Naki 13 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 We a shares available in a lovely Thorn park filly out of listed winner Grace Park. She is a yearling and doesn't come with a right of purchase. Shares are $50 a week for a 10%. There are no buy in costs and your weekly payment will cover everything. She doesn't come with a Right Of Purchase. She will be trained in New Plymouth by Janelle Millar. Please email palm.view.racing@gmail.com for more information. I look forward to receiving you enquires Jay Millar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nek minute 296 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 $2000 a month i could do it for $1200-$1300 unless its a champion its a bit steep Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naki 13 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 Our average monthly bill is around $1500 a month. Our shares are this price to allow the account to build up to help cover future extra unforeseen costs such as vet bills. Any money left in the account gets paid back after the horses final bill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldrick 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 200 a month per 10% share is normal and is what we pay. Costs 1800 a month for trainer and sometimes we have upto $600 in other costs - jumpouts, races, transport etc etc. Luckily the account builds up during spells as $2000 a month nowhere near covers a horse that is racing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Smit 3 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 $2000 a month i could do it for $1200-$1300 unless its a champion its a bit steep Please explain how you keep it at 12-1300. I spose the saying "pay peanuts, get monkeys" come to mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nek minute 296 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 if its a yearling it hasnt been broken in so costs for the next 1-2 years wouldnt be that much. $38 a day =$1140 + shoeing $90 + track fees $35 = $1265 sometimes there is dentist but not always most trainers charge way to much per day and for travel, also heard of people charging for gear hire! thats what makes it expensive. if you take 5 horses in your truck 3 hours down the road how could you charge $100 per horse?? it wouldnt cost $500 for fuel ,time and wear and tear. not saying you are charging this just my example from past experiance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis 1 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 Gee you wouldn't be happy having a horse with Gai W or Bart then Nek M. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopia 1 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 Gee you wouldn't be happy having a horse with Gai W or Bart then Nek M. Training fees in Melbourne/Sydney, start at $100A per day, plus extras. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nek minute 296 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 if your got a good horse you wouldnt care if you paid big money as long as its winning big races but you wouldnt want a average horses in your average stable but paying big money for it. if you get what i mean..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2012 naki does this filly have bolak in it's pedigree ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Blair 3 Report post Posted June 16, 2012 Bolak. Now there,s a dirty word I havent heard for a long time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted June 16, 2012 Please explain how you keep it at 12-1300. I spose the saying "pay peanuts, get monkeys" come to mind. call it value for money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,693 Report post Posted June 16, 2012 $2000 a month i could do it for $1200-$1300 unless its a champion its a bit steep So don't take a share then,but leave the girl alone,she does a good job,and she is trying to attract owners,good on her I say,no one is forcing you into it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naki 13 Report post Posted June 16, 2012 naki does this filly have bolak in it's pedigree ? yes she does well spotted, its quite a nice pedigree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
droughty 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2012 $2000 a month is very reasonable, as a kitty needs to be built so you are not having to go back and ask for more money. Nek Mintute at $1200/1300 a month I would question wether my horse is being feed and looked after properly, because at that price shortcuts are probably being taken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusserena 19 Report post Posted June 16, 2012 I pay much closer to the $1200 per month training fees for my horses in work. I know they are fed very well and he performed right up to expectations winning his debut 2yo race at Wanganui at the beginning of this month. The trainer also figures very highly on the strike rate award season after season. I do not get any "extra costs" other than the usual - farrier, if any vets costs and track fees. it's a tough business for horse trainers especially with the stake money here in NZ. Wayne first trained a winner for me in 1991 when maideners were running around for $7k and training fees were half of what they are today. it's unfortunate for Wayne but hopefully my boy is "off" to Hong Kong because we cannot afford to keep racing here in NZ for the stake money on offer - as much as we love racing horses Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nek minute 296 Report post Posted June 16, 2012 $2000 a month is very reasonable, as a kitty needs to be built so you are not having to go back and ask for more money. Nek Mintute at $1200/1300 a month I would question wether my horse is being feed and looked after properly, because at that price shortcuts are probably being taken[/QUOT i just budget well and dont charge the earth. ive had 2 wins in the last month from my very small team so i must be looking after them enough. do alot myself and have no hidden costs. tell me why do trainers in the north charge from 50-90 per day and south island charge 38-55 and they still race for mostly the same stake and daily costs wouldnt be that diffrent?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted June 16, 2012 you sound a very practical person and good on you, i have also queried charges in the north. I am going to stick my neck out here and say there are some in the north who think they are above everyone else with their knowledge about horses, why they have this superior attitude belies belief, this may be the reason in some cases why charges are higher, but I also have to say not all are like this, thank goodness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octagonal 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2012 if its a yearling it hasnt been broken in so costs for the next 1-2 years wouldnt be that much. $38 a day =$1140 + shoeing $90 + track fees $35 = $1265 sometimes there is dentist but not always most trainers charge way to much per day and for travel, also heard of people charging for gear hire! thats what makes it expensive. if you take 5 horses in your truck 3 hours down the road how could you charge $100 per horse?? it wouldnt cost $500 for fuel ,time and wear and tear. not saying you are charging this just my example from past experiance Sounds like the horse has been broken in. Are these SI costs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramello 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2012 i just budget well and dont charge the earth. ive had 2 wins in the last month from my very small team so i must be looking after them enough. do alot myself and have no hidden costs. tell me why do trainers in the north charge from 50-90 per day and south island charge 38-55 and they still race for mostly the same stake and daily costs wouldnt be that diffrent?? I'll think you will find that farriers are cheaper in the S/I along with horse feed, which is usually bought up from the S/I, to the N/I, hence the price of feed is dearer up here, the furrther up the island the more the feed must cost i expect. Most Grain & Oaten Chaff come from the S/I. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trakdap 390 Report post Posted June 18, 2012 i just budget well and dont charge the earth. ive had 2 wins in the last month from my very small team so i must be looking after them enough. do alot myself and have no hidden costs. tell me why do trainers in the north charge from 50-90 per day and south island charge 38-55 and they still race for mostly the same stake and daily costs wouldnt be that diffrent?? I'll think you will find that farriers are cheaper in the S/I along with horse feed, which is usually bought up from the S/I, to the N/I, hence the price of feed is dearer up here, the furrther up the island the more the feed must cost i expect. Most Grain & Oaten Chaff come from the S/I. I think you will find most now feed pre pack eg mitavite. this is dearer in the southdue to cartage as is dunstan so your theory that feed is cheaper in SI may not be so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegL 5 Report post Posted June 18, 2012 Where on earth are track fees only $35 a month...!?!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted June 18, 2012 . The trainer also figures very highly on the strike rate award season after season. They do a very good job and have done so for a number of years....good on them! :y: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotchmist 1 Report post Posted June 18, 2012 I pay much closer to the $1200 per month training fees for my horses in work. I know they are fed very well and he performed right up to expectations winning his debut 2yo race at Wanganui at the beginning of this month. The trainer also figures very highly on the strike rate award season after season. I do not get any "extra costs" other than the usual - farrier, if any vets costs and track fees. it's a tough business for horse trainers especially with the stake money here in NZ. Wayne first trained a winner for me in 1991 when maideners were running around for $7k and training fees were half of what they are today. it's unfortunate for Wayne but hopefully my boy is "off" to Hong Kong because we cannot afford to keep racing here in NZ for the stake money on offer - as much as we love racing horses I was present the day she won her first race, our horse was the second winner for the stable that day....just a shame the third runner couldnt quite oblige as the all up would have filled a chaff sack. Good trainers, great people, and best value trainers in NZ bar none. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...