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Just thought it appropriate to pop this up so we can reflect on it in years to come as the Queensland toads now set themselves up to forge ahead while we go up and down in the same old pile of .......

:: FEATURE STORY ::Racing Queensland moves into the future01 Jul 2010Racing Queensland LtdJuly 1, 2010 an historic and important day for the racing industry in Queensland.

On this day the three racing codes of thoroughbreds, harness and greyhounds became one control body organisation, Racing Queensland Limited (RQL).

RQL chairman Mr Bob Bentley said this coming together of an amalgamated control body to administer all codes of racing in the state will have far reaching positive consequences for all stakeholders.

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So you agree with dictatorship??

Why not, how the hell do you think the Military & Parliament works??

Picture this, General Norman Schwarzkopf in operation Desert Storm. He wants to plan a surprise attack, does he ask for the input of his men in the trenches?? don't be stupid.

John Key wants to increase the age for the benefit to 65, does he ask Russell Norman? don't be stupid.

The biggest problem in racing is that we take far too much notice of idiots and imbeciles, they have a right not to know what is going on, what will in fact be best for the majority and usually them, and the sooner the nutters from the outer fringes are shutup and kicked into touch the better we will all be.

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Why not, how the hell do you think the Military & Parliament works??

Picture this, General Norman Schwarzkopf in operation Desert Storm. He wants to plan a surprise attack, does he ask for the input of his men in the trenches?? don't be stupid.

John Key wants to increase the age for the benefit to 65, does he ask Russell Norman? don't be stupid.

The biggest problem in racing is that we take far too much notice of idiots and imbeciles, they have a right not to know what is going on, what will in fact be best for the majority and usually them, and the sooner the nutters from the outer fringes are shutup and kicked into touch the better we will all be.

'John Key wants to increase the age for the benefit to 65"......Well bugger me, when did he decrease it from 65?

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Legislation to establish an amalgamated control body for the three racing codes was introduced into state parliament this week .The new control body is called Racing Queensland Ltd.

Second Reading

Hon. PJ LAWLOR (Southport

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How much did you follow the build up to this? Did you watch the debate in parliment??..I did. How much consultation was done with the clubs?. QRL have wanted to sell Gold Coast for awhile, now after this crap was passed they can, no questions if they own the majority of the club which this bill gives them the power to do. Do some more homework, its a farce and Bentley looking after himself. I can copy more reports if you want.

Media statement from Brisbane Racing Club:

MEDIA STATEMENT

Lawlor blinkered on Racing Control Body powers

Minister for Tourism and Fair Trading, Peter Lawlor has been completely blinkered in granting racing

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THE release of a Strategic Plan for NSW racing could not have come at a worse time for the Bligh Government and Racing Minister Peter Lawlor.

Not to mention the Government's control body Queensland Racing Limited, which effectively is the fiefdom of the chairman Bob Bentley.

The Racing NSW draft, released last week, highlighted the financial hurdle the racing industry in general faces if corporate bookmakers were not forced to pay a fair share back to the industry.

At least Racing NSW is overwhelmingly sympathetic to the plight of owners.

The threat of corporate bookies is bad enough but here in Queensland we have the added threat of powers in place desperate to wrest absolute ownership of the industry.

While this action is being played out every owner is being "robbed". They are not getting an equitable return from stakes and yet their overheads are ballooning because QRL is hoarding industry money.

Brisbane Racing Club chairman Kevin Dixon yesterday was blunt in his comments on the landscape as it stands under the Bligh Government.

"Changes to the Queensland funding arrangements with race clubs over the past six years have created a financial crisis for most racing venues in this state," Dixon said.

"The venues have been left to fund the cost side of racing but the Government has directed that revenue be withheld from them.

"The outcome is predictable. Any business, no matter how well run, saddled with the costs but denied the revenue will struggle."

The most expensive part of the racing industry is the cost of providing racing surfaces and raceday services on top of the provision of training facilities.

The training fees paid by trainers (indirectly owners) with the small subsidies provided by QRL and the State Government only funds a small share of the outgoings.

"The clubs which operate the venues are left to fund the rest of the money out of members' fees, admissions, catering profits and fees from broadcasters. It can't be done," Dixon said.

Dixon said at the BRC the total cost of providing these facilities was currently $7.9 million a year. The contribution from all sources was $2 million.

"Wagering revenue should be aplied to thse costs but the State Government and QRL take commissions from turnover," Dixon said.

QRL alone has been able to stash away a cash kitty of $50 million in recent years even after outlaying $30 million on projects driven by itself including two cushion track surfaces which have offered diminished betting returns.

Dixon has been strongly supported by two of the other major TAB clubs in the state.

The Gold Coast Turf Club and the Townsville Turf Club echoed the same sentiments.

"The situation is extreme. Last week we had to double our training fees and we will still show a huge loss in that area," GCTC chairman Andrew Eggleston said.

Long standing Townsville Turf Club official Kevin O'Keefe said regional clubs were in a worse situation than some of the bigger south-east Queensland race clubs.

"Our costs are similar but we have less opportunity to raise additional funds like crowds and sponsorships," O'Keefe said.

The racing industry is at flashpoint.

So far, the fear of retribution has driven the resentment underground.

Surely now is the time for owners who are getting thoroughly screwed by the current Queensland racing model, and their agents the trainers, to stand up and challenge the Bligh Government and the QRL for a fair go.

CM story Bart Sinclair

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There was a meeting that Bentley was invited to before all this went to parliment. Why did he not attend?. Interesting his excuse was he had to go to Canberra(family thing he said, hmm what else is in Canberra? Parliment.) Why was he not seen at a race meet after all this was passed?. Do you want NZ run the same way as Queensland has been?( do as i say not as do). I would have thought you of all people could see through all this political crap zzz/kev. To rule is fair but why dictate??. The Gold Coast get no money unless they hand over there rights to the land they own, the all weather tracks hold stuff all from the T.A.B when they race and Bob wants more all weather tracks. Bob wants to be the only voice coming out of Queensland..it's his way or the highway it seem's. Bring on a change of government and lets see what he has to say. He has created the stand off between GCTC and the owners/trainers there. You want this in NZ??. No you do not.

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Rumbird, a benevolent dictator is better than any MMP!!!

Aussie/Nz(MMP/LNP) ...2 different countries. If the leader of NZ racing was in bed with the government to the point he could push thru what he wants how would you feel??. They do not care what anyone else has to say its there way or no way. Lets give Brown all the power he want's and make it so nobody can question him....what say you barry? as that is what Bentley has. Sell whatever he wants, stakes to whatever club he decide's and stuff the backbone counrty racing...yep now thats a leader i want..you too??

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zzz/Kevin/Barry...I am pure blood kiwi but owing to the lack of money being able to make in NZ I have moved overseas. I have spent 5 years working in Queensland and 1 year of that working in bush Queensland. What has been passed in parliment will not help country racing which is the backbone and blood of metro meeting's in not only Queensland but also NSW and VIC. This bill means one person(bob has more power than you read) the right to starve clubs of much needed funding if his new RQL does not own the majority of the land they race on. He was after 3 tracks and all of a sudden he orders the auditors to take a look at them...hmm. Why did he not get them to look at Ipswich??, The club he was ex president of but not on the radar of RQL/Him owning. Why did he not call a meeting of trainers,owners and stakeholders to invite opinions on his ideas of the way ahead??. He avoided everything...why??. Do not put me on the moderated list as i am playing the ball not the man(although that wouldnt be hard when Bentley comes up). I have followed this for a long time as it does involve me. One Racing yeah ok but surely others are allowed some input. Ok thats me for the night...thanks for being allowed my input.

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Why not, how the hell do you think the Military & Parliament works??

Picture this, General Norman Schwarzkopf in operation Desert Storm. He wants to plan a surprise attack, does he ask for the input of his men in the trenches?? don't be stupid.

John Key wants to increase the age for the benefit to 65, does he ask Russell Norman? don't be stupid.

The biggest problem in racing is that we take far too much notice of idiots and imbeciles, they have a right not to know what is going on, what will in fact be best for the majority and usually them, and the sooner the nutters from the outer fringes are shutup and kicked into touch the better we will all be.

zzz thats why you cannot get your one race idea past go, NZ wont stand for that type of dictatorship plain and simple.

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Plenty to fear in racing's future

Bart Sinclair From: The Sunday Mail (Qld) April 18, 2010

BE afraid Queenslanders. Be very afraid.

The Bligh Government has sent a terrible message to everyone in the state with the ridiculous provisions in the revised Racing And Betting Act to establish a new three-code control body.

Consultation, democracy and accountability are obviously words with which Racing Minister Peter Lawlor is not familiar.

The industry will have no future representation on the new private company set up to be the control body. Not a single person.

The only shareholders of this private company will be seven people who happen to be the same seven currently in power. That's the five members of the Queensland Racing Limited board plus the chairs of the greyhound and harness boards.

Obviously Lawlor considers a democratic vote would be a tiresome exercise.

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The shareholders are appointed for an initial period of four years, with two required to step down and stand for re-appointment every two years after that.

If you do the sums, two members get four years, two get six years, two get eight years and one gets 10 years.

Mind you the members would hardly be quaking in their boots at the prospect of seeking re-appointment.

A panel of three will choose who goes back on. Chairman Bob Bentley will be one of the selectors, along with a representative of the Department of Racing and, incredibly, a person to be chosen by the first two. The only criteria the third selector has to meet is to be a current member of the Institute of Company Directors. There's one on every street corner.

If misfortune or just tiredness overcomes a shareholder and he or she does not seek re-appointment, the trio of selectors will step up to the plate.

The State Government says its only involvement in racing now is in matters of probity and integrity. Really?

Lawlor claims there was consultation. The Minister says he consulted the three current control body chairs - all now shareholders of the company - and the three chief executives who work for those chairs.

In a previous life Lawlor was a long-serving member of the Gold Coast Turf Club board.

In his time of direct involvement in the racing industry he must have formed a firm view of the industry participants.

The proposals under this Racing And Betting Act give the private company real ability to assume ownership of racetracks or at least an avenue to take over assets and intellectual property of race clubs. What next? Rural properties, homes, commercial land?

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And what would you know about Onerace?,

you hardly qualify for the human race.

The only reason we call it a human race is so we can exclude you Weo you being of the subhuman variety, shorter in all areas of importance.

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The only reason we call it a human race is so we can exclude you Weo you being of the subhuman variety, shorter in all areas of importance.

Not all area's Geoff,ask Queen Bee

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The only reason we call it a human race is so we can exclude you Weo you being of the subhuman variety, shorter in all areas of importance.

By your own admission you are a minor, it's not compulsory to write like one.

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When are you down here again, still keen to introduce you to that place 6' below.:tongue:

When I've got a horse bad enough to run on a saucer of grass, mown by your girlfriends, following a running rail as bent as a miner's back, at a speed slower than the Franz Joseph glacier....and before you say it Morty trained that...if I'd trained it we'd have been somewhere a little more stylish, where the locals have eyelids, four grandparents not two, and where it costs more to fill your gas tank than your sister.

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Why not, how the hell do you think the Military & Parliament works??

Picture this, General Norman Schwarzkopf in operation Desert Storm. He wants to plan a surprise attack, does he ask for the input of his men in the trenches?? don't be stupid.

John Key wants to increase the age for the benefit to 65, does he ask Russell Norman? don't be stupid.

The biggest problem in racing is that we take far too much notice of idiots and imbeciles, they have a right not to know what is going on, what will in fact be best for the majority and usually them, and the sooner the nutters from the outer fringes are shutup and kicked into touch the better we will all be.

Midget, the crucial difference is that General Schwarzkkopf NEVER ordered his foot-soldiers, his GI's, to hand over 20%, or 25%, or 30% of their incomes to General S for the direct financial benefit of him and his mates.

Our Thoroughbred Racing Board does exactly that!

And more and more foot-soldier clubs and owners are thoroughly sick of being cheated and swindled of some $4 millions a year in this dishonest way.

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