Trump 2,741 Report post Posted October 26, 2014 Rising Romance/Lucia Valentina close 2nd and 3rd in CC and Silent Achiever beaten a whisker and was 2nd in one more stride in CP. NZ bred in better condition for stayers than Oz. But training methods? The Japanese really know their stuff re Trsining a Stayers. It's a pity that Deep whatshisname returned a positive for his Arc effort. I was there that year and Paris was full of Japanese supporters! Rail Link spoiled their party - as did the drug testers ! But they are Master Trainers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted October 26, 2014 These japs have been running flat out for years,they run 2.26 2400s for fun. Admire rakti wins the melbourne cup as sure as the handicapper was duped by his owner. Take the $4 and run Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusserena 19 Report post Posted October 26, 2014 Trump asked "How much better are the UK/European/Japan TRAINERS"? The answer is in the results - the recent running of the Major staying races in Australia! The Australian trainers have their share of European Bred stayers in their stables nowadays BUT still the raiders DO come and win these races! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camici 60 Report post Posted October 26, 2014 Spot on Michael.Most of the stallions we are importing these days have never won beyond 1600 m.Hard to see any of them siring good middle distance horses let alone 3200 m. winners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBHunter 100 Report post Posted October 27, 2014 Rising Romance/Lucia Valentina close 2nd and 3rd in CC and Silent Achiever beaten a whisker and was 2nd in one more stride in CP. NZ bred in better condition for stayers than Oz. But training methods? The Japanese really know their stuff re Trsining a Stayers. It's a pity that Deep whatshisname returned a positive for his Arc effort. I was there that year and Paris was full of Japanese supporters! Rail Link spoiled their party - as did the drug testers ! But they are Master Trainers! Ive watched the replays of That race and Deep Impact appeared to me to be below his best and struggling. The drug they used was one that opens airways. I wondered if the horse was given the drug because he was already off? If you watch a few of his races you see a horse that should be a legend to rival any of histories greats Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted October 27, 2014 True TBH. I can recall Paris being chockers with Japanese supporters. They thought he was a certainty - he was so good. I heard he's doing good things in the breeding barn? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...