chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted October 28, 2013 Might be a bit hard to answer if they are only up to race 5 and the last hasn't been run yet I trust you won't be one of the barstaff on Cup Day - there could be trouble Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted October 28, 2013 Drunkenness at Ellerslie is nothing new. I remember Auckland Cup Day 1968 old men staggering their way from the beer garden to the old totalisator board betting area. The only difference now is, the authorities are making their presence felt to stop drunk driving. Yesterday, there were two road blocks in our area where I have never seen road blocks before only breath-testing people, not the slightest bit interested in Registration and Warrant of Fitness. It always makes me laugh when people go on about binge drinking and NZ's problems, and how it is getting worse etc etc. As you correctly point out it is nothing new. Anyone who has drunk at a pub in England or Australia will also tell you it is not a uniquely NZ problem. If you have been to Cheltenham or Aintree, or Flemington it is also not solely a problem on NZ racecourses. I would venture to guess that 90% of the people involved are little or no trouble as well. But those 90% have their enjoyment restricted due to the 10%... Centrofold and THE TORCH 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted October 28, 2013 chelseacol... I agree with your sentiments, with the exception of the percentage of troublemakers. The percentage, in my opinion, is less than 2%, in all probability, around 1%. I base this on a lifetime of observation and participation. The number involved always appears much bigger than it is because of all the innocent parties that get caught up in trouble through no fault of their own. As an aside, I have heard it suggested that the so-called "drinking culture" discussed here is a product of what are termed Anglo-Saxon countries. New Zealand, Australia and England fall into this category. Cheers! Ashoka Centrofold 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrofold 147 Report post Posted October 28, 2013 True Ashoka - other countries are into 'alternative drugs'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted October 28, 2013 chelseacol... I agree with your sentiments, with the exception of the percentage of troublemakers. The percentage, in my opinion, is less than 2%, in all probability, around 1%. I base this on a lifetime of observation and participation. The number involved always appears much bigger than it is because of all the innocent parties that get caught up in trouble through no fault of their own. As an aside, I have heard it suggested that the so-called "drinking culture" discussed here is a product of what are termed Anglo-Saxon countries. New Zealand, Australia and England fall into this category. Cheers! Ashoka Yes Ashoka I imagine you are absolutely right. Col Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,403 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 I raised this point because it was not the drunkeness that offended me; it was outright agression of the three drunks. Very ugly. Later on one bloke, who had been trying all day to get one of the lovely young maiden's to win his Cock's plate, backed a maiden in the last race at Melbourne. A delightful and happy drunk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,403 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 Sorry, No apostrophe in maidens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambling_Kidd 160 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 Couldn't beat the Moroney piss up at Ellerslie a few weeks after Brew won the Melbourne Cup, my gawd, a whole shipping container !!! of Steinlager. Free for all !!!!!!! and thinking about it, there was not one incident of violence ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley 1,900 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 ..now That's Shouting!, actually, it's downright screaming really Ruddy good upon 'Team~Moroney'..i never got to hear about that deed., and nice to see no 'agro'..but then how could there be any under those auspices Eigh! (geeeze, a container of Steinlager ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 ..now That's Shouting!, actually, it's downright screaming really Ruddy good upon 'Team~Moroney'..i never got to hear about that deed., and nice to see no 'agro'..but then how could there be any under those auspices Eigh! (geeeze, a container of Steinlager ) That's a great story. Goes to show that not everyone is predisposed to acting like a dick with a beer or eight on board. Those of you who have been to Vegas will be aware that in the right circumstances people can wander up and down the street with liquor of all kinds, in and out of casinos and drink all day and night, and minimal trouble. Of course they are being treated like adults, and security take the approach of dealing with those who are out of control, rather than ruining everyone else's fun..... I'll stop making the same point over and over now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBHunter 100 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 That's a great story. Goes to show that not everyone is predisposed to acting like a dick with a beer or eight on board. Those of you who have been to Vegas will be aware that in the right circumstances people can wander up and down the street with liquor of all kinds, in and out of casinos and drink all day and night, and minimal trouble. Of course they are being treated like adults, and security take the approach of dealing with those who are out of control, rather than ruining everyone else's fun..... I'll stop making the same point over and over now Those of you who went to he Hokitika wild food festival prior to 2007 or there abouts will also know about happy drunks in the streets. It was all good until the dickheads arrived and forced the councils hand in introducing a liquor ban. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Drunkenness at Ellerslie is nothing new. I remember Auckland Cup Day 1968 old men staggering their way from the beer garden to the old totalisator board betting area. The only difference now is, the authorities are making their presence felt to stop drunk driving. Yesterday, there were two road blocks in our area where I have never seen road blocks before only breath-testing people, not the slightest bit interested in Registration and Warrant of Fitness. Yeah interesting side note over 700 were killed on the roads in 1973 and only in the 200's this year.Rose tinted glasses about yesteryear perhaps? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBHunter 100 Report post Posted October 31, 2013 Yeah interesting side note over 700 were killed on the roads in 1973 and only in the 200's this year.Rose tinted glasses about yesteryear perhaps? Back in the early 70s mum would pile us all into the falcon, no seat belts in the back and front ones unused. The back seat was usually a brawl within a mile. The cars were very solid back then and this didn't help people survive high impacts. gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley 1,900 Report post Posted October 31, 2013 ..loved the 70's., th'Cars th'Music th'People th'Horses..and NEW Zealand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted October 31, 2013 yeah and back in the 70's - you had to drive if you were too drunk to sing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley 1,900 Report post Posted October 31, 2013 ..yeah the auto pilots in cars were far more accurate..my wee Mk~1 Cortina, had a very sophisticated system Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted November 1, 2013 Fords - one of my mates had a Mk 1 Capri and woke up one Sunday morning to find it not 'out front' so rang Mr Plod and reported it stolen. About an hour or so later the nice constable knocked on the door and said we have found your car... it is 2 doors down parked up their driveway....we found it by following some footmarks in the frost and it took us over your front lawn and over the fence to the neighbours and then over the next fence. gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley 1,900 Report post Posted November 1, 2013 Classic....brilliant Oops Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambling_Kidd 160 Report post Posted November 1, 2013 .......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambling_Kidd 160 Report post Posted November 1, 2013 ..now That's Shouting!, actually, it's downright screaming really Ruddy good upon 'Team~Moroney'..i never got to hear about that deed., and nice to see no 'agro'..but then how could there be any under those auspices Eigh! (geeeze, a container of Steinlager ) A wicked day indeed ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...