mcmissile 409 Report post Posted May 24, 2014 http://greyhoundsnz.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/a-long-avaited-blog-post-please-share.html Jabba2 and Yankiwi 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietnloud 10 Report post Posted May 24, 2014 People are already judging the race side so now there's after racing to judge don't know how people are getting away with things but they are so whose going to step up to the plate and change it my guess nobody its just talked about happy, mcmissile and dustydreamnz 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernlea25 110 Report post Posted May 24, 2014 I adopted a retired racer through GAP about August last year. Everyone from GAP that I dealt with during the adoption process was very pleasant, but I felt the process was disjointed and communication a bit slack and I remember thinking / saying to people on numerous occasions "Gee they must miss out on so many potential new homes for these greyhounds because people get sick of chasing them up". At every step of the process I felt like it was me that had to keep things moving forward - it was me making follow-up calls, sending follow-up emails etc just to get action or find out where things were at. The person I was dealing with seemed to keep changing, too. I appreciate that a number of the people involved are volunteers, but surely clarity over the process and effective communication is a must if GAP is going to reach its full potential. I wasn't invited to complete any kind of survey or offer any feedback on my experience throughout the process, so I never gave any - I think this is a must. Then again, maybe they are usually much better and I was just one that wasn't handled so well. It's a shame I wasn't rapt with the process because the product (the greyhound) is the real deal. Appreciate I've gone away from the topic in the blog somewhat but think this is still relevant to the effectiveness of GAP. dustydreamnz and happy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley 1,900 Report post Posted May 24, 2014 ..no you haven't 'gone away' from the topic., what you've described is what the experience will be when GAP's been run from the top like it's been., a private little fifedom for two shonks., ..all those process 'stutterings' you've explained..are the 'holes' that appear when the fabric is rotten at the top., i.e., you get disjointedism..instead of flow and efficiency down in the 'rung' of the organisation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modest mouse 469 Report post Posted May 24, 2014 Mr. Administrator, can you please remove above link. I think it's inappropriate to let someone go of the deep end like that. There are better ways of handling this problem. Thank you. Hall 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfire 7 Report post Posted May 24, 2014 I would like to ask everyone to take this comment in context. It was from a personal blog site, so is therefore a personal opinion from the writer which comes from a person who was asked to leave GAP, so I feel there is a lot of personal vendetta perhaps in these comments. Please let us put out efforts into finding homes for these retired greyhounds and stop attacking everyone who is trying to achieve this. Is it too hard for everyone to work together to achieve this? No system is perfect, but with a bit of effort I am sure we can go a long way to achieving it. Hall 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmissile 409 Report post Posted May 24, 2014 Mr. Administrator, can you please remove above link. I think it's inappropriate to let someone go of the deep end like that. There are better ways of handling this problem. Thank you.[ What better ways are there that you can suggest, sitting back and doing nothing has achieved nothing so far, in fact things are getting worse. Yes it was from a personal blog site, but there is also a lot of truth in what was written. Ask most trainers who have dogs on the GAP list and ask them what they think of the current administration and what they think of the long, long waiting lists, unfortunately some dogs haven't been able to wait that long. We have seen great people give up on the GAP programme simply because of the way they have been treated by the people running it, and the association who could do something about it have yet to see a problem? The fact the person running GAP can't stand greyhound trainers and has no time for the industry says something about the motivation to do best by us all doesn't it? Jabba2, happy, dustydreamnz and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted May 24, 2014 I would like to ask everyone to take this comment in context. It was from a personal blog site, so is therefore a personal opinion from the writer which comes from a person who was asked to leave GAP, so I feel there is a lot of personal vendetta perhaps in these comments. Please let us put out efforts into finding homes for these retired greyhounds and stop attacking everyone who is trying to achieve this. Is it too hard for everyone to work together to achieve this? No system is perfect, but with a bit of effort I am sure we can go a long way to achieving it.. I'm with the personal blogger,that you Mr Marshall? GONSTA 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,560 Report post Posted May 24, 2014 Mr. Administrator, can you please remove above link. I think it's inappropriate to let someone go of the deep end like that. There are better ways of handling this problem. Thank you. The above link is on an internet (public domain) website linking to another of the same description. What is the point of deleting it? The story is still out there............ jasonmccook1 and dustydreamnz 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustydreamnz 493 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 The above link is on an internet (public domain) website linking to another of the same description. What is the point of deleting it? The story is still out there............ Exactly. It's up for discussion like anything on this site. You don't have to agree with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall 147 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 ..no you haven't 'gone away' from the topic., what you've described is what the experience will be when GAP's been run from the top like it's been., a private little fifedom for two shonks., ..all those process 'stutterings' you've explained..are the 'holes' that appear when the fabric is rotten at the top., i.e., you get disjointedism..instead of flow and efficiency down in the 'rung' of the organisation. And how many Greys have you adopted you always have a lot to say, so please tell me. I am a trainer and I have put a lot of greys thru GAP and never had a problem. softlysoftly and modest mouse 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall 147 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 Exactly. It's up for discussion like anything on this site. You don't have to agree with it. Sorry so you know Fatima personally and you think that she is a lovely person. I have had personal contact with this this person and she was not nice she has her own agenda and vendetta and this is her blog on her web site so leave it there, I personally think that Jacqui has a case for slander, and where did she get these invoices from she better or her friends watch out. kiwiozpom 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustydreamnz 493 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 No, I haven't met any of them. I don't want anyone bad involved, who would? I never said whether anyone was good or bad but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 Sorry so you know Fatima personally I have had personal contact with this person and she was not nice .. In what way? Is she stupid as well? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall 147 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 . In what way? Is she stupid as well? Hahahaha I dont know is she, you are the one with the question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall 147 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 No, I haven't met any of them. I don't want anyone bad involved, who would? I never said whether anyone was good or bad but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Yes you are right so you are going to believe this crap. I just think that this should not been put on this site to many people here with there own agenda and love to bring down some thing that is good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 Jacqui is doing an awful job at gap, end of story. How much trainers dont have a problem with gap? mcmissile and happy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmissile 409 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 I don't think personalities come into it when it comes to the running of an organisation like GAP as long as the job is being done to the best of their abilities. I couldn't care who runs GAP, Jacqui or not, as long as our dogs are being rehomed at an acceptable rate, and this is not happening. Hall, why are all the Gap kennels closing down do you think? ask them and they will all say the same thing, the person running GAP and her people and management skills. Maybe we need someone with the passion that Fatima has got for our industry, not someone who freely admits she hates greyhound trainers. dustydreamnz, hedley, Yankiwi and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy 62 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 and didn't you have a problem with gap a while ago with people using other peoples places to get their dogs in?? you complained so dogs with trainers that could be bothered to wait put their dogs down instead!! that's why they changed the rules about how your dogs get in, so now theres loads more dead dogs!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 The fact is, Gap cant cope with the amount of dogs that need rehoming each year. It is a complete shambles. Something needs to happen for this to change Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barker 31 Report post Posted May 25, 2014 The fact is, Gap cant cope with the amount of dogs that need rehoming each year. So people overloading GAP and GAPs not dealing with it? Sounds like a two part problem. Mismanagement and unrealistic expectations from the industry. So much for new animal welfare changes then.. alltheway!!! and Fernlea25 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modest mouse 469 Report post Posted May 26, 2014 So people overloading GAP and GAPs not dealing with it? Sounds like a two part problem. Mismanagement and unrealistic expectations from the industry. So much for new animal welfare changes then.. Very well said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmissile 409 Report post Posted May 26, 2014 Not very well said at all actually. As things stand at the moment, yes there are a lot of dogs waiting to get into the GAP programme and will be waiting for quite some time, the fact we keep losing kennels due to the management of GAP is the major factor in this, can't you understand this? If you go the the SPCA and other animal shelters of the like and saw how many cats and dogs get put down every day you would be quite appalled, unfortunately and sadly it is a fact that there are always going to be too many animals and not enough homes. But when greyhound trainers and owners desperately want to find homes for their ex-racers and a programme is in place to do this i.e GAP, but the motivation of the management just isn't there, therein lies the frustration of many. dogrug, hedley, aquaman and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barker 31 Report post Posted May 26, 2014 Not very well said at all actually. As things stand at the moment, yes there are a lot of dogs waiting to get into the GAP programme and will be waiting for quite some time, the fact we keep losing kennels due to the management of GAP is the major factor in this, can't you understand this? If you go the the SPCA and other animal shelters of the like and saw how many cats and dogs get put down every day you would be quite appalled, unfortunately and sadly it is a fact that there are always going to be too many animals and not enough homes. But when greyhound trainers and owners desperately want to find homes for their ex-racers and a programme is in place to do this i.e GAP, but the motivation of the management just isn't there, therein lies the frustration of many. I'll stick by my theory, Mismanagement = loss of kennels arrangements and unrealistic expectations as demonstrated in your post. Or will a couple of kennelling arrangements absorb all the dogs on the waiting list? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy 69 Report post Posted May 26, 2014 As long as the trip to Melbourne provided some ideas like this... http://www.grv.org.au/newsarticles.aspx?NewsArticleID=4778 pilli, hedley, lad27 and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
