Breeder 608 Report post Posted June 27, 2014 We'll have to set up a second list in January, Berri. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted June 30, 2014 I read Swynford's original post and would have to agree with him, that picking yearlings involves a whole raft of things, including, if you wish, your own 'pet' theories about pedigrees/breeding. I don't think even the most ardent pedigree buffs would suggest buying yearlings sight unseen, based purely on their pedigree. Anyway, I just thought it was meant as a bit of fun, an interest in this quiet section of the Café - so thought I'd put up my selections for scrutiny. If they don't comply with your original intent Berri, please just ignore.. Cheers! Abide and Swynford 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted June 30, 2014 Lloyd...not at all. I am going to put this lot into a customised website. It will be fun. I just thought it would be interesting to submit a group of horses based on pedigree alone because it would have been interesting to see whether the pedigree buffs could out perform the horse type selectors. It seemed from Swynford's original posts that he was a pedigree man....hence my challenge based on pedigree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest 78 Report post Posted June 30, 2014 So if someone picks a horse for say 20k,and it wins several races as opposed to a pick of say a million dollars and it wins a minor listed race,how will you assess it? I would have thought return on investment would be a major factor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell M 1 Report post Posted June 30, 2014 great idea dreams are free...... and we are all experts..... I'll love to have any of these 3 Broodmares. Lot 325 Thorn Park - Valpolicella J Chalmers $260k Lot 356 Rip van Winkle- Akela Mulcaster $240k Lot 460 Zabeel - Eloa D Hawthorne $270k Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted June 30, 2014 I've actually been thinking about that....how to create the elements that rate success? It should be a combination of things in the form of an algorithm. One element would have to be Return On Investment (ROI) which would be the cost of the horse plus a set formula in respect of training fees over the time. One might be the sale that the horse was bought from with Premier having the least amount points with festival the most. I'm just thinking out aloud but another could be some sort of points scoring in respect of wins/ placings/ stakes wins and placings (subsets being group one performances having more points than listed). What I'd really like to do is make this worth serious bucks. Just haven't engaged my alternative brain quite yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted July 2, 2014 How any storm creeks have run in a Melbourne cup? Any horse from the festival sale? Will Thunderbird one be the first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins 2,120 Report post Posted July 3, 2014 How any storm creeks have run in a Melbourne cup? Any horse from the festival sale? Will Thunderbird one be the first? Gruff, mine won a Singapore Derby. He was sold as a yearling at the August Sale ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted July 3, 2014 Had to be you peter:) question is can the bird go further? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummels 7 Report post Posted July 4, 2014 Mine if I may Lot 560 Rip Van Winkle ex Keeper Special Lot 569 O'reilly ex kiwi Park Lot 507 Savabeel ex Haberdashery Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted July 5, 2014 Mine if I may Lot 560 Rip Van Winkle ex Keeper Special Lot 569 O'reilly ex kiwi Park Lot 507 Savabeel ex Haberdashery Hummels Can you please look below at the information I would like to add you to the exercise. I don't have the time to look into it as I've also been emailed with selections and its just too much work for you not to do it yourself lot Number Sale Amount sold for/passed Who bought Sire Dam Sex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummels 7 Report post Posted July 5, 2014 All from Select 560 Rip Van Winkle ex Keeper Special buyer sf ritchie 41k Lot 569 O'reilly ex kiwi Park buyer lr noble 22.5k Lot 507 Savabeel ex Haberdashery buyer murray baker racing 42k All fillies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest 78 Report post Posted July 6, 2014 Although I like the idea of this competition,I hope everyone realises this could be the longest running comp in the history of any comp ever anywhere. Before you even think of the next karaka sales picks,this set of selections probably wont have an outcome till the year 2025,unless there turns out to be a MUSTARD or two in amongst them then correct weight may not signalled till say 2030. MPERKINS and hummels 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted September 3, 2014 Well, my Showcasing / Shades of Silk 2yrold won a trial recently. Breeder 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeder 608 Report post Posted September 3, 2014 Good start trakdap ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 How is this going? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby 160 Report post Posted December 6, 2014 Don't think any of mine have trialled yet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted December 6, 2014 My Festival choice is Showboy, winner today at Trentham. my Premier choice is Ruud Not Too a trial placegetter and my Select choice with Shaun Ritchie not trialled yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted December 6, 2014 Choosing a horse on pedigree alone is nothing short of ridiculous IMHO. If it was that easy we would all chose the same. In reference to a previous post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeder 608 Report post Posted December 16, 2014 One my selections ( Thorn Park colt named Mission Accompli ) won a trial today at Te Aroha. Have to add --Graham and Debbie Rogerson are having an amazing run with their 2 yr olds this season. Another lot of winners today at the trials. One Fastnet Rock colt by 7 lengths over 650mts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted December 17, 2014 Well done breeder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted December 18, 2014 Fastnet rock-katie lee ...650 in 36.3 ..the acorn fell close to that tree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted December 18, 2014 Yes Gruff, Good Trial Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted January 14, 2015 I see my Rip/Clown Princess filly in Shaun Ritchies team trialled at Cambridge Tues. Unplaced. It is nice to see my 3 selections actually getting to the racing stage . Is Berri keeping a track of all this as he started it all ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawberry-bull 10 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 My lot 458 racing tomorrow at Waikato Zabeel Ekstreme ,fingers crossed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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