mcmissile 409 Report post Posted June 16, 2014 I think the time has come that we have some clear rules about how long a dog gets stood down for. Reading the stipes report from Manawatu today Cawbourne Tip has received a 3 day stand-down after needing stiches in a cut toe, 3 days!! This is essentially so it can race again on Friday if so desired by the trainer. One of my dogs got 10 days a few weeks ago for a tiny split in a pad, which I thought was a bit excessive but had no problem with it as I wasn't intending on racing him until it was totally healed anyway. I often see very small stand-down periods for dogs so they can basically be scratched without a penalty so they can race again whenever they like, and it seems it all depends on who you are. How can a dog that has needed stitches only get a 3 day stand-down? The vet should know better and makes you wonder what he is actually doing at the track, obviously not looking after the welfare of the dogs if he thinks it's ok to race a dog with stitches in a toe 3 days after receiving them. There needs to be rules that have to be followed by all trainers no matter how many dogs you have, and stand-down periods that are consistent throughout the country. Whether or not you want to race a few days later shouldn't come into it. I thought the vets on track had a sheet with minimum stand-down periods for specific injuries, do they not use these any more? GONSTA, dogrug, aquaman and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted June 16, 2014 How long does Morphine stay in the dogs system, 3 days maybe about right That's a big call!!!! and unfounded Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
better be good 17 Report post Posted June 16, 2014 Luke and other's. Why must people look for trouble when there isn't any? He or She is/was the vet in charge if they give the dog 3,5,7,10,42 days who are you or me to judge? luke you are reading a stipe's report,Did you see the dog? Stitches or staples on a small cut can heal in a couple of days, so I see no problem, I'm sure if the dogs not right by then it wouldn't start. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybooy 52 Report post Posted June 16, 2014 That's a big call!!!! and unfounded http://jca.org.nz/non-race-day-hearings/non-race-day-inquiry-riu-v-m-g-c-roberts-decision-dated-15-november-2012 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,693 Report post Posted June 16, 2014 How long does Morphine stay in the dogs system, 3 days maybe about right prove it or retract it... or go elsewhere... you know the rules. modest mouse 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmissile 409 Report post Posted June 16, 2014 My main point is I thought the minimum stand down period was 5 days, I've never come across a 3 day before just so you can race a few days later, might have well of just given none. I just think there needs to be a bit more consistency, seems in the C.D that anything goes. happy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted June 16, 2014 They give three day stand doens in the cd all the time, especially for certain trainers happy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howrude 108 Report post Posted June 17, 2014 3 days seem a little too little don't you think? And especially for stitches. Maybe the dogs welfare is second best. I have had stitches come undone after a week so 3 days does seem to be bending the rules...Charlie isn't the best at stitching either, so 3 months to heal after a Boyce job seems appropriate haha. Experience rather than opinion. happy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Shady 479 Report post Posted June 17, 2014 It's funny how you can sit back and see pattern's emerge in regards to stand down's and how the periods have changed. You see trainer's scratch dog's when they have the reserves and wonder if it was only because they wanted there reserve to get a start, then you would read the stipe report and every single time it would say scratched due to diarhoea, 3 days stand down. The stipes (or power's that be) must of got wise to this and it's now mandatory 10 days stand down, funny how cases of diarhoea have eased considerably! There's a new "injury" that's getting used now because the stand down will be only 3 days minimum not 10! alltheway!!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoKnows 791 Report post Posted June 20, 2014 I just saw results and see it got 6th as a $2 favourite the worst race it has gone for a long time , punters burnt big time on a dog that probably should not have been in in hindsite gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi 782 Report post Posted June 20, 2014 From the stipes report~ http://www.thedogs.co.nz/catch-the-action/11273/stewards-report.aspx "CAWBOURNE TIP which had been stood down for 3 days at Manawatu on 16.06.14 with suturing to a toe wound, was thoroughly examined and cleared fit to start in this event." To me it's interesting that the other seven entrants either didn't get this "thouroughly" exam prior to racing, or the stipe didn't see it fit to let everyone know the other seven dogs had the same equal exam. Jabba2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmissile 409 Report post Posted June 20, 2014 I don't think there way any way the dog would of been scratched even if they had doubt, Whiterod and the vet were not going to admit they made a mistake, and unfortunately the punter and the dog suffered. feral and dogrug 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henery 35 Report post Posted July 7, 2014 I see there is a dog in a distance race Thursday then is racing 520m Friday wonda if it got 4 days from palmy today so it can make feild up and race on Friday could be interesting to watch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmyb 277 Report post Posted July 7, 2014 May have forgotten to withdraw from Friday as I think the one in question is a nice 600m dog and was suppose to be there but don't know any facts. Time will tell I guess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 What about that lochinvar maui today, scratched monday and races thursday Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...