The Apprentice 1 Report post Posted January 20, 2010 Mike Dillon has said that it would be a surprise if the Telegraph winner came from other than, Wealth Princess, Mufasa, Coup Align and Gold Trail. Apart from Mufasa and Gold Trail, he may be in for a surprise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrofold 147 Report post Posted January 20, 2010 Mike Dillon has said that it would be a surprise if the Telegraph winner came from other than, Wealth Princess, Mufasa, Coup Align and Gold Trail. Apart from Mufasa and Gold Trail, he may be in for a surprise. Well, if people leave Mufhasa out of their calculations, they do so at their own peril. He might not win it but I would expect him not to be far away (if last years performance was anything to go by). The track is a concern this year. Anything outside of a good track is a worry. The others you have mentioned are last start winners. So yes, they would not be a surprise. I generally respect Mike's reasoning. I think he said Spring Rain would win the year Star of Gold won the race. He must have forgotten at that point Star of Gold held the track record at Trentham. If I remember correctly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apprentice 1 Report post Posted January 20, 2010 Gold Trail and Mufasa pick themselves. Wealth Princess has an astute guy training her so he must think she is something special to line her up in this. Coup Align I think is out of his depth. This is a wide open race and Dillon has got it wrong if he thinks a winner outside his named four would surprise. Luck at the 300m is crucial especially for those behind the front bunch. Tavistock for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrofold 147 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 Tavistock, yes I like him. There is also a forgotten horse in the field who has run a few good races against some class thoroughbreds. So I have a tendancy to think that Mike just might be aware of that one too. I am not going to mention the horse and I doubt that too many keen Telegraph punters will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley 1,900 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 ..bit of a mushroom cloud above th'HUTT ya reckon Jane...,.. ..bloody FR:DGGS ! ..a cutty top'll find us fission well i hope :cocktail: ..we'll include and expect 10CC's hit too . . .it'll be art for art's sake Jane Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 Coup Align I think is out of his depth. interesting this one - I live in the South and love backing north island horses when they come down here - so I think I know where you are coming from. But, this horse could be something special. It needs to be a good track, and the draw is not great, but not sure you can discount it on what it has done so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Loosen Up 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 I generally respect Mike's reasoning. Good grief. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abit roughhouse 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 changes happening here! 16 $3.80 Wealth Princess (10)52 8 $5.50 Wall Street (13)53.5 1 $6.50 A Gold Trail (8)57 2 $9.00 Mufhasa (14)57 11 $10.00 Coup Align (11)52.5 4 $14.00 Atapi (2)55 7 $14.00 Tavistock (1)54 9 $21.00 Keano (3)53 10 $26.00 Kiloton (5)53 12 $26.00 Vonusti (17)52.5 15 $26.00 Attackum (7)52 5 $31.00 Veloz (4)55 6 $31.00 Ruud Van Slaats (16)54 3 $41.00 Richard Beymer (6)57 13 $41.00 Stupendous (12)52.5 14 $51.00 Tootsie (9)52.5 17 $61.00 De Los Angeles (15)51.5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abit roughhouse 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Head to Head 1 $1.87 Vonusti 2 $1.87 Attackum H to H 1 $1.55 A Gold Trail 2 $2.30 Coup Align 1st Montjeu Home 1 $3.25 Tavistock 2 $1.30 Wall Street 1st ozzie home.. 1 $1.45 A Gold Trail 2 $4.50 Keano 3 $5.25 Kiloton Track rating for the day. 1 $5.25 someone forgets to turn the tap off! 2 $4.50 Better that you would think 3 $1.45 Take what you are given! its our track and we will do what we like with it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berleybag 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 it rains and track floods. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Wealth Princess has an astute guy training her so he must think she is something special to line her up in this. Coup Align I think is out of his depth. I don't see why if you look at Coup Align's record and manner of wins that anyone could think he's "out of his depth." Mike Pitman is no mug trainer and he thinks Coup Align is something real special too! David Walsh who has won on the horse gave him a real 'wrap' in yesterday's paper too. Make no mistake - if they don't completely stuff the track with their watering overnight he's right in this race on 52.5kgs! I think Gold Trail willl fold in the last 100 or so in this race. He got a relatively 'easy' win in the Railway through dictating the pace - but this race will be run in a world record over 1200m - not 1100 - and I think he'll be swamped late. Portelli has been talking him up in the press but he did say on arrival in NZ that the horse was really an 1100m horse and needed things go his way to win over 1200m. None of us know just how good Wealth Princess is yet - she sure LOOKS awesome at this point, and may look even more sensational after the race - but in my opinion, Coup Align is probably the fastest 1200m horse in NZ at present. It IS his biggest test - but don't discount him - he's a tough, freakishly fast sprinter! Mufhasa COULD slingshot them at his best - as could Wall Street and Tavistock; and Coup Align and Gold Trail between them could set it up perfectly for any of those three and W.P to do just that. But boy! they will have to run a record to do it I reckon. And I know of those two expected leaders, who I'd be expecting to get 'the stitch' at the 100m mark - and it aint Coup Align!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunlineboy 131 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Wall Street a 1200 horse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrofold 147 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 ..bit of a mushroom cloud above th'HUTT ya reckon Jane...,.. ..bloody FR:DGGS ! ..a cutty top'll find us fission well i hope :cocktail: ..we'll include and expect 10CC's hit too . . .it'll be art for art's sake Jane ] I don't know about "a bit of a mushroom cloud above the hutt" - word is Wealth Princess is going to win..... What more can I say lol Money for God's sake! Good song that "Art for Arts sake" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contentious 597 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Track rating for the day. 1 $5.25 someone forgets to turn the tap off! 2 $4.50 Better that you would think 3 $1.45 Take what you are given! its our track and we will do what we like with it! :y: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon 107 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Montjeu stats - 255 starters over 1001m-1300m for 19 winners (7.5%) and 48 pacegetters (26%). Not sure that eith Wall Street or Taistock will change the 19 to a 20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 I don't see why if you look at Coup Align's record and manner of wins that anyone could think he's "out of his depth." Mike Pitman is no mug trainer and he thinks Coup Align is something real special too! David Walsh who has won on the horse gave him a real 'wrap' in yesterday's paper too. Make no mistake - if they don't completely stuff the track with their watering overnight he's right in this race on 52.5kgs! I think Gold Trail willl fold in the last 100 or so in this race. He got a relatively 'easy' win in the Railway through dictating the pace - but this race will be run in a world record over 1200m - not 1100 - and I think he'll be swamped late. Portelli has been talking him up in the press but he did say on arrival in NZ that the horse was really an 1100m horse and needed things go his way to win over 1200m. None of us know just how good Wealth Princess is yet - she sure LOOKS awesome at this point, and may look even more sensational after the race - but in my opinion, Coup Align is probably the fastest 1200m horse in NZ at present. It IS his biggest test - but don't discount him - he's a tough, freakishly fast sprinter! Mufhasa COULD slingshot them at his best - as could Wall Street and Tavistock] Agree with what you said about Coup Align.He is fastest horse in country by a long way however with the watering of the track he no chance tomorrow.Have heard expect track to be rated a slow 7 by about r5 tomorrow if any rain in morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moz1047 93 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Wall Street a 1200 horse? Wet track probably makes it more like a 1400. Brings Wall St, Vonusti & Mufhasa right into it. Wont suit the speedsters like Coup Align, A Gold Trail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Wet track probably makes it more like a 1400. Brings Wall St, Vonusti & Mufhasa right into it. Wont suit the speedsters like Coup Align, A Gold Trail Nah mate - a wet track brings Atapi right into it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abit roughhouse 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Nah mate - a wet track brings Atapi right into it! Not a chance Lloyd!!! scr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todamax101 533 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Nah mate - a wet track brings Atapi right into it! Richard Otto said both Atapi and Attackum need a good track. Even a Dead5 would be enough to stop their chances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 742 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Nah mate - a wet track brings Atapi right into it! .....no chance* , but aren't Aussie sprinters generally better than ours ? *.....scr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TORCH 665 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Vonusti! Good luck Tom and Phil!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted January 23, 2010 What a let-down! A slow 7 for the race of the year...Coup Align will still battle on through it, but no chance to show his best. Nor many of the other REAL sprinters. Why MUST they add water when so much rain is around??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Horse Stopper 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2010 sneaked Keano into this race and the track's rated as slow. He's not a super star but is adempt in the wet stuff. Could be worth a bet. Good luck to all the connections. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrofold 147 Report post Posted January 23, 2010 Vonusti! Good luck Tom and Phil!! Congratulations to all connected with the horse------ Great run. Noel.... you are a champion. How many times have you 'slotted' them around Trentham. I have lost count. What did I say "expect the unexpected". lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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