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Does anyone know if SKYTV has any involvement with Watch and Bet Tv.

 

It is imperative that the don't. However I doubt that the current NZRB board has much experience in television provision and could easily be  influenced thus disadvantaging racing.

 

As Meomy has pointed out in another thread SKYTV must be getting worried with the competition from internet TV.

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Does anyone know if SKYTV has any involvement with Watch and Bet Tv.

 

It is imperative that the don't. However I doubt that the current NZRB board has much experience in television provision and could easily be  influenced thus disadvantaging racing.

 

As Meomy has pointed out in another thread SKYTV must be getting worried with the competition from internet TV.

 

Why would Sky be getting worried?

 

Sky offer a great deal for little.

 

Anyone watching the games are getting fantastic viewing.....what have they got...4 or 5 channels on the games , mostly live???

Toss in all of the other sport they show live....and I think most would see Sky being good value.....

 

Don't forget the 2 trackside channels as well......Life is good for any racing/ sports fan..

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Why would Sky be getting worried?

 

Sky offer a great deal for little.

 

Anyone watching the games are getting fantastic viewing.....what have they got...4 or 5 channels on the games , mostly live???

Toss in all of the other sport they show live....and I think most would see Sky being good value.....

 

Don't forget the 2 trackside channels as well......Life is good for any racing/ sports fan..

 

I thought you would have passed away (blue faced) on this thread months back Porty...

You have defended the sale, and tried to sell sky (are you on comission?,a sky salesman?)

Too much dosh for me porty...what with watch and bet,

and other free sporting websites available on the internet.

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Yeah but we now have fantastic looking offices and studios in the highest rental parts of Auckland. Really makes a difference!

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Excerpt from Racing: Trackside gives punters a choice

By Michael Guerin

5:00 AM Wednesday Jul 30, 2014
 
 
Racing channels will diversify so coverage of all three codes will improve
 

Trackside broadcasting executive Glen Broomhall says the changes are not just exciting for those inside the business but will have a very obvious benefit for viewers and punters.

 

"We will be putting a lot more control in the viewer's hands," says Broomhall.

 

"By having far less duplication on the two channels we will be showing as many races live as possible and letting people know which channel to be on to watch the race they want to see. It is a very exciting time for all of us involved."

 

Another bonus of the move will be a separate audio channel for TABs and racetracks so the commentary on as many races as possible goes into these outlets.

 

The Stanley St base will begin sharing broadcasting work with Avalon from September 1 and will take over the entire operation from October 1.

 

 

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According to this article in the Herald last week there have only been "Elsewhere the total number of subscribers was up slightly at 9157".

 

So Mr Glenn Patrick & others,

 

"How many people that have previously watched Free-to-AirTrackside racing on  Freeview  TV have taken up the offer to have Sky?"

 

It appears on the surface as if its not very many, taking into account those that would have joined Sky for movies, Glasgow Games & World Cup Soccer.

 

Equally importantly, how many of these people no longer have a bet or have an active interest in Racing in New Zealand?

 

 

 

The most recent Sky Report to June 2014 is available to read in this link.

 

Sky's move into internet TV not defensive, says Fellet, after $165.6m profit

5:00 AM Saturday Aug 23, 2014
 

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Sky Television faces challenges to its dominance of pay television, but chief executive John Fellet says it is moving into internet TV as a positive step, not a defensive one.

As Telecom prepares to launch its new subscription video on demand (SVOD) service Lightbox next week, Sky has recorded a strong profit that includes its own SVOD service, waiting in the wings.

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• Mediaworks joins Sky, TVNZ in banning Slingshot ads
• Telecom's Lightbox no sweat for Sky TV
• Sky TV profits surge 21pc to $165m

Lightbox joins Quikflix and Netflix is tipped to come here as well.

 

But Sky insists it is not being driven by fears about competition snapping at its heels. Fellet does not see SVOD as the new mainstream for pay TV and points to the resilience of standard linear pay TV in the United States market.

 

In San Jose, the centre of Silicon Valley where there were all manner of new media pay technologies, 95 per cent of viewing was still through traditional pay TV, he said.

 

But there is a change underway.

 

In the latest financial results for Sky, published yesterday, Fellet paints a picture of Sky as a battleship repositioning itself for a new era in pay television.

 

The internet plays a bigger role and it is where Sky has to spread its technology and rights base.

 

Fellet says competition for subscription video on demand is in a small part of the pay TV market. Sky's own SVOD, aimed at a wider market than just existing subscribers, will be running by the end of the year.

 

But there is clearly a danger that a cheaper SVOD service could cannibalise the main Sky service.

 

Fellet told analysts Sky was not going into the new platform defensively.

 

The company posted a better than expected 21 per cent gain in annual profit as it boosted revenue from more subscribers.

The company achieved net profit of $165.6 million, about $5.3 million more than analyst expectations in a Reuters poll.

It compared with a $137.2 million profit a year earlier. Revenue increased 2.7 per cent to $909 million as sales from subscription fees rose 2.7 per cent to $809 million.

 

Fellet described the result as "mixed" in a period where capital expenditure was down and without losses like there were in 2013 over its coverage of the Olympics, which did not draw as much advertising revenue as expected. Operating profits were up $25.89 million or 7.3 per cent to $379 million. Programming costs were down 3.2 per cent to $280 million, but that was partly due to the way charges had fallen, rather than any pricing cuts. Fellet acknowledged that competition for general programming content would increase costs.

 

Fellet says the number of rights for digital content is increasing and that will cost more, but that was useful because it allowed Sky to amortise costs, for instance using shows on a premium service such as SoHo, the free-to-air service Prime, then on SVOD.

 

Elsewhere the total number of subscribers was up slightly at 9157.

 

That is far from the rapid rises of the past - but was a sign there was still some movement in the prospects for subscriber growth and showed growth did not have to rely on extending purchases of premium products by existing users.

The most dramatic evidence of Sky preparations for a new era is a $100 million capital programme over three years to replace standard Sky decoders to make them capable of being linked to the internet. Many of the non-standard set top boxes are eight years old, some 15 years.

The change will make it easier for existing Sky TV customers to access SVOD.

The personal video recorder MySky will also be upgraded to allow internet connectivity and access to services. MySky boxes have increased from 456,004 to 504,700 so 55 per cent of Sky subscribers now have MySky.

 

Read Sky's latest financial presentation here:


 

 

 

 

 

 

Remember Des Coppins has a session this Sunday about this issue.

 

Well said by  Arthur Bott in the following article.

 

Arthur Bott, of Hastings, wrote a letter to the editor condemning the TAB for its history of providing a "very poor service" to all the small pubs and club outlets serving the betting public.

"Often the profits do not cover the cost of staff and administration time it takes.

"In my opinion, the TAB has shot itself in both feet with this ridiculous change of policy. Will all the telephone account punters be happy to place their bets if they can't see the races on Freeview in their homes? I can't believe they will," Bott wrote.

 

 

 

Media from January 14

 

Cost-cutting scratches Trackside on Freeview

By Steve Deane

5:30 AM Tuesday Jan 14, 2014

 

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11185824

 

Media from February 4

 

Racing: Scratching Freeview justified says NZRB

By Anendra Singh

5:00 AM Tuesday Feb 4, 2014  comments
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The response from a "majority" of Trackside customers has prompted the New Zealand Racing Board to broadcast with Sky TV from April.

"We've had a lot of feedback from customers [from a survey] who feel that Trackside often crosses to another meeting without enough detailed lead-in or post-race analysis and that Trackside and TAB TV duplicate content," said Glen Patrick, the executive general manager for TAB, who announced last month Trackside will switch to Sky from April 14.

Patrick was responding to questions from Hawke's Bay Today after a rash of text messages and letters to the newspaper from disgruntled punters.

Arthur Bott, of Hastings, wrote a letter to the editor condemning the TAB for its history of providing a "very poor service" to all the small pubs and club outlets serving the betting public.

"Often the profits do not cover the cost of staff and administration time it takes.

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"In my opinion, the TAB has shot itself in both feet with this ridiculous change of policy. Will all the telephone account punters be happy to place their bets if they can't see the races on Freeview in their homes? I can't believe they will," Bott wrote.

Asked if it was a matter of profit versus loyalty to punters, Patrick said while Freeview was free to the consumer, the costs associated with broadcasting on the service were substantial.

"The number of viewers using this service does not make economic sense going forward. Our research shows 18 per cent of our customer base use Freeview [but] 79 per cent already view our channels through Sky in their homes."

Patrick said the board had received "significant support" throughout the country as well as some complaints, "which was to be expected".

"While we have received other customer complaints from other areas of the country to date, we have had 50 per cent more sign-ups on to Sky versus the number of customer complaints - showing that our research and the offer put to our customers has helped to facilitate the transition."

It had no plans to provide a daily wrap on any other free-to-air TV services but, she said, the Melbourne Cup and a range of New Zealand's premier racing events would still be available live free on Prime.

They include the New Zealand Trotting Cup, New Zealand Galloping Cup, Wellington Cup, Karaka Millions, Waikato Sprint, Auckland Cup, Harness Jewels and the Great Northern Steeplechase.

Patrick said the board was listening to customers.

"It should be noted that the additional revenue received from switching across to Sky TV will enable us to invest in our programming and take on board the feedback customers have been giving us for many years.

"If we remain on Freeview we will not be able to make these enhancements."

He said it also would help the board increase its financial return to the racing industry.

"We return all our profit to the industry, yet it faces significant challenges.

"To safeguard the industry and ensure customers have quality racing to watch, we need to act.

"We have developed a strategy to address this and the move to Sky TV is a key part of that."

Patrick said punters would also support the industry by betting through the TAB.

Trackside is now broadcast on the Freeview and Sky TV platforms but it is understood a desire to save money on broadcasting fees paid to Freeview and Kordia was behind the board's decision.

Patrick said while saving money on broadcasting fees was a factor, a plan to split content across two channels - which will be rebranded Trackside 1 and Trackside 2 - could be achieved if they were broadcast on the same platform.

"It is a better commercial deal," he said.

- HAWKES BAY TODAY

By Anendra Singh

 

 

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An interesting snippet re Pay TV/ Internet etc from the UK some may be interested in.

 

It's observed that Sky TV are increasing there prices there soon.

 

Sky deals are also been offered in the UK on Groupon.

 

Does anyone know if they have a similar offer in NZ?

 

 

For the best TV deal... watch this space! From broadband bundles to Freeview and Netflix, our guide to the best on the box

 

By Laura Shannon, Financial Mail On Sunday

Published: 21:19 GMT, 2 August 2014 | Updated: 08:50 GMT, 4 August 2014

 
 

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-2714076/For-best-TV-deal-watch-space-From-broadband-bundles-Freeview-Netflix-guide-best-box.html

 

Traditional telly-viewing has been turned upside down by the arrival of internet TV. Deciding how to watch has become as much of a challenge as deciding what to watch since TVs turned intelligent, offering an overwhelming choice of formats.

 

It is now scarcely possible to arrange the line rental on your home telephone without being sold a TV package. TalkTalk, once a broadband and phone-only provider, is now one of the fastest-growing TV package providers with more than a million customers.

Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-2714076/For-best-TV-deal-watch-space-From-broadband-bundles-Freeview-Netflix-guide-best-box.html#ixzz3BNPs51Vo
 

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Perhaps someone should ask  Freeview TV's Sam Irvine, what role he had to play in the Trackside deal going from Freeview TV & why he allowed it to go, if he did have a role to play..

 

It is noted that he says the biggest business mistake he's made is "Not listening enough - the customer is always right."

 

fyi Sam if this topic comes to your attention, if it hasn't been already, there is a Keep Trackside on Freeview Facebook page that is still attracting likes and attention.

 

Keep Trackside on Freeview

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-Trackside-on-Freeview/611059238959459

 

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  Meet the Boss: Freeview's Sam Irvine Last updated 12:42 07/08/2014

 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/better-business/10358637/Meet-the-Boss-Freeviews-Sam-Irvine

 

Sam Irvine, general manager of Freeview, tells us why he likes doing business in Auckland and why the customer is always right.

 

What's the biggest business mistake you've made?
Not listening enough - the customer is always right.

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By the looks of this there are plenty of people throughout NZ that still to this day do not have acceptable internet access.

 

At a guess many  are not able to watch Trackside on the Watch & bet service offered as an alternative to Sky TV options.

 

Click on the link for full content.

 

Nats may extend UFB rollout

TOM PULLAR-STRECKER

Last updated 05:00 24/08/2014

 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10412411/Nats-may-extend-UFB-rollout

 

The National Party could pull a rabbit out of the hat when it announces its ICT policy in the next week or two by extending its flagship $3.5 billion ultrafast broadband initiative.

 

The ultrafast broadband (UFB) initiative is progressing satisfactorily despite the controversies and ill-temper surrounding the financial squeeze on telecommunications network company Chorus.

 

More than half a million homes, businesses and schools now have access to UFB, and a respectable 39,500 have signed up to a service. But the current plan is to roll out the network to only 33 cities and towns, covering about 75 per cent of the population.

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Glenn Patrick, would you please disclose the full & complete "survey" you were party to having conducted prior to the robbing New Zealand viewers of there Trackside TV from Free To Air Freeview TV, a niche market?

 

It is a reasonable request and taking into account the fact that in the UK they only sample 5100 households out of over 25 million homes it is very important to be transparent and act with Integrity to the people in New Zealand who support Racing as well.

 

Thanks

 

fyi:

 

Television must mine bigger data

http://www.dtg.org.uk/news/news.php?class=countries&subclass=0&id=5208

 

So, is it possible to predict a successful programme from a TV ratings-disaster in the making? The UK ratings panel Barb (Broadcasters' Audience Research Board) measures TV viewership using a sample of just 5,100 homes. And, over the years, it has done a sterling job of quantifying TV viewing, establishing the trading currency in the media. However, in an increasingly fragmented, multi-channel environment, when you consider that there are around 25m homes in the UK,

 

Barb analysis is only meaningful for the big channels who can operate on the large rounded figures as they command the lion's share, but this makes it a significant challenge for the hundreds of emerging channels who target niche audiences.

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How many viewers has Racing lost if over 1.2 million viewers tuned in to watch The Edge in the 1st month on channel 11, used to be Trackside?

 

It raises the question, did Trackside used to have over a million viewers watching on Freeview?

 

1.2 million viewers tune in to The Edge TV

http://www.voxy.co.nz/entertainment/12-million-viewers-tune-edge-tv/5/199877

 

The Edge TV has gone straight to the top of the charts. The first audience numbers for MediaWorks’ newest TV channel show 1.2 million viewers tuned in to The Edge TV in the past month (5+ cume), making it the #1 music television channel in the market, with a 35% margin on its nearest competitor.-

 

 

Mediaworks The Edge Radio Station takes over the previously occupied by Trackside channel 11 on Freeview TV as from 4 pm Friday.

 

Now who is it again that are Directors of Freeview TV?

 

 

And who's pockets are they lining?

 

 

Are they on key performance indicator ( kpi) bonuses, at our Racing Industries expense?

 

 

 

What are the boards legal obligations to it's customers/ consumers in relation to the broadcasting of local content?

 

 

Like we need to see some of these " radio stations" on live TV, there were plenty of other available "Freeview channels" they could have occupied if indeed they even need to be on tv.

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That Edge music channel is pretty good......

 

Good to see you are still pushing shit uphill with a chopstick on this one Meomy.....

 

Would be interesting to see what feedback we get on here regarding the new Trackside 1 and 2 format. Seems pretty good to me, sure they could improve, but overall I am happy.

 

I would be more interested to see how many on here have given up watching, including those that do not watch bet and win...ever. I bet we could count them easily......

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That Edge music channel is pretty good......

 

Good to see you are still pushing shit uphill with a chopstick on this one Meomy.....

 

Would be interesting to see what feedback we get on here regarding the new Trackside 1 and 2 format. Seems pretty good to me, sure they could improve, but overall I am happy.

 

I would be more interested to see how many on here have given up watching, including those that do not watch bet and win...ever. I bet we could count them easily......

 

More mindless BS from Meomy!

Suck it up. Racing is not a charity! User pays

 

Quite a few posters on here have given up the punt since free-view gone,

my kids now watch channel 11 for music.

Luckily I,ve stuck with the changes and have TAB A/C so watch through, watch and bet 

TAB.CO.NZ... $10 HDMI cable plugs into modern computer onto flatscreen.

Any other sport available through numerous other freeview websites!

WHO NEEDS SKY PORTY?

How much was the Sale to sky worth??? still waiting answer!...V ... lost betting revenue? 

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Go back to posts 567,68,72...crusty has mates that support meomy along with I...

However as you say Kakama, I,ve found my way around it (above) and have moved on.

Pretty sure this will be my last post on it.

Was just curious how much the deal was worth and why all the secrecy?

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Have you ever been stuck in a hospital for any length of time MrBigStuff?

 

 

We wouldn't wish it upon anyone.

 

Patients in hospitals ( including Spinal Units) don't have access to Trackside anymore so no it's not a case of " sucking it up, racing is not a charity" .

 

 

In the real world, patients

don't not have Sky TV or computers on to watch the Races on, in fact you may find some hospitals even request you turn off your cellphones.

 

 

They do however have " commoners" tv sets.

 

 

How about looking outside the square for a change instead of been a sheep?

 

 

 

Some of us look at the wider global picture & the way things shape our world & impact on the lives of ordinary people.

 

 

 

More mindless BS from Meomy!
Suck it up. Racing is not a charity! User pays

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Oh no.....No horse racing to watch when you are in hospital???? How bad can live get. Sitting back watching the gee gees...sipping champagne....caviar with a couple of nurses and a doctor?? You have never given up Meomy....I will give you that. Who cares about the nags when you are in hospital....its not a bloody hotel?

 

So tell me....how has it affected your punting? Have you stopped...or were you not really punting before. Seems that everyone has moved on...well nearly all.

 

The TAB figures must be holding up alright......otherwise the negatives on here would be posting flat tack.....

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Ain't been much. "spark" from Spark today ;)

 

 

Sounds like malware has been spread through there systems.

 

 

Off this topic a little, but still related, the fact that those reliant on watching the races via there Spark ( aka Telecom) provided " Watch & Bet" today would have had no access to watching & betting on the internet today if they don't have Sky TV.

 

 No doubt it will have made an impact on betting turnover & viewing numbers.

 

 

 

Just another valid reason to bring back Trackside racing on Free to Air Freeview tv in NZ.

 

 

Let's hope other countries that broadcast racing on mainstream free to air Tv learn from NZ racings situation & never allow it to be taken from the traditional public broadcasting tv channels.

 

 

 

It's not to late to like the Keep Trackside on Freeview Facebook page.

 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-Trackside-on-Freeview/611059238959459

 

Another interesting piece of news around broadcasting this past couple of weeks was that released by Telecom (Spark).  Their internet TV with potentially unlimited channels streamed across broadband would cost $5m a year to run and $15m to purchase the content.

 

Given that the NZRB already stream their content across data connections will SKY TV allow them to stream through Telecom?

 

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I wondered what happened yesterday...swore, blamed my computer and stopped betting early...

After singing Watch and Bets praises to all...yesterdays disaster must have cost turnover dearly.

Whateva...No Freeview...They couldn,t run a pissup in a brewery. 

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To the forefront for those that have decided to watch Trackside spring races & the Melbourne Cup on NZ tv & discovered that the races are no longer been broadcast to the majority of grass roots Kiwis that may not have been aware why Trackside is not there on Freeview TV.

 

 

Remember to write those letters to the new CEO of NZRB, like the Keep Trackside on Freeview facebook page & pass the link on to others to do the same.

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Interesting comments from Peter Thompson from Barfoot & Thompson Real Estate agents that sponsor a number of races in relation to Sky TV in the Herald in the last week.

 

The guts of it been saying young ones that want to buy a house want it all including Sky TV which when one wants to buy a house is not an essential.

 

Perhaps he should rattle a few in the racing industry & tell them to give back Trackside TV to those same young ones on Freeview TV so they can still enjoy the races & a bet from time to time.

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Mrs Ed, has there been any more updates since this press article re this?

 

Seven, TVN on brink of 10-year deal for two-state vision rights Date September 21, 2014

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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/horseracing/seven-tvn-on-brink-of-10year-deal-for-twostate-vision-rights-20140921-10k1v0.html

 

Grand vision: Channel Seven will offer TVN $600 million for a decade-long deal. Photo: Getty Images

 

Channel Seven is set to table an offer to the board of racing channel TVN this week to control the vision rights of NSW and Victoria racing for the next 10 years.

Fairfax Media has learnt the offer will be more than $600 million and is what racing administrators have been awaiting in writing after months of negotiations.

 TVN pays Seven more than $2 million for 28 Saturday meetings to be shown on free-to-air television. But this deal would eventually be linked to possibly take up a wagering licence, something the racing industry has wanted to do in Victoria.

 

The Victorian industry was blocked by government from bidding at the last set of negotiations because Racing Victoria is the regulator. The Victorian wagering licence held by Tabcorp does not come up for grabs for another decade.

 

The top-secret dealings between Seven and TVN were exposed by Fairfax Media this month but racing administrators have been at pains to say there is nothing formal in place. It has been flagged that it will come this week.
 

Under the deal TVN could move to the Seven digital television platform, which would open it to a wider audience, one of the stated aims of the racing channel. That would also lessen the value of the pay-TV rights held by Tabcorp-owned Sky Channel.

 

TVN holds the rights to all NSW and Victoria racing and has spent more than two years trying to agree on the new deal with Sky Channel. It has stalled at a price of $40 million to $44 million a year with Tabcorp wanting live vision and access to race replays for its website in the contract.

 

While the rights deal has been in a state of flux, TVN and Sky have been rolling over their previous arrangement on a month by month basis.

 

Seven is the second player in the market, which TVN has been hoping for, and it would also be interested in moving TVN's website racingnetwork.com.au to its Yahoo7 from Telstra.

 

TVN is set to be rebranded next month as the Racing Network to match its website. The racing channel recently moved on to a general package at Foxtel, where its contract ends next year.

 

TVN, which costs about $20 million a year to run, gets to only 30 per cent of the TV audience through Foxtel. The roll-out of the digital spectrum in 2015 makes the Seven deal attractive.

 

 The TVN-Telstra joint venture for digital rights ends next April and TVN's agreement with Chief Entertainment, which is owned by Telstra, for studio and production space is believed to be up next year.

 

Racing Victoria's new website Racing.com and Racing NSW are paying Telstra to have access to race replays because of its digital contract.

 

The Seven deal would open up the opportunity for the free-to-air channel  to take on the production of TVN and have its website on Yahoo7.

 

 

 

 

So as Australia, with Horse Racing and Wagering ALREADY a big part of it's culture moves to have Racing available Free To Air;  NZ with it's dying generation of Punters/Racing Enthusiasts and a new generation who's culture doesn't embrace it, moves to limit Racing & Wagering's exposure by going PAY TV. *bravo folks* NOT :blink:

 

Sydney Morning Herald 06 Oct 2013:

 

Racing Television channel TVN plans to move from Foxtel to the free-to-air digital spectrum to take the sport to the biggest possible audience.

 

*  TVN to take a place on free-to-air as part of the roll out with the new digital spectrum in 2015.

*  Could reap big returns for the industry in terms of exposure

*  Grow the product by featuring Victoria and NSW Racing to the biggest audience, which will help develop wagering and returns to the industry

 

Full article:  smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/racing-channel-to-swap-pay-tv-for-mainstream-20131006-2v1z2.html

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Here's the article where Peter Thompson mentions re Sky TV.

 

Any financial planner would also tell it's clients to do away with Sky TV and takeaways & going out socializing on a Friday & Saturday night if they want to get ahead financialy & buy there own home.

 

Get real: chief's message to young home buyers + video

5:00 AM Wednesday Oct 29, 2014
 

Young first-time home buyers have lofty expectations, says real estate head.

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11349599

 

"They still want to go out on a Friday and Saturday night and have a good life as well as most probably have Sky TV. You know, sometimes you've just got to forgo something if you really want to progress," Thompson said.

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