Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted July 24, 2013 Looking at the fields carded for this Friday's night meeting at Hatrick Raceway, it appears to me that the fields for races eight and ten have been incorrectly drawn. These two races have both been carded as mixed grade 3/4 races. However, the two fields consist of ten grade 4 dogs and eight grade 3 dogs. Therefore, the Rules of Greyhound Racing require there to be two straight-class races. These fields need to be re-drawn. Please correct me if you think that I am wrong. Thank you. Ashoka Awesome-O 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustydreamnz 493 Report post Posted July 24, 2013 Looking at the fields carded for this Friday's night meeting at Hatrick Raceway, it appears to me that the fields for races eight and ten have been incorrectly drawn. These two races have both been carded as mixed grade 3/4 races. However, the two fields consist of ten grade 4 dogs and eight grade 3 dogs. Therefore, the Rules of Greyhound Racing require there to be two straight-class races. These fields need to be re-drawn. Please correct me if you think that I am wrong. Thank you. Ashoka I agree with you Ashoka. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman 1,352 Report post Posted July 24, 2013 I will bow to your superior knowledge Ashoka, makes perfect sense to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 25, 2013 Looking at the fields carded for this Friday's night meeting at Hatrick Raceway, it appears to me that the fields for races eight and ten have been incorrectly drawn. These two races have both been carded as mixed grade 3/4 races. However, the two fields consist of ten grade 4 dogs and eight grade 3 dogs. Therefore, the Rules of Greyhound Racing require there to be two straight-class races. These fields need to be re-drawn. Please correct me if you think that I am wrong. Thank you. Ashoka have they finn a reserve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Fan 577 Report post Posted July 25, 2013 have they finn a reserve You are a complete idiot.----- howrude, whataguy and GONSTA 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 25, 2013 You are a complete idiot.----- thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrock 127 Report post Posted July 25, 2013 I think the way they have done it is perfectly correct. Top down grading, all c4 dogs should recieve a run before the c3 dogs whataguy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted July 25, 2013 punkrock... Straight class races are to be run if possible. Straight class races can be run in this instance. The Rules are clear. The Rules have been broken. Further, the two dogs in the, essentially, c3 race appear to be the least deserving, under the selection criteria, but have been treated the most favourably, making a mockery of the logic that underpins our grading and field selection systems. The least deserving are getting a softer run for the same money than the more highly-credentialed c4 dogs, who have had a much tougher task assigned to them. This situation is illegal. This situation is morally reprehensible. Cheers. Ashoka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 25, 2013 punkrock... Straight class races are to be run if possible. Straight class races can be run in this instance. The Rules are clear. The Rules have been broken. Further, the two dogs in the, essentially, c3 race appear to be the least deserving, under the selection criteria, but have been treated the most favourably, making a mockery of the logic that underpins our grading and field selection systems. The least deserving are getting a softer run for the same money than the more highly-credentialed c4 dogs, who have had a much tougher task assigned to them. This situation is illegal. This situation is morally reprehensible. Cheers. Ashoka has anyone supplied a reason why this happened Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmissile 409 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 From Wanganui? Are you joking? modest mouse and Awesome-O 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 From Wanganui? Are you joking? point taken hedley and Awesome-O 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrock 127 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 Had a look at the fields today and retract my previous statement, whilst i think that the higer grade dogs should get a run, the way they have done the fields on this occasion is wrong it's a ballroom and hedley 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunyarra 185 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 This is the very reason why every state in Australia now has centralised grading. It removes the risk of club and committee input or bias, conflict of interest and any perception thereof. Therefore the grading/selection process is transparent. Something else that amazes me here in New Zealand is that each club has a different selection criteria. Surely it should be a National standard and be one and the same for all tracks. The current arrangement clearly highlights that a club and it's committee may have a vested interest in drawing fields to their liking. chiknsmack, aquaman, hedley and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrock 127 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 This is the very reason why every state in Australia now has centralised grading. It removes the risk of club and committee input or bias, conflict of interest and any perception thereof. Therefore the grading/selection process is transparent. Something else that amazes me here in New Zealand is that each club has a different selection criteria. Surely it should be a National standard and be one and the same for all tracks. The current arrangement clearly highlights that a club and it's committee may have a vested interest in drawing fields to their liking. Agree 1000% big changes are needed in Nz racing, but the way things are set up the only people who can change it are the clubs themselves.... which will never happen, because each club believes they are doing a good job and better than the rest. chiknsmack 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 Yes. Aussies grading system is ten times better then our own Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustydreamnz 493 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 Our sport is growing fast. Can you imagine how fast it would grow if it was run better? chiknsmack 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 Lol... Now thats a good one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin 200 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 The national selection suggestion has been on the cards for decades. Trouble is clubs have to vote to change it and for some that would take away some perceived advantage. I think one of the holdups is no one could agree on what the national policy should be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 I think the cd has the best selection policy because they go off all of there last few starts instead of just one last start Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin 200 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 See what I men Alltheway, someone else could put up a good argument that the last start is all that is needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 Yes i do mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...