks by 15.

Would you safely put money on that?

cat, methinks I'll just watch that game with no bets at all...

Australia might have these razzle-dazzle backs they keep raving on about but they rarely seem to use them. Watch any of their back three with a long ball kicked to them - whereas their New Zealand counterparts would at least look at the possibility of a counter-attack, the Wallaby instinct is to kick...

[rosemary telephone operator 1]

.... the Wallaby instinct is to kick...

And that's all down to the coaching inabilities of Robbie Deans!

His Super Rugby success was based around a powerful set of forwards and backs who used to kick the ball at every opportunity. He hasn't got a clue when it comes to developing counter-attacking play and all of his shortcomings are coming home to bite him on the ar$e!

I bet you anything you like that if he was the AB's coach our back three would consist of 3 fullbacks who can kick the ball instead of a specialist FB and two specialist wingers like Cory Jane and Israel Dagg!:\

Ho ho ho....2009....the year of the Wallaby!

[myk 4]

And that's all down to the coaching inabilities of Robbie Deans!

His Super Rugby success was based around a powerful set of forwards and backs who used to kick the ball at every opportunity. He hasn't got a clue when it comes to developing counter-attacking play and all of his shortcomings are coming home to bite him on the ar$e!

I bet you anything you like that if he was the AB's coach our back three would consist of 3 fullbacks who can kick the ball instead of a specialist FB and two specialist wingers like Cory Jane and Israel Dagg!:\

Ho ho ho....2009....the year of the Wallaby!

Mr Tosser,how do you call Israel Dagg a specialist winger,when interviewed after the game he told us all, that is the first game he's played on the wing.I know it's rude of me to question your rugby knowledge,but again you are wrong and shown everyone what a tosser you really are.

[rosemary telephone operator 1]

Mr Tosser,how do you call Israel Dagg a specialist winger,when interviewed after the game he told us all, that is the first game he's played on the wing.I know it's rude of me to question your rugby knowledge,but again you are wrong and shown everyone what a tosser you really are.

Oh for crying out loud!

Anyone that knows even a little bit about Dagg knows that wing is where he has played the most of his rugby!

Please get with the programme!

[myk 4]

Oh for crying out loud!

Anyone that knows even a little bit about Dagg knows that wing is where he has played the most of his rugby!

Please get with the programme!

I can only repeat what he tells Ian Smith,I'm sure he doesn't talk crap or lies like you,tugger.

[Memphis 1]

The Swannies also look good for the 8.

so this time Tommo.Going to Chch.

Yes I was glad I didnt come down for the Tigers game.One of the lads went down and copped it mercilessly from the Tiger lads we know.Fair enough too as they had copped plenty over the last few years from us.

Reiwoldt certainly is turning into a champ.

Good punting but stay away from them odds on shots:D

[Chris Horse Stopper 0]

so this time Tommo.Going to Chch.

Yes I was glad I didnt come down for the Tigers game.One of the lads went down and copped it mercilessly from the Tiger lads we know.Fair enough too as they had copped plenty over the last few years from us.

Reiwoldt certainly is turning into a champ.

Good punting but stay away from them odds on shots:D

The young pool of talent is starting to gain some confidence and Hardwick looks to be developing a promising side but probably still a couple of years away from making the 8.

You might have to make an appearance down here for the Spring Carnival when Black Caviar returns.

Enjoy your trip back to NZ.

Can't wait to see the All Blacks carve up under the roof.

[Dilligaf. 0]

Well Zak,a 'rugby guru' such as myself. I reckon the fresher state of the Aussies will set them in good stead but I cant go past the fact that the Boks will monster them in the forwards.

On a Wednesday,not seeing the sides,not knowing the weather,I'll say Boks by 15.

Would you safely put money on that?

Well hasn't that put the ABs win in context.

Seems the Boks are not a very good yardstick for seeing how you're team are going, currently.

And yes, I am enjoying my breakfast and it certainly is a beaut day.

[Memphis 1]

hahha Dilido next week will be the real yardstick.

I think bonus points could be the telling factor this year and we have got them.

Ozi looked good in patchs but the Box,after being badly bashed by the ABs,were on the rack for a beating.

In the Sun Herald this morning no mention of the game at all.Not even the result.

Sad state of affairs I say.We got all the usual Rugby Rape dramas though.6 pages of

[zak 0]

Memphis, interesting that you should think that the Boks were on the rack for a beating having been bashed by the AB,s after you had stated before the game that you did not think the Wallabies could beat the Boks.

What changed your mind? The result I suppose.

[zak 0]

Boks by 15 was it Cat.

No doubt you would have changed your mind after the teams were named and the weather conditions were known and tipped a comfortable win to the Wallabies.

One thing that was known to most people a week before the game was that the Boks had just had 2 very physical games v the AB,s and had come a bad 2nd in both. In addition they proved to be tactically inept in both games.

Hardly in their favour as they headed to Brisbane where they havent won in god knows how long.

Cat sometimes the early bird gets the worm.

The surprising thing to me was the early prices which had the Boks as favourites, before sanity prevailed.

[rosemary telephone operator 1]

Dear oh dear Zak.....someone seems a little uptight, a little angry even...feeling the need to crow about a single success.

Now I wonder why that might be?

Did someone take a decent hit in the back pocket with the Paki's beating Oz?

Ho ho ho......no doubt you'll deny it zak...but that's ok, we all know you never tell the truth.

[zak 0]

Fair dinkum Chris when you lay the draw you dont usually lose when there is a result.

[rosemary telephone operator 1]

Fair dinkum Chris when you lay the draw you dont usually lose when there is a result.

Yep....true to form zak.

[Cat 25]

Well hasn't that put the ABs win in context.

Seems the Boks are not a very good yardstick for seeing how you're team are going, currently.

And yes, I am enjoying my breakfast and it certainly is a beaut day.

Certainly seems as though the Boks have capitulated unbelievably in 12 months.

I saw Kankowski named at 7 and they persevered with the massively over rated Spies at 8,I thought then that it may be sign that not all was right.

I still thought the Boks would pull it off but credit to Aussie.It will make this weekends game very interesting.

Shame Quade Cooper will probably be ruled out.Cant wait!

[Cat 25]

Boks by 15 was it Cat.

No doubt you would have changed your mind after the teams were named and the weather conditions were known and tipped a comfortable win to the Wallabies.

One thing that was known to most people a week before the game was that the Boks had just had 2 very physical games v the AB,s and had come a bad 2nd in both. In addition they proved to be tactically inept in both games.

Hardly in their favour as they headed to Brisbane where they havent won in god knows how long.

Cat sometimes the early bird gets the worm.

The surprising thing to me was the early prices which had the Boks as favourites, before sanity prevailed.

You are so full of it your eyes are brown.

What a tosser

[Properispomenon 1]

Hmmm, let's see...

2009 Tri Nations

New Zealand play South Africa twice in South Africa. South Africa wins Tri Nations

2010 Tri Nations

New Zealand play South Africa twice in New Zealand. New Zealand...?

Bring on the Quad Nations (or whatever they call it) and we are back to a far more equitable just one home and one away game against any given team...

[Von Cettes 685]

So finishing first and second in the Super 14, isnt really a true indication of form.

And to the bloke who put a 100k on South Africa to win the Tri Nations......oh deary me.......lets put a 100k on them when their first 3 games are played away from home.

I see there were 3 interesting blokes in the suncorp crowd watching on.

And what about Robbie giving the window a bit of a tap, the emotion starting to come out.

Can't wait for the AB's to punish the Wallabies this weekend, it will be on with my AB's gear, and stiring up the natives....... the daggers they give you, it's priceless.

[rosemary telephone operator 1]

..... massively over rated Spies at 8.....

Isn't he Cat! Probably the most overrated player to come out of SA since Bobby Skinstad.

They both have that, 'looking like Tarzan but playing like Jane' thing about them.

Personally, I think these revised rules will last only as long as the World Cup and then they'll get changed.

The game now is all about continuity and there's only 2-3 nations that can play that game effectively....us, Oz and France when they put their minds to it.

Other countries that favour the set plays will see that the more traditional game is reinstated once we regain the World Cup.

You can take that to the bank!

[myk 4]

Dear oh dear Zak.....someone seems a little uptight, a little angry even...feeling the need to crow about a single success.

Now I wonder why that might be?

Did someone take a decent hit in the back pocket with the Paki's beating Oz?

Ho ho ho......no doubt you'll deny it zak...but that's ok, we all know you never tell the truth.]

Takes a liar to know a liar?

[zak 0]

Fair enough Cat, I was only having a dig at you re your comments about me making an "early' call on the game.

No offence intended.