Cody Cole

[Pete Lane]

This is very long so just posting a link.

https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/non-raceday-inquiry-written-reserved-decision-dated-30-january-2026-cody-cole?fbclid=IwdGRjcAPsxY5jbGNrA-zETGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHpI9k36EQCUjmKCpTkhT2B25SrLa5s61PoxISkDJ2LMlMLDq6HW-u-LmdKpk_aem_hO8F71R4uzhGAwCV30joWw

[Winner69]

Yes indeed it is very long.

 

be interesting what the outcome is.

[scooby3051]

And his defence is an absolute joke...he had many chances to provide a sample...and didn't. He needs to be treated exactly the same as all the others punished by this rule...not differently because of who he trains for or who helped him out in his defence...otherwise there is rules for some and rules for the rest.

[JJ Flash]

Surely he must get time out. Jockeys do when they fall foul of drug testing rules

[nomates]

2 minutes ago, JJ Flash said:

Surely he must get time out. Jockeys do when they fall foul of drug testing rules

Well from what I have been told there is another high profile young man in the SI that had a positive from a Monday morning test , but nothing so far .

 

[nomates]

40 minutes ago, scooby3051 said:

And his defence is an absolute joke...he had many chances to provide a sample...and didn't. He needs to be treated exactly the same as all the others punished by this rule...not differently because of who he trains for or who helped him out in his defence...otherwise there is rules for some and rules for the rest.

Always been the way , some people  better than others .

[scooby3051]

3 minutes ago, nomates said:

Well from what I have been told there is another high profile young man in the SI that had a positive from a Monday morning test , but nothing so far .

 

Yes it has been hushed up too....as I said rules for some but not the same rules for others.

[nomates]

26 minutes ago, scooby3051 said:

Yes it has been hushed up too....as I said rules for some but not the same rules for others.

Definitely a who you know business .

[Farnarkler]

The fish rots from the head you know, and sadly it's a shark.

[Ranger]

3 hours ago, Winner69 said:

Yes indeed it is very long.

 

be interesting what the outcome is.

How long does it take to do a pee test? 5 minutes?

I think CC is taking the p!$$

[The Lone Stranger]

59 minutes ago, Ranger said:

How long does it take to do a pee test? 5 minutes?

I think CC is taking the p!$$

To be fair it can take a “wee while”….. although someone should see a doctor if takes days to produce one like it did in this case…..some might wonder if there is more number two than number one in this but who knows

[nomates]

37 minutes ago, The Lone Stranger said:

To be fair it can take a “wee while”….. although someone should see a doctor if takes days to produce one like it did in this case…..some might wonder if there is more number two than number one in this but who knows

I don't want to be the one testing that . Or perhaps some notice so one can take a laxative .

[BUCKY]

1 hour ago, Ranger said:

How long does it take to do a pee test? 5 minutes?

I think CC is taking the p!$$

Of course he is. And who here actually believes it was a 'random' testing morning at the track? Someone had clearly spilt the beans on the guy concerned and the feds were there with him as the target.

[scooby3051]

13 minutes ago, BUCKY said:

Of course he is. And who here actually believes it was a 'random' testing morning at the track? Someone had clearly spilt the beans on the guy concerned and the feds were there with him as the target.

Spilt beans or not should be the same rules for ALL Industry people, not selective rules for some.

[gubellini]

Protected species or 2 big 2 fail. Take your pick. 

[BUCKY]

42 minutes ago, scooby3051 said:

Spilt beans or not should be the same rules for ALL Industry people, not selective rules for some.

Obviously. I sure dont any time for anyone in the industry getting their heads fucked on drugs and then handling horses. Horses don't get to have a choice, the dickheads do.

[scooby3051]

Nothing that has been said here is untrue...as long as it stays that way these issues need to be bought to lighten point one burying their heads in the sand and saying everything is rosy when it is not a level playing field for all the participants...sorry that in my mind is not right.

[Toblerone]

Ignoring the RIB reps on the day and then not finding time to provide a sample for seven days?
Get out of here with your war and peace submissions. Those are the salient facts.

[Alf Riston]

11 hours ago, Pete Lane said:

This is very long so just posting a link.

https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/non-raceday-inquiry-written-reserved-decision-dated-30-january-2026-cody-cole?fbclid=IwdGRjcAPsxY5jbGNrA-zETGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHpI9k36EQCUjmKCpTkhT2B25SrLa5s61PoxISkDJ2LMlMLDq6HW-u-LmdKpk_aem_hO8F71R4uzhGAwCV30joWw

Very long indeed, but the essence of the defense is able to be summarised quite quickly.

Horse shit!

[nomates]

7 hours ago, Alf Riston said:

Very long indeed, but the essence of the defense is able to be summarised quite quickly.

Horse shit!

The defence submissions are supercilious , talk them to death .

[Tauhei Notts]

I have read the case.

My opinion is that because of the many extensive extenuating facts presented by Cole that he should be fined $150.

BUT, that he also be ordered to pay costs to the R.I.B. of something like $20,000.  The R.I.B. is a very expensive outfit to run.  The RIB has been put to huge expense all over a man who wouldn't spend a few minutes urinating.  I don't know, but I think the RIB costs about $16mil per year to run.  Everything they do has to be done in such a time consuming and intricate manner, so that it stands up to rigorous cross examination.  We should not use abbreviations without knowing what the RIB stands for.  It is the Racing Integrity Board.  Integrity is so important in this day and age.  Mr Cole's expensive costs award will be a salutary warning to all licence holders.  The Racing Integrity Board must be treated with the utmost respect and dealings with the RIB treated with the utmost good faith.

[Farnarkler]

Gee TN, and here's me thinking that RIB stood for ''Really Incompetent Bunch'', thanks for setting me straight mate.

[nomates]

14 minutes ago, Tauhei Notts said:

I have read the case.

My opinion is that because of the many extensive extenuating facts presented by Cole that he should be fined $150.

BUT, that he also be ordered to pay costs to the R.I.B. of something like $20,000.  The R.I.B. is a very expensive outfit to run.  The RIB has been put to huge expense all over a man who wouldn't spend a few minutes urinating.  I don't know, but I think the RIB costs about $16mil per year to run.  Everything they do has to be done in such a time consuming and intricate manner, so that it stands up to rigorous cross examination.  We should not use abbreviations without knowing what the RIB stands for.  It is the Racing Integrity Board.  Integrity is so important in this day and age.  Mr Cole's expensive costs award will be a salutary warning to all licence holders.  The Racing Integrity Board must be treated with the utmost respect and dealings with the RIB treated with the utmost good faith.

I sort of get what your saying , but in the wider world of sports athletes are routinely tested for drugs and the one standing rule is that they have a duty to be tested when called upon , and that can include in the early hours of the morning , any time the authorities want . Why ??? To maintain the integrity of the sport that athlete competes in .

If an athlete fails to comply with the order to produce a sample they are hence considered guilty and judged accordingly , no if no buts , produce or your gone .

There maybe situations that I don't know about but on the whole that is the stance .

So what sort of example would a $150 fine set . I'm not saying he conclusively had a substance in his system but his clear disregard for the order to produce doesn't look good , I mean why would you risk this situation if you have nothing to fear by testing . What sort of example is he setting when he is one of the young tyros of NZ training and behaves like he is above the law , and then produces that War and Peace novel as his case .

I have watched no so prominent industry participants hit with far worse for far less .

[Leggy]

It's clearly a case where the penalty should be the same as a positive test. There was absolutely no reason from the evidence presented that he could not have got the test done that day.

[BUCKY]

21 minutes ago, Tauhei Notts said:

I have read the case.

My opinion is that because of the many extensive extenuating facts presented by Cole that he should be fined $150.

BUT, that he also be ordered to pay costs to the R.I.B. of something like $20,000.  The R.I.B. is a very expensive outfit to run.  The RIB has been put to huge expense all over a man who wouldn't spend a few minutes urinating.  I don't know, but I think the RIB costs about $16mil per year to run.  Everything they do has to be done in such a time consuming and intricate manner, so that it stands up to rigorous cross examination.  We should not use abbreviations without knowing what the RIB stands for.  It is the Racing Integrity Board.  Integrity is so important in this day and age.  Mr Cole's expensive costs award will be a salutary warning to all licence holders.  The Racing Integrity Board must be treated with the utmost respect and dealings with the RIB treated with the utmost good faith.

I don't agree with your penalty submissions.

The guy, regardless of his family etc, completely bullshitted his way out of giving a sample on the morning in question. There is only one reason why he didnt want to give a sample-he'd been using either cocaine or meth and knew any sample would be positive to one of them.

If you get stopped by the cops and refuse a breath test, or refuse to later give blood, you get charged with a substantive offence and your penalty ( as far as I'm aware ) is based as if you had a higher blood/alcohol level than allowed.

Therefore Mr Cole should be-and I believe will be-disqualified from holding any licence for a period. 6 months is my guess.